Quote:The biggest reason you run it a fourth time is there is a chance your prized, second year qb just might throw another pick 6, which would be worse than turning the ball over on downs at the goalline.
Not seeing this logic at all.
Quote:I'm not saying it was right or wrong, but it sure isn't the first time I've seen a coach do it using the same sort of logic.
I'll say it....
It was wrong lol
Toby x 4 shouldn't be in anyone's playbook.
Throw the rock, at least once in those 4 tries.....
Quote:The biggest reason you run it a fourth time is there is a chance your prized, second year qb just might throw another pick 6, which would be worse than turning the ball over on downs at the goalline.
Well... we should run it every down then, cuz Bortles loves him some pick 6s.
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Kane and Rico. I'm not throwing any shade Bortles way. I think he is on his way to being fantastic. However, the lowest risk option in this situation is to run the ball. Maybe bortles throws a touchdown. Still, in a tight game like that one, it's best to know when to be conservative and when to be aggressive. In hindsight, though he failed to score, it was the right decision.
The odds didn't suddenly get worse on that 4th play.
To use a poker example, it's like saying you shouldn't raise on pocket aces because you didn't win the hand the last 3 times you were delt them.
To me, the failure to get one measley yard in four tries speaks to a talent issue. I know the other side gets paid too, but you should expect to be able to move the ball 9+ inches each carry for four carries assuming equal talent across the board.
Didn't Bradley flat out say after the Toby fiasco that they ran it 4X because he wanted to team to establish an attitude running the ball?
Maybe your 6'5, 235 pound QB should get a shot at leaning forward for a yard after 3 failed tries from your backup RB? I'm not a fan of throwing from the 1 unless it's a rollout on 1st or 2nd down. To me, 3rd and 4th down should be strictly us vs them up the middle with either the QB, RB, or any FB not named Tyson Alualu. Works in madden!
Quote:Didn't Bradley flat out say after the Toby fiasco that they ran it 4X because he wanted to team to establish an attitude running the ball?
Yes, he said they wanted to put it on the Oline to come up and execute, that's why they called 4 times the same play.
Quote:I'm not saying it was right or wrong, but it sure isn't the first time I've seen a coach do it using the same sort of logic.
Coughlin did it all the time.
Quote:Didn't Bradley flat out say after the Toby fiasco that they ran it 4X because he wanted to team to establish an attitude running the ball?
He said they did it because running a ball down the throat of an opponent for a score can be demoralizing for that defense. What he failed to consider is how demoralizing the move would ultimately be for the offense when it failed.
Quote:He said they did it because running a ball down the throat of an opponent for a score can be demoralizing for that defense. What he failed to consider is how demoralizing the move would ultimately be for the offense when it failed.
Ultimately, it wasn't because we won.
Quote:Yes, he said they wanted to put it on the Oline to come up and execute, that's why they called 4 times the same play.
Well there ya go then. Thanks.
Think of it this way. That 4 run sequence was the final nail in Toby's coffin and we still won the game. Win-Win!
Quote:Think of it this way. That 4 run sequence was the final nail in Toby's coffin and we still won the game. Win-Win!
Gerhart didn't do squat while he was here, but I don't blame that series on him. There was zero blocking. Nada.
Quote:Kane and Rico. I'm not throwing any shade Bortles way. I think he is on his way to being fantastic. However, the lowest risk option in this situation is to run the ball. Maybe bortles throws a touchdown. Still, in a tight game like that one, it's best to know when to be conservative and when to be aggressive. In hindsight, though he failed to score, it was the right decision.
Risk?
You're going for it on 4th down.
An INT is essentially the same (save for a pick six) as not getting home.
I don't get it.
Quote:He said they did it because running a ball down the throat of an opponent for a score can be demoralizing for that defense. What he failed to consider is how demoralizing the move would ultimately be for the offense when it failed.
Take the ball out of your best playmakers hands 4x (Bortles) and give it to your worst playmaker. Makes sense.....Gus coaching 101.
For diety's sake people, Tyson Alualu was the LEAD TACKLER BLOCKER on those plays.
Was there anyone who thought that was a good idea???????
Quote:Risk?
You're going for it on 4th down.
An INT is essentially the same (save for a pick six) as not getting home.
I don't get it.
Didn't bortles throw a pick 6 from inside the 5 last season? I honestly can't remember. I may not be articulate enough to explain it. I was OK with what they did in that particular instance. I'm not saying this is the way it should always be.
Quote:Not seeing this logic at all.
That would be because there is no logic there to see.
Quote:Didn't bortles throw a pick 6 from inside the 5 last season? I honestly can't remember. I may not be articulate enough to explain it. I was OK with what they did in that particular instance. I'm not saying this is the way it should always be.
Who cares? You don't take the ball out of Blake's hands and give it to a RB that hasn't produced in his entire time with the team. You certainly don't do it 4 times in a row.