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Quote:I'm confused of your stance on this. Are you saying these attorney's opinions and advice are incorrect? You referenced Nixon releasing his. Does that make it right?


How can you discount the following advice from someone who does this for a living?


"Second, releasing the returns during an audit could cause anyone who has a grievance with you to misuse the released information, and try to intervene in the audit process, for their own personal, financial or political gain."


"Third, tax returns usually reveal business strategies that may need revision during the audit process, for which untimely disclosure could unduly hinder and harm, with third parties often the victim as much as the client.”

 

 

He chose to be a candidate.  

 

The point is, that you are trying to avoid, while making the point at the same time by illustrating the advice to Trump the individual and entity, is that the advice does not contemplate that Trump knew or should have known that his business and its dealings are NOW A MATTER OF PUBLIC CONCERN and Donald should have contemplated FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE that his concerns are or SHOULD BE SECONDARY to the voter's ability to know what his finances reveal.  

 

This  goes to the another point, which you may want to ask yourself, is that  if it came down to a decision as to something  that may have a negative effect on Trump's associates, would he put their interests in front of the American people.

Quote:I'm saying the advice is correct under ordinary circumstances, but these are extraordinary circumstances.


Trump is a candidate for POTUS.

So, you are saying circumstances dictate what is right or wrong whether they are ordinary or not? Is this the same as saying any regular government employee would be locked up right now if they did what Hillary did?


It's no secret the elite get treated differently and maybe the rules and advice don't apply in certain situations, but I just wanted to make sure that was your stance.

Quote:He chose to be a candidate.


The point is, that you are trying to avoid, while making the point at the same time by illustrating the advice to Trump the individual and entity, is that the advice does not contemplate that Trump knew or should have known that his business and its dealings are NOW A MATTER OF PUBLIC CONCERN and Donald should have contemplated FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE that his concerns are or SHOULD BE SECONDARY to the voter's ability to know what his finances reveal.


This goes to the another point, which you may want to ask yourself, is that if it came down to a decision as to something that may have a negative effect on Trump's associates, would he put their interests in front of the American people.

Does the voter truly care? I don't think they do. Is someone who is on the fence relying on tax return information to help make their decision? Maybe a small percentage, but not enough to where it matters.

I see that StoudCrowd1 has joined Badger as a Trump Apologist Senior Class.

 

Thank you for your service.

Quote:I see that StoudCrowd1 has joined Badger as a Trump Apologist Senior Class.


Thank you for your service.

You people combating the advice of qualified tax attorneys are much worse than the apologist you think I am.

Quote:Does the voter truly care? I don't think they do. Is someone who is on the fence relying on tax return information to help make their decision? Maybe a small percentage, but not enough to where it matters.

 

 

I think that if they found out that he was paying 6% federal income tax they would.

 

I think that if they found out, as expected, he was fabricating many things, they would.

 

It made a difference for Romney, and he is a much better candidate then donald.

The whole COUNTRY cares. And Trump can't act like he is being singled out, or somehow should be exempt. Put up or shut up.

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I expect that you know it does and that you are being phony.

Quote:So, you are saying circumstances dictate what is right or wrong whether they are ordinary or not? Is this the same as saying any regular government employee would be locked up right now if they did what Hillary did?


It's no secret the elite get treated differently and maybe the rules and advice don't apply in certain situations, but I just wanted to make sure that was your stance.

 

No, it's completely different, and I suspect you understand the difference but choose to double down.

 

We aren't talking about the government treating anyone differently, we are talking about the difference between an ordinary citizen heeding the advice of an attorney and a candidate for POTUS heeding the advice of an attorney.

Quote:I expect that you know it does and that you are being phony.

The irony we're seeing here is these Trump apologists are the type who will criticize ordinary citizens for letting their attorney pick apart charges made against them, or call lawyers sleazy scumbags who will do anything to win a case, but applaud Trump for hiding potentially damaging information behind a lawyer's advice.

Quote:The irony we're seeing here is these Trump apologists are the type who will criticize ordinary citizens for letting their attorney pick apart charges made against them, or call lawyers sleazy scumbags who will do anything to win a case, but applaud Trump for hiding potentially damaging information behind a lawyer's advice.

 

i dont know what it is people think they are going to find... anyway, there is no way it would amount up to the massive failures that Hillary has participated in plain sight.

 

what Trump knows and should be obvious, main stream news is bought and paid for by globalists.  no matter what he does, they will try to paint him as the worst man to ever walk the earth. they will find something very small and insignificant in his taxes and make it out to be something huge.  they have an agenda. letting facts be the basis of any opinion is not what these people do.

Quote:i dont know what it is people think they are going to find... anyway, there is no way it would amount up to the massive failures that Hillary has participated in plain sight.


what Trump knows and should be obvious, main stream news is bought and paid for by globalists. no matter what he does, they will try to paint him as the worst man to ever walk the earth. they will find something very small and insignificant in his taxes and make it out to be something huge. they have an agenda. letting facts be the basis of any opinion is not what these people do.

So, in other words, the people and voters are too stupid in your view to decide for themselves so he should just hide the information.


Got it.

Quote:i dont know what it is people think they are going to find... anyway, there is no way it would amount up to the massive failures that Hillary has participated in plain sight.

 

what Trump knows and should be obvious, main stream news is bought and paid for by globalists.  no matter what he does, they will try to paint him as the worst man to ever walk the earth. they will find something very small and insignificant in his taxes and make it out to be something huge.  they have an agenda. letting facts be the basis of any opinion is not what these people do.

 

Despite how certain news sources are believed to be biased, they have revealed enough smoke concerning Trump to believe there is a fire somewhere. He could douse many fires quickly by simply opening up his books...unless there is indeed something to hide.

Quote:So, in other words, the people and voters are too stupid in your view to decide for themselves so he should just hide the information.


Got it.

 

We      have     Trump     and     Hillary     as     candidates.

Quote:So, in other words, the people and voters are too stupid in your view to decide for themselves so he should just hide the information.


Got it.

 

that's an interesting translation of what i said.

 

the point is he stands nothing to gain from making his tax returns public

Quote:Despite how certain news sources are believed to be biased, they have revealed enough smoke concerning Trump to believe there is a fire somewhere. He could douse many fires quickly by simply opening up his books...unless there is indeed something to hide.

 

i dont know what fires you are referring to.  ive seen nothing that is anywhere near damning enough to sway voters' opinions.  there is nothing he can say or do to make somebody like you and others calling for his returns to vote his way.

 

like i said, there is no helping you. ship sailed.

The audit is a smoke screen.

 

Trump is hiding 3 things:

 

1.  He doesn't earn as much as he says.

 

 

2.  He's completely uncharitable.

 

 

3. For a guy pulling in (allegedly) HUUUUUGGGEEE amounts of dough, he doesn't pay much in taxes.

As much as there is little defense on Hillarys emails, except for the fact its over with, the 2 million dollar investigation is complete..there are still questions that Id like answered.

By the same token, how can anyone defend and make excuses for a guy who is running for POTUS and wont release his tax returns? A guy who was deep in the birther movement, busted Romneys chops and now plays dumb on his taxes.

Clearly theres an issue. One being ..his tax evasions, his claim of his generosity or many others. Maybe its because he is a phony? 

Release them, prove people wrong and theyll shut up. In the meantime, remain stubborn and leave the perception of the fact that youre full of piss. 

He does lead in one category big league..hypocrisy

As soon as ...you wont believe what my people found...in the saga of who was born and where..then he'll have time to release his taxes. Unless he hasnt paid in a while and is just starting to catch up now that he's big league

 

So, until he does? Rumors, innuendos and assumptions will fly...and theres only one way to stop that. 

 

But many will still stay the course and make excuses. He hit it on the head when he stated that he could shoot someone in the middle of NY and still wouldnt lose a vote. Speaks volumes of those followers.