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Also, I feel like the firing of our DC is 100% a scapegoat, especially because Manusky was running Pagano's defense.

Welcome to our world.

Grigson might be the worst GM in football.


If it wasn't for Luck falling into his lap he would probably be out of a job by now.


I'm happy for Pagano and ecstatic they kept Grigson as GM.

Quote:The clot warrior just got OWNED.

 

 

Quote:Oddly enough we haven't heard from cw yet. He must have coincidentally just had a really busy day....

 

 

Quote:Just flipping his last few burgers and will be here shortly surely...

 

 

Quote:Idk if he's a burger flipper or what. I mean good for him being employed regardless.


I think he's probably just a little embarrassed that someone proved that not only he's an idiot, but he's clearly full of crap.


Don't worry cw, it happens, more often than not for you clot fans.

 

Oh wow, you guys are really obsessed with me. I've been behind on catching your guys posts. I DO NOT visit this website everyday. Sorry for that.

 

Also, for the record I have never flipped a burger, not that that matters... Don't know why you guys insist on trying to take personal attacks over a football forum, but whatever.

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Nope, and I 100% felt that way. However, like I mentioned I'm not thrilled with the re-signing & retaining of both, BUT LIKE I SAID the roster did hold up very well this year and after thinking about it, it would be very crummy to fire Pagano after he went 8-8 with 5 QBs. Some teams can't even get to .500 with their starting QB playing all year.

 

So, in conclusion, I'm OK either way this went. My ONE main issue with Pagano, which I've mentioned 1000 times is the random blow outs every year. He needs to be more consistent. Also, I feel like the firing of our DC is 100% a scapegoat, especially because Manusky was running Pagano's defense.

To be clear, at the time you responded to me, the Colts had not yet played 5 QBs in a season.  It was Luck, 40 year old SuperDave Os...errr...Hasselbeck, then in spot duty in the blowout Clipboard Jesus.  Suppose Hasselbeck returned and finished out the regular season, Morris and Freeman never saw the field, and the Colts finished with the exact same record.  Would you have been in favor of firing Pagano and Grigson then?  Does the 4th and 5th QB thing lose any persuasiveness when you consider that the last game of the season was against a Titans team that was in contention for the first overall pick itself playing with at least a 3rd QB and an interim coach by the end of the game?

 

If your ONE main issue with Pagano was the random blowouts, how does the QB thing negate that? 

 

For that matter, what about Grigson?  If you were ready to fire him three weeks ago, what about the 5 QB thing changed your mind about him?  You say the roster held up, but it was the same roster mid December when you wanted him gone.

Quote:To be clear, at the time you responded to me, the Colts had not yet played 5 QBs in a season.  It was Luck, 40 year old SuperDave Os...errr...Hasselbeck, then in spot duty in the blowout Clipboard Jesus.  Suppose Hasselbeck returned and finished out the regular season, Morris and Freeman never saw the field, and the Colts finished with the exact same record.  Would you have been in favor of firing Pagano and Grigson then?  Does the 4th and 5th QB thing lose any persuasiveness when you consider that the last game of the season was against a Titans team that was in contention for the first overall pick itself playing with at least a 3rd QB and an interim coach by the end of the game?

 

If your ONE main issue with Pagano was the random blowouts, how does the QB thing negate that? 

 

For that matter, what about Grigson?  If you were ready to fire him three weeks ago, what about the 5 QB thing changed your mind about him?  You say the roster held up, but it was the same roster mid December when you wanted him gone.

twist it how he will, cw is a joke with 0 credibility. Almost no point in talking to him besides the pleasure of making him look like what he is.

Quote:To be clear, at the time you responded to me, the Colts had not yet played 5 QBs in a season.  It was Luck, 40 year old SuperDave Os...errr...Hasselbeck, then in spot duty in the blowout Clipboard Jesus.  Suppose Hasselbeck returned and finished out the regular season, Morris and Freeman never saw the field, and the Colts finished with the exact same record.  Would you have been in favor of firing Pagano and Grigson then?  Does the 4th and 5th QB thing lose any persuasiveness when you consider that the last game of the season was against a Titans team that was in contention for the first overall pick itself playing with at least a 3rd QB and an interim coach by the end of the game?

 

If your ONE main issue with Pagano was the random blowouts, how does the QB thing negate that? 

 

For that matter, what about Grigson?  If you were ready to fire him three weeks ago, what about the 5 QB thing changed your mind about him?  You say the roster held up, but it was the same roster mid December when you wanted him gone.

No that wouldn't change my mind, any time you lose your starting QB for more than half the season and you're still in the playoff picture going into the last week (no matter how crappy your division is)... Well you're doing something right IMO. It's just even more so with FIVE QBs.


Also, that's my MAIN issue with Pagano. The blowouts = being unprepared. It's Pagano's job to make sure the team is prepared every single game. That's what a head coach does.


And with Grigson I've stated many times that I'd be fine either way but I was leaning towards firing him. So think of it as 60% I wanted him fired 40% I'd be fine with him staying. I still feel this way.


 

Quote:twist it how he will, cw is a joke with 0 credibility. Almost no point in talking to him besides the pleasure of making him look like what he is.

I'm the joke, yet you respond to every single post/thread I'm in. Go ahead continue to follow me around, you're the one with 0 credibility. I've dismantled almost any "argument" (being generous here) you've ever laid down.

 
 
 
 
Coltswarriors, on 08 Jan 2016 - 4:26 PM, said:
 


No that wouldn't change my mind, any time you lose your starting QB for more than half the season and you're still in the playoff picture going into the last week (no matter how crappy your division is)... Well you're doing something right IMO. It's just even more so with FIVE QBs.
 
Also, that's my MAIN issue with Pagano. The blowouts = being unprepared. It's Pagano's job to make sure the team is prepared every single game. That's what a head coach does.
 
And with Grigson I've stated many times that I'd be fine either way but I was leaning towards firing him. So think of it as 60% I wanted him fired 40% I'd be fine with him staying. I still feel this way.
 
 

I'm the joke, yet you respond to every single post/thread I'm in. Go ahead continue to follow me around, you're the one with 0 credibility. I've dismantled almost any "argument" (being generous here) you've ever laid down.
 
 
 


I post in a significant amount of threads regardless if you are in them or not.
 
 
 
 
 
you've never dismantled anything. You consider misinformation and your opinion as a retort to facts ans that's simply not how it works, which is one reason I consider you a joke.
 
 
 
 
 
you have been proven to be a blatant liar, as proven recently in this thread by other posters and yet you still try to twist your way out of it even though they are totally contradictory stances, which leads to your lack of credibility and accountability.
 
 
 
 
 
you also accuse me of things ive never done to try and somehow damage what would be a message board reputation, like anyone would care, but every time you do, you also fabricate those accusations.
 
 
 
 
 
now you will surely come back here and try to argue this somehow, but those are all proven facts, so anything you say is just going to be hot air.
 
 
 
 
 
feel free to come back with one of your divertive tactics to keep the focus off of you and your garbage, but again, the facts will never change.
 
 

Quote:Oh wow, you guys are really obsessed with me. I've been behind on catching your guys posts. I DO NOT visit this website everyday. Sorry for that.


Also, for the record I have never flipped a burger, not that that matters... Don't know why you guys insist on trying to take personal attacks over a football forum, but whatever.

Wouldn't call it an obsession as much as a welcome change to the excessive arguing amongst ourselves over this current dumpster fire we call a team.


Consider your presence like being asked to go to the grocery store while your in-laws are in town. You ask no questions and run for the door, and take 2 hours.

Quote:Coltswarriors, on 08 Jan 2016 - 4:26 PM, said:

 


No that wouldn't change my mind, any time you lose your starting QB for more than half the season and you're still in the playoff picture going into the last week (no matter how crappy your division is)... Well you're doing something right IMO. It's just even more so with FIVE QBs.

 

Also, that's my MAIN issue with Pagano. The blowouts = being unprepared. It's Pagano's job to make sure the team is prepared every single game. That's what a head coach does.

 

And with Grigson I've stated many times that I'd be fine either way but I was leaning towards firing him. So think of it as 60% I wanted him fired 40% I'd be fine with him staying. I still feel this way.

 

 

I'm the joke, yet you respond to every single post/thread I'm in. Go ahead continue to follow me around, you're the one with 0 credibility. I've dismantled almost any "argument" (being generous here) you've ever laid down.

 

 

 


I post in a significant amount of threads regardless if you are in them or not.

 

 

 

 

 

you've never dismantled anything. You consider misinformation and your opinion as a retort to facts ans that's simply not how it works, which is one reason I consider you a joke.

 

 

 

 

 

you have been proven to be a blatant liar, as proven recently in this thread by other posters and yet you still try to twist your way out of it even though they are totally contradictory stances, which leads to your lack of credibility and accountability.

 

 

 

 

 

you also accuse me of things ive never done to try and somehow damage what would be a message board reputation, like anyone would care, but every time you do, you also fabricate those accusations.

 

 

 

 

 

now you will surely come back here and try to argue this somehow, but those are all proven facts, so anything you say is just going to be hot air.

 

 

 

 

 

feel free to come back with one of your divertive tactics to keep the focus off of you and your garbage, but again, the facts will never change.

Blatant liar? You really aren't very bright, I'm sorry. I haven't lied about anything. I changed my opinion. Lying would be denying things I've said in the past, which I haven't.


Also, I find it hilarious that you state all my facts are opinions and then later in your post you say "now you will surely come back here and try to argue this somehow, but those are all proven facts" AFTER YOUR ENTIRE POST IS FULL OF YOUR OPINIONS. You are a complete comedy show. Just stop posting, it gives me extreme 2nd hand embarrassment.

 

EDIT: I would also like to add, leave it to you to not even know how to quote someone properly. What a mess.

Quote:Blatant liar? You really aren't very bright, I'm sorry. I haven't lied about anything. I changed my opinion. Lying would be denying things I've said in the past, which I haven't.


Also, I find it hilarious that you state all my facts are opinions and then later in your post you say "now you will surely come back here and try to argue this somehow, but those are all proven facts" AFTER YOUR ENTIRE POST IS FULL OF YOUR OPINIONS. You are a complete comedy show. Just stop posting, it gives me extreme 2nd hand embarrassment.

 

EDIT: I would also like to add, leave it to you to not even know how to quote someone properly. What a mess.

sorry pal. I'm in product development for Microsoft and I just got a new mobile device with a lot of kinks to work out, which is why you might have noticed a large increase in spelling errors lately.

 

I'll relay the message to them and let them know that these bugs are simply unacceptable to the grand clotswarrior who once again uses deferrals and name calling to try and shift the focus from the issues.

 

it's a little different when you say "I never said that." Vs "I changed my opinion." But you keep doing you buddy. A lot of promise for the clots next season so dont let my embarrassing posts get you down.

Quote:This is a good move on their part. Not fair to can Pagano after a season like this where Luck was pretty much out and he hadn't lost the players. Grigson is the one who needs to go.

Quote:Oh wow, you guys are really obsessed with me. I've been behind on catching your guys posts. I DO NOT visit this website everyday. Sorry for that.

 

Also, for the record I have never flipped a burger, not that that matters... Don't know why you guys insist on trying to take personal attacks over a football forum, but whatever.

 

Because you remind them of a burger flipper who could never admit they were wrong, and always spun arguments (both others and his own, just as you're known for.)

 

Remember, the crime is never perceived as negatively as the coverup.

Quote:No that wouldn't change my mind, any time you lose your starting QB for more than half the season and you're still in the playoff picture going into the last week (no matter how crappy your division is)... Well you're doing something right IMO. It's just even more so with FIVE QBs.


Also, that's my MAIN issue with Pagano. The blowouts = being unprepared. It's Pagano's job to make sure the team is prepared every single game. That's what a head coach does.


And with Grigson I've stated many times that I'd be fine either way but I was leaning towards firing him. So think of it as 60% I wanted him fired 40% I'd be fine with him staying. I still feel this way.

 

But even after the loss to us, you guys were still in the playoff picture.

 

Is it possible that your response to me was an emotional one, borne in the aftermath of the blowout loss to us? That's how it seems to me considering had you not gone through 5 QBs, your view would not have changed.  Either that, or you were uncomfortable with the idea of not holding Pagano and Grigson responsible when asked directly about it.