Quote:So what are your step dad's reasons for being a "level headed" Trump supporter. The way you talk, there is no such thing...
He's crazy, don't get me wrong. Lol...
But he's at least conceded that trump is stupid for keeping up this argument with the Khan family.
He also made the the point that trump's wealth is mainly in intangible assets... I think his overclaims on his wealth are a big deal... He thinks that most of these high end billionaires have assets tied in non-liquid assets, so he doesn't think this issue is that important.
I push him on the racist and bigoted issue, but just like all you guys, he's not willing to see that issue as important... But, I find him level headed because at least he'll concede on obvious points that some will try to defend... This khan issue, for one, is an obvious misstep... To try and ignore and deflect it is dumb... Just like the plagiarism issue, you concede the issue and move on. You don't continue to stoke the news cycle.... That's politics 101. If you have a loss, you lessen it and move on to the next skirmish... It's also basic chess gameplay as well...
Quote:Trump has only said it, Obama has done it.
I can't wait to vote for Obama again in November!!!!! :-)
Quote:And after all that, his ankles are still thin.
Don't know. Haven't been checking them out.
Khan's hands have been dirty for decades. He was a Henry Kissinger stooge in the 70's when they conspired to overthrow the government of Pakistan.
Quote:So is America great or not?
This guy seems to have missed the point however about what Mr Khan was saying.
Absolutely America is great, America however is great inspite not because of our government,it is the people that make this nation great.
Quote:I can't wait to vote for Obama again in November!!!!! :-)
But Jimmy Carter banned Muslims too! I predict a serious conflict on your write-in ballot.
Quote:But Jimmy Carter banned Muslims too! I predict a serious conflict on your write-in ballot.
(Insert Picard face palm picture here)
Quote:And since the parents of the slain Muslim American soldier are both US citizens, his proposed banning of FOREIGN Muslims until the vetting process has been perfected has nothing to do with them.
They are immigrants. Trump is saying they shouldn't have people like them in the country. In turn their son would never have served for America because they would never have been allowed in.
Quote:Absolutely America is great, America however is great inspite not because of our government,it is the people that make this nation great.
Even the clearly racist ones?
Quote:Khizr Khan claims he came to the U.S. in 1980 "with empty pockets". How did he immediately attend Harvard Law School?
Khizr Khan claims his son was awarded a Gold Star. This is not true. He was issued a posthumous Bronze Star and a Purple Heart.
Khizr Khan claims the U.S. Constitution provides foreign non-citizens "equal protection under the law". This is not true.
According to Capt. Humayun Khan's Army obituary, “His stint (in Iraq) was up last month, but because of the Army's efforts to stem its manpower losses, he was assigned to Iraq indefinitely.” So, Blame George Bush or Donald Rumsfeld for his death if you have to blame someone.
Capt. Humayun Khan was stationed at Baquba Air Base. Baquba had a huge arsenal of aerial bombs, which included large cannister sprayers of VX gas shipped from Houston, Texas after the 1st Gulf War. The massive stockpile of chemical weapons at Baquba were discovered by US National Guardsmen but their find was covered up by the Bush administration as it would prove that any WMDs used as the pretext for the invasion of Iraq were originally supplied by the USA under President George Bush, Senior.
The captain as an ordnance officer in Baquba was privy to the actual supplies of American WMDs sent to Saddam Hussien. The fact that he did not report on the presence of Rumfeld’s nerve gas in Iraq was in gross violation of duty under the U.S. Constitution.
I thought this was common knowledge when we invaded Iraq, of course they had weapons, we gave them to the Iraqis, they even used the weapons on us in the first Gulf War. Doesn't mean we should have gone back tho. That was a revenege hit if I ever saw one. Oh Osama hit the trade center, lets get Iraq, cause Osamas hiding in Afghanistan (and Iran)!
My problem with trump supporters is that it has become frighteningly close to a cult of personality at this point. some of you guys will go to any length to defend some of the most indefensible statements. At least admit the guy is out of line at times.
Quote:Absolutely America is great, America however is great inspite not because of our government,it is the people that make this nation great.
Without that boogieman government we wouldn't even be a part of America right now and who knows if slavery would have ever been abolished here.
Quote:My problem with trump supporters is that it has become frighteningly close to a cult of personality at this point. some of you guys will go to any length to defend some of the most indefensible statements. At least admit the guy is out of line at times.
Why? Trump hasn't said much that I would view as "out of line", especially not over this Khan crap. Just because your end of the political spectrum or personal belief may perceive certain rhetoric or policy positions as "out of line" doesn't mean everyone else does. I love the fact that he talks (bad word) about progressive talking points, "heroes", policies, and dignitaries. This is how he won more primary votes than any other candidate in Republican history while running through 16 competitors. Instead of acting like Romney and being "above the fray" (and losing horribly as a result) he punches back against the DNC-controlled corrupt media and gets his constituency fired up.
The only thing I think he overstepped his bounds on was on the FBI/Apple iPhone investigation, and that was months ago and fairly minuscule. Other than that, I agree with his policies on immigration, trade, taxes, foreign policy, and national security.
Quote:My problem with trump supporters is that it has become frighteningly close to a cult of personality at this point. some of you guys will go to any length to defend some of the most indefensible statements. At least admit the guy is out of line at times.
I think most Trump supporters recognize the man's flaws. They also recognize a Hillary victory would likely be the end of conservative politics in America. She would continue Obama's policies of completely unregulated illegal immigration on the southern border and the importation of thousands of violent jihadists. She is beholden to the most repressive regimes in the Middle East. And she has absolutely no respect for the rule of law.
Then there's the opportunity to pack the Supreme Court with 3 or 4 more progressive judges.
Bottom line, if Hillary is elected, conservatives will never win another election. They will never win another Supreme Court case. The attacks on the 1st and 2nd Amendment will be relentless.
Quote:My problem with trump supporters is that it has become frighteningly close to a cult of personality at this point. some of you guys will go to any length to defend some of the most indefensible statements. At least admit the guy is out of line at times.
Of course he's out of line at times.. But at least he's no Crooked Hillary.. At least he wants to protect this country from the influx of immigrants from terroristic countries, whereas Hillary wants to open the flood gates.. And at least Trump didn't sell weapons to Syria (which in turn gave weapons to ISIS)
Trump may be a lot of things, but he's the lesser of two evils and the more necessary.
Quote:Bottom line, if Hillary is elected, conservatives will never win another election. They will never win another Supreme Court case. The attacks on the 1st and 2nd Amendment will be relentless.
I believe this. The demographic shift, increased poverty/welfare, and ever-shrinking middle-class from continued open border policies, amnesty, imbalanced trade, and lack of assimilation will end American Conservatism as we know it. Three-to-four progressive supreme court justices would ensure that the constitution becomes a "living document" which can be shredded at-will without congressional approval. Republicans will be forced to shift their entire platform to "Democrat Light" (which they were already trying to do until Trump and to some extent Cruz came along). People who say this is an overreaction are sadly ignorant of history and the statistical reality of this future.
Quote:They are immigrants. Trump is saying they shouldn't have people like them in the country. In turn their son would never have served for America because they would never have been allowed in.
The fact that trumpettes cannot concede this fact is quite sad...
Quote:I believe this. The demographic shift, increased poverty/welfare, and ever-shrinking middle-class from continued open border policies, amnesty, imbalanced trade, and lack of assimilation will end American Conservatism as we know it. Three-to-four progressive supreme court justices would ensure that the constitution becomes a "living document" which can be shredded at-will without congressional approval. Republicans will be forced to shift their entire platform to "Democrat Light" (which they were already trying to do until Trump and to some extent Cruz came along). People who say this is an overreaction are sadly ignorant of history and the statistical reality of this future.
You're recognition of our economy is valid, and the reason republicans lost to trump is because it is republican policies that got us into this mess.
However, electing a billionaire racist that has no idea about public office is not wise. The type of your concerns you have, you had an alternative option in Bernie Sanders... someone more serious, less racist, and actually knows how to govern...
As to your last point--What supreme court rulings do you envision that will shred the constitution?