Quote:199 vs 195
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There's a 14 pound difference looking at the combine results.
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It's being floated around that VH3 may not post the ideal 40 time so that could play a big factor in deciding which guy will be the first to come off the board.
Quote:One problem: he's measured in small at the NFL scouting combine. He measured in at 5'10 4/8" and 204 lbs., a little bigger than the 5'10 3/8" and 190 lbs. of Mackensie Alexander. Those are less than ideal sizes for top ten cornerbacks: no cornerback has been picked at 5'10" or smaller in the top ten since at least 2000, with Leodis McKelvin as the 11th overall pick in 2008 coming closest. Height isn't an automatic disqualifier, but Hargreaves is also expected to run relatively slowly in the 40-yard dash, which would further eliminate him from the conversation.
That's especially true given the fact that Hargreaves' tape isn't quite dominant. It's good, to be sure, and he looks like he'll be a solid NFL cornerback. But that is not what NFL teams are looking to find in the top ten of any draft.
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Quote:There's a 14 pound difference looking at the combine results.
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Surely you're aware that combine weights are performance weights, and not playing weights. That many players drop weight in hopes to improve their scores?
Right?
What's Bosa at for the combine vs his playing weight?
We can play this petty exercise for nearly anyone.
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Alexander wont even run the 40
http://www.news-press.com/story/sports/2.../80860648/
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Homers, exit stage left. For the love of objectivity...
Lot of drunk posting tonight, it would seem. A nerve has certainly been touched.
Quote:Surely you're aware that combine weights are performance weights, and not playing weights. That many players drop weight in hopes to improve their scores?
Right?
What's Bosa at for the combine vs his playing weight?
We can play this petty exercise for nearly anyone.
It's not really a big deal to me Pirk. He's pretty average in weight when compared to corners across the league. Alexander plays bigger than his size anyway plus he has the frame to add more weight if needed.
Quote:Surely you're aware that combine weights are performance weights, and not playing weights. That many players drop weight in hopes to improve their scores?
Right?
What's Bosa at for the combine vs his playing weight?
We can play this petty exercise for nearly anyone.
Makes you really wonder where Alexander will be at once he loses his weight after the combine then 180 185?
Quote:Insightful.
Its okay to be wrong,we won't think any less of you for it.
Quote:Alexander wont even run the 40
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That doesn't come as a surprise since he's still injured.
Quote:That doesn't come as a surprise since he's still injured.
Agree, wouldnt risk it. He should run at his pro day hopefully though if he thinks he can run a good time
Quote:It's not really a big deal to me Pirk. He's pretty average in weight when compared to corners across the league. Alexander plays bigger than his size anyway plus he has the frame to add more weight if needed.
That's the point, or at least, the extension of it. We certainly aren't talking Fernando Bryant here.
My concern with Hargreaves isn't unlike the same I have with Fuller. It's also why I like a better value later in Fuller, and see zero reason in going so high with Hargreaves.
Quote:Its okay to be wrong,we won't think any less of you for it.
yeah, he needs to lay off the burbon
Quote:That's the point, or at least, the extension of it. We certainly aren't talking Fernando Bryant here.
My concern with Hargreaves isn't unlike the same I have with Fuller. It's also why I like a better value later in Fuller, and see zero reason in going so high with Hargreaves.
I would take Jack and Bosa over Hargreaves.
Quote:Much like Treadwell at WR, when you're the cream of the crop there's no need. Only those who need to prove they belong at the top. Like others...
Alexander simply isn't running because he pulled his hamstring badly in the national championship game.