Quote:I don't know why you call them "media driven polls." The pollsters poll people, and it turns out, Kasich has by far the best chance of winning a general election, and Trump has the worst chance of winning a general election.
They're usually biased and its obvious. That's why you saw Bernie pull off the big "upset".
Sorry for thinking the candidate who wins the election should also win the nomination. I mean, it's not like that's common sense or anything. This is the REPUBLICAN PARTY. Not the United States of America. The people do not choose what happens, the party does.
That's the rules. And those rules are changed willy nilly and require no input from the people. We as the people are just stupid and need to be ruled over anyhow. Anybody who questions this two party corrupt system needs to be silenced or at the very least ridiculed.
Quote:Sorry for thinking the candidate who wins the election should also win the nomination. I mean, it's not like that's common sense or anything. This is the REPUBLICAN PARTY. Not the United States of America. The people do not choose what happens, the party does.
That's the rules. And those rules are changed willy nilly and require no input from the people. We as the people are just stupid and need to be ruled over anyhow. Anybody who questions this two party corrupt system needs to be silenced or at the very least ridiculed.
No one has won anything and it looks like no one will, because no one is going to have a majority of the delegates.
The people have had every opportunity to choose a candidate, and they have failed. So someone will need to step in and resolve it, and that means a backroom deal, like it or not. There's no way around it.
Quote:They're usually biased and its obvious. That's why you saw Bernie pull off the big "upset".
Last election, the Republicans claimed the polls were biased, and wrong, and guess what, the polls where right.
This always happens. The candidate who is losing in the polls claims the polls are wrong, and almost always, the polls are right.
Quote:No one has won anything and it looks like no one will, because no one is going to have a majority of the delegates.
The people have had every opportunity to choose a candidate, and they have failed. So someone will need to step in and resolve it, and that means a backroom deal, like it or not. There's no way around it.
Backroom Deal States of America. I mean, that's the way it should be.
What we need is a guy like Kasich who won 143 delegates so far. Clearly that's what the people want. But either way, it's not about what the people want. It's about what the Republican Party wants. Again, that's how it should be. Why have an election?
Quote:What else can they do?
Let's just stick with blaming the people and then making a decision on their behalf... because that's the most logical way of handling it
Quote:Let's just stick with blaming the people and then making a decision on their behalf... because that's the most logical way of handling it
If the voters cannot decide, in other words, if no one candidate can get a majority, what is the alternative to the party making the decision?
What else can they do?
Quote:If the voters cannot decide, in other words, if no one candidate can get a majority, what is the alternative to the party making the decision?
What else can they do?
So they choose the guy with the least votes?
Quote:So they choose the guy with the least votes?
Choose a different party if they don't meet your needs.
Quote:Choose a different party if they don't meet your needs.
I'm not a Republican. I definitely don't support Trump. The fact is we don't have enough political parties to just say "choose a different party". I'm forced to vote Hillary, even though I think she's way too war-hawkish, because the choice is between her and a bunch of guys who I disagree with on pretty much every issue (and are too war-hawkish themselves) Only two parties stand any legitimate chance of winning the Presidential election. That needs to change. When the party selects the candidate, and don't base it on what the people want, it makes it "Agree with us, or else!"
Quote:So they choose the guy with the least votes?
To get the nomination, someone has to get a majority of the delegates. What's wrong with that?
Someone has to come up with
someone who can get a majority of the delegate votes. The party leaders have to get together and say, "If we put up so and so and put his nomination before the convention, along with all the other candidates who are still in this thing, can this so and so get a majority?"
There's no other way to do it. The party leaders have to get together and come up with a compromise candidate who can get a majority of the delegates. I don't see any other way to do it.
Quote:To get the nomination, someone has to get a majority of the delegates. What's wrong with that? Someone has to come up with someone who can get a majority of the delegate votes. The party leaders have to get together and say, "If we put up so and so and put his nomination before the convention, along with all the other candidates who are still in this thing, can this so and so get a majority?"
There's no other way to do it. The party leaders have to get together and come up with a compromise candidate who can get a majority of the delegates. I don't see any other way to do it.
I agree, what's wrong with this current system? It's currently working so well and AMAZING. There are literally no alternatives to this system. It's the way it is now because there is literally NO OTHER WAY.
Quote:I agree, what's wrong with this current system? It's currently working so well and AMAZING.
For the 18th time, what else would you do? What's the alternative? Someone has to get a majority. You can't, and shouldn't, win with a minority of the votes. Right now, Trump has a minority of the votes. He has not won. You want to hand him the nomination when most people voted against him? They have to keep voting until someone gets a majority. Even if that means introducing new candidates at the convention.
Quote:For the 18th time, what else would you do? What's the alternative? Someone has to get a majority. You can't, and shouldn't, win with a minority of the votes. Right now, Trump has a minority of the votes. He has not won. You want to hand him the nomination when most people voted against him? They have to keep voting until someone gets a majority. Even if that means introducing new candidates at the convention.
I know, there is no other way. This system literally came straight from the gods because other options dont exist.
I would love nothing more than for this election cycle to kill the two party system.
But can't disagree with the nomination process. Their party their rules.
Quote:I know, there is no other way. This system literally came straight from the gods because other options dont exist.
There is don't be a republican.
Quote:I would love nothing more than for this election cycle to kill the two party system.
But can't disagree with the nomination process. Their party their rules.
No no, their COUNTRY, their rules.
That's why they call it UCA. United Conventions of America.
Quote:No no, their COUNTRY, their rules.
That's why they call it UCA. United Conventions of America.
Do you get worked up over who the Green Party nominated?
Quote:Do you get worked up over who the Green Party nominated?
No, I only get worked up when people in this country think their vote should matter. If there are 8 candidates to choose from in a primary, one of the guys must obliterate the competition or else 1200 people out of 300,000,000 have to decide what happens. There's no other way.
Quote:To get the nomination, someone has to get a majority of the delegates. What's wrong with that? Someone has to come up with someone who can get a majority of the delegate votes. The party leaders have to get together and say, "If we put up so and so and put his nomination before the convention, along with all the other candidates who are still in this thing, can this so and so get a majority?"
There's no other way to do it. The party leaders have to get together and come up with a compromise candidate who can get a majority of the delegates. I don't see any other way to do it.
The problem is that the two parties have too much control. I'm not so sure what's so hard to see about that. It doesn't matter who the people think best represent them. It matters who the party thinks represent them.