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Quote:ok, you can look at one or 2 games and ignore the rest of his great college career. Ill look at his career, physical traits, and combine. You would think Tom Brady was horrible if you seen the game where he had 4 picks against the Chiefs 2 years ago before he went on to win the SB
If Rudock and Chesson (a very average duo) can expose VH3 the way they did, why won't duos like Carr/Cooper be able to? Are Rudock/Chesson that good?
Quote:If Rudock and Chesson (a very average duo) can expose VH3 the way they did, why won't duos like Carr/Cooper be able to? Are Rudock/Chesson that good?
I know he had some nagging injuries towards the end of the season. That could of been a factor, but the guy dont make excuses.
People have bad games. If someone has high level traits and their weaknesses can be coached then that's what is important.
Quote:People have bad games. If someone has high level traits and their weaknesses can be coached then that's what is important.
it happens to the best of em
It definitely does and I think VH3 is the best DB prospect in this draft. He has great hips and stays with his guy which is really what you want to see.
Quote:It definitely does and I think VH3 is the best DB prospect in this draft. He has great hips and stays with his guy which is really what you want to see.
on top of that he has great ball skills for a corner
Quote:It definitely does and I think VH3 is the best DB prospect in this draft. He has great hips and stays with his guy which is really what you want to see.
Vh3 is definitely being undervalued.
Corner is the premium position over safety in the NFL.
And it's been said, the talent with vh3 is obvious.
Wouldn't even be shocked if we took vh3 ahead of Ramsey.
As I've said many times, the biggest worry is indeed that VH3 was so often dealing with nagging injuries. I can't even remember how many times he had to leave for a couple series or a quarter. Never anything major, but always something.
I can't imagine that gets better facing bigger/stronger/faster players every snap.
It definitely depends on the injuries. Having better conditioning, better strength training, a nutritionist, etc. can help in that regard.
Quote:Vh3 is definitely being undervalued.
Corner is the premium position over safety in the NFL.
And it's been said, the talent with vh3 is obvious.
Wouldn't even be shocked if we took vh3 ahead of Ramsey.
I'd be happy with either one. I'd ideally want Jack or Bosa, but I'll "settle" on a DB/S if they are the best player on our board.
Quote:It definitely does and I think VH3 is the best DB prospect in this draft. He has great hips and stays with his guy which is really what you want to see.
Why couldn't he stay with Chesson? It's not like Chesson is some elite WR.
Quote:I know he had some nagging injuries towards the end of the season. That could of been a factor, but the guy dont make excuses.
So you just make excuses for him instead?
I just love the state of Florida homerism sometimes.
With Aguayo and VH3, if they didn't play in Florida, no one would be talking about them as potential Jags.
Quote:So you just make excuses for him instead?
You asked the question and I just answered it.
Quote:I just love the state of Florida homerism sometimes.
With Aguayo and VH3, if they didn't play in Florida, no one would be talking about them as potential Jags.
Cmon, you are talking about a kicker and a corner most consider the best CB in the draft. Just a little bit of a difference lol
Quote:You asked the question and I just answered it.
You didn't answer either of the two questions I asked. You deflected and made up an excuse.
1. If Rudock and Chesson (a very average duo) can expose VH3 the way they did, why won't duos like Carr/Cooper be able to?
2. Are Rudock/Chesson that good?
I made it easier for you to answer two simple questions.
Quote:I just love the state of Florida homerism sometimes.
With Aguayo and VH3, if they didn't play in Florida, no one would be talking about them as potential Jags.
The same guys were drooling over that Derrick Harvey pick a few years ago, I'm sure. There are some objective Florida fans here but flgatorsandjags isn't one of them.
Quote:You didn't answer either of the two questions I asked. You deflected and made up an excuse.
1. If Rudock and Chesson (a very average duo) can expose VH3 the way they did, why won't duos like Carr/Cooper be able to?
2. Are Rudock/Chesson that good?
I made it easier for you to answer two simple questions.
1. He had nagging injuries and had a bad game
2. No
Quote:1. He had nagging injuries and had a bad game
2. No
What nagging injury? The bowl game was 4 weeks after the final game of the season.
Does that mean he has injury concerns if he has injuries that linger that much?
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