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(03-21-2025, 05:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-21-2025, 04:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]The issue is that the left rarely makes sense.

You're deranged, that's why.  Both the left and the right usually have an internal logic or a comprehensible self interest behind what they say.  If you think that's not true, you're deranged regarding politics.

You're simply making excuses for the behavior of the left.  What "internal logic" supports the vandalism/destruction of a vehicle owned by a complete stranger (whose political views may ironically be aligned with your own)?
(03-25-2025, 03:20 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-21-2025, 05:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You're deranged, that's why.  Both the left and the right usually have an internal logic or a comprehensible self interest behind what they say.  If you think that's not true, you're deranged regarding politics.

You're simply making excuses for the behavior of the left.  What "internal logic" supports the vandalism/destruction of a vehicle owned by a complete stranger (whose political views may ironically be aligned with your own)?

I look at what people do. So far The repubs have done what they campaigned on. The dems? well they are quickly establishing themselves as :
The party of Waste
The party of Fraud
The party of Abuse
The party of Intolerance
The party of of the closed mind
The party of Discrimination
The party of Violence
The party of Hate.
The party of criminals
The party of Domestic Terrorism
One would think these [BLEEP] have more important things to do
(03-25-2025, 03:20 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-21-2025, 05:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You're deranged, that's why.  Both the left and the right usually have an internal logic or a comprehensible self interest behind what they say.  If you think that's not true, you're deranged regarding politics.

You're simply making excuses for the behavior of the left.  What "internal logic" supports the vandalism/destruction of a vehicle owned by a complete stranger (whose political views may ironically be aligned with your own)?

What makes you so sure an idiot who destroys a Tesla is "left"?  What if I tried to make you answer for the behavior of Warren Jeffs? You'd say, "that's not fair, he doesn't represent my side."  Great.  People who burn Teslas have nothing to do with the point I'm making either.  I'm talking only about elected officials, appointed officials, prominent lobbyists, prominent pundits.  I'm not talking about arsonists.
(03-25-2025, 10:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2025, 03:20 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]You're simply making excuses for the behavior of the left.  What "internal logic" supports the vandalism/destruction of a vehicle owned by a complete stranger (whose political views may ironically be aligned with your own)?

What makes you so sure an idiot who destroys a Tesla is "left"?  What if I tried to make you answer for the behavior of Warren Jeffs? You'd say, "that's not fair, he doesn't represent my side."  Great.  People who burn Teslas have nothing to do with the point I'm making either.  I'm talking only about elected officials, appointed officials, prominent lobbyists, prominent pundits.  I'm not talking about arsonists.

Oh my...lol.
(03-26-2025, 10:16 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2025, 10:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What makes you so sure an idiot who destroys a Tesla is "left"?  What if I tried to make you answer for the behavior of Warren Jeffs? You'd say, "that's not fair, he doesn't represent my side."  Great.  People who burn Teslas have nothing to do with the point I'm making either.  I'm talking only about elected officials, appointed officials, prominent lobbyists, prominent pundits.  I'm not talking about arsonists.

Oh my...lol.

agreed, he has been wrong so much lately he doesn't remember how it feels to be right...

The party of Waste
The party of Fraud
The party of Abuse
The party of Intolerance
The party of of the closed mind
The party of Discrimination
The party of Violence
The party of Hate.
The party of criminals
The party of Domestic Terrorism
His last name of Pounder will go over well in prison. 

https://youtu.be/-xGCE3Pw04w?si=1s5_hGM6NtqxaqrN
(03-27-2025, 06:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]His last name of Pounder will go over well in prison. 

https://youtu.be/-xGCE3Pw04w?si=1s5_hGM6NtqxaqrN

A domestic terrorist.
(03-25-2025, 10:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2025, 03:20 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]You're simply making excuses for the behavior of the left.  What "internal logic" supports the vandalism/destruction of a vehicle owned by a complete stranger (whose political views may ironically be aligned with your own)?

What makes you so sure an idiot who destroys a Tesla is "left"?  What if I tried to make you answer for the behavior of Warren Jeffs? You'd say, "that's not fair, he doesn't represent my side."  Great.  People who burn Teslas have nothing to do with the point I'm making either.  I'm talking only about elected officials, appointed officials, prominent lobbyists, prominent pundits.  I'm not talking about arsonists.

You're so far down the TDS rabbit hole you can't see daylight (or get the news apparently).  Much of this wanton aggression is accompanied by written attacks on Musk and/or Trump.

Check out the link in Biscuit's post.  https://youtu.be/-xGCE3Pw04w?si=1s5_hGM6NtqxaqrN
(03-27-2025, 06:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]His last name of Pounder will go over well in prison. 

https://youtu.be/-xGCE3Pw04w?si=1s5_hGM6NtqxaqrN

Maybe him and Pounder can be a couple in prison. 

Man arrested in Molotov cocktail attack at Las Vegas Tesla shop also facing federal charges | Fox News
(03-27-2025, 11:29 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2025, 10:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What makes you so sure an idiot who destroys a Tesla is "left"?  What if I tried to make you answer for the behavior of Warren Jeffs? You'd say, "that's not fair, he doesn't represent my side."  Great.  People who burn Teslas have nothing to do with the point I'm making either.  I'm talking only about elected officials, appointed officials, prominent lobbyists, prominent pundits.  I'm not talking about arsonists.

You're so far down the TDS rabbit hole you can't see daylight (or get the news apparently).  Much of this wanton aggression is accompanied by written attacks on Musk and/or Trump.

Check out the link in Biscuit's post.  https://youtu.be/-xGCE3Pw04w?si=1s5_hGM6NtqxaqrN

You can hate Musk or Trump without being a lefty or a liberal or a Democrat.
(03-28-2025, 07:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-27-2025, 11:29 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]You're so far down the TDS rabbit hole you can't see daylight (or get the news apparently).  Much of this wanton aggression is accompanied by written attacks on Musk and/or Trump.

Check out the link in Biscuit's post.  https://youtu.be/-xGCE3Pw04w?si=1s5_hGM6NtqxaqrN

You can hate Musk or Trump without being a lefty or a liberal or a Democrat.

You’re really reaching, Mike.
(03-28-2025, 07:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-27-2025, 11:29 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]You're so far down the TDS rabbit hole you can't see daylight (or get the news apparently).  Much of this wanton aggression is accompanied by written attacks on Musk and/or Trump.

Check out the link in Biscuit's post.  https://youtu.be/-xGCE3Pw04w?si=1s5_hGM6NtqxaqrN

You can hate Musk or Trump without being a lefty or a liberal or a Democrat.

Sure, but only those 3 categories are engaged in violence against them. You, for instance, clearly hate them but you aren't out there keying cars. Weeping into your Kamala Harris barbie doll's hair, sure, but nothing overtly violent.
I wasn't going to say this but there's even an internal logic even to people who burn Teslas.
They want to affect Elon's bottom line by making his product uninsurable.
They consider the individual Tesla owners as permissible collateral damage while they rampage, and they consider it unlikely that they will be caught.
It's not right, and it's not ethical, but it has an internal logic, so it's not deranged. I'm not defending it but I am saying it's not mental illness.
(03-28-2025, 09:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I wasn't going to say this but there's even an internal logic even to people who burn Teslas.
They want to affect Elon's bottom line by making his product uninsurable. 
They consider the individual Tesla owners as permissible collateral damage while they rampage, and they consider it unlikely that they will be caught.
It's not right, and it's not ethical, but it has an internal logic, so it's not deranged.  I'm not defending it but I am saying it's not mental illness.

We can agree on this (no do not faint...lol) The issue is they could actually increasing his sales. The insurance companies may replace with another Tesla creating more demand. I know a few Tesla owners that have earlier models that would do this given the chance as they like them. Bottom line the people doing the damage are committing crimes and therefore criminals. Once caught if it is a felony they will lose their vote and that to me is a positive. These people make dumb decisions and maybe it is good they can no longer vote. They cannot spook insurance companies off providing insurance as they are caught and placed behind bars the occurrences will decline. The early adopters of this tactic will pay quite a price.  (their freedom)
It's mental illness to use violence in an attempt to devalue some dude you don't know's company. It's also mental illness to attempt to deflect that it's mental illness.
(03-28-2025, 10:29 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It's mental illness to use violence in an attempt to devalue some dude you don't know's company. It's also mental illness to attempt to deflect that it's mental illness.

Who are you calling mentally ill?

https://thepostmillennial.com/authoritie...p-in-salem

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(03-25-2025, 10:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What makes you so sure an idiot who destroys a Tesla is "left"?  What if I tried to make you answer for the behavior of Warren Jeffs? You'd say, "that's not fair, he doesn't represent my side."  Great.  People who burn Teslas have nothing to do with the point I'm making either.  I'm talking only about elected officials, appointed officials, prominent lobbyists, prominent pundits.  I'm not talking about arsonists.

(03-28-2025, 07:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You can hate Musk or Trump without being a lefty or a liberal or a Democrat.

(03-28-2025, 09:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I wasn't going to say this but there's even an internal logic even to people who burn Teslas.
They want to affect Elon's bottom line by making his product uninsurable. 
They consider the individual Tesla owners as permissible collateral damage while they rampage, and they consider it unlikely that they will be caught.
It's not right, and it's not ethical, but it has an internal logic, so it's not deranged.  I'm not defending it but I am saying it's not mental illness.

First you say it's impossible to know even know the political affiliation of whoever is doing it, yet somehow you claim to know their internal logic, justification and motives.  Laughing


P.S.  Since Trump has an internal logic to Greenland, Canada and the Panama Canal, are you finally willing to admit that he's not deranged?
And yet another mentally sound person of undetermined partisanship caught keying a Tesla. 

Did I do that right, Mike?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/vandal...r-AA1BQ0YJ
(03-28-2025, 12:27 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2025, 10:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]What makes you so sure an idiot who destroys a Tesla is "left"?  What if I tried to make you answer for the behavior of Warren Jeffs? You'd say, "that's not fair, he doesn't represent my side."  Great.  People who burn Teslas have nothing to do with the point I'm making either.  I'm talking only about elected officials, appointed officials, prominent lobbyists, prominent pundits.  I'm not talking about arsonists.

(03-28-2025, 07:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You can hate Musk or Trump without being a lefty or a liberal or a Democrat.

(03-28-2025, 09:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I wasn't going to say this but there's even an internal logic even to people who burn Teslas.
They want to affect Elon's bottom line by making his product uninsurable. 
They consider the individual Tesla owners as permissible collateral damage while they rampage, and they consider it unlikely that they will be caught.
It's not right, and it's not ethical, but it has an internal logic, so it's not deranged.  I'm not defending it but I am saying it's not mental illness.

First you say it's impossible to know even know the political affiliation of whoever is doing it, yet somehow you claim to know their internal logic, justification and motives.  Laughing


P.S.  Since Trump has an internal logic to Greenland, Canada and the Panama Canal, are you finally willing to admit that he's not deranged?

Someone burning a Tesla today clearly hates Elon. But that doesn't mean they are Democrats or leftists. They could be anarchists or communists or foreign terrorists.

And I never said Trump was deranged.

We all actually agree about Trump's personality around here. We all say he's a shallow, stubborn narcissist who doesn't understand most issues deeply, although he's very skilled at showmanship and relatability.

We just disagree about if it's good to have such a man as President.
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