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I think Bosa is at the top of my board at this point unless Jags are sure the injury is not long term

1. Bosa

 

2. Kelly or Joseph

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/injuryexpert'>Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/injuryexpert/status/721071449205649408' title="4:23 PM - 15 Apr 2016">9m9 minutes ago</a>

<p class="" style="font-size:16px;">Jack's meniscus repair isn't issue -- it's if knee will need more work down the line. It's a "someday problem," as one doc put it.

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<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/injuryexpert'>Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/injuryexpert/status/721071633788575744' title="4:24 PM - 15 Apr 2016">8m8 minutes ago</a>

<p class="" style="font-size:16px;">Down the line could M Jack need micro fracture or knee replacement? Sure. Lots of players with this situation will. Is it 5? 10? 25 yrs?

Maybe I should have just started a new combine recheck thread...

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<div style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert  9m9 minutes ago

<p style="font-size:16px;">Jack's meniscus repair isn't issue -- it's if knee will need more work down the line. It's a "someday problem," as one doc put it.

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Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert  8m8 minutes ago

<p style="font-size:16px;">Down the line could M Jack need micro fracture or knee replacement? Sure. Lots of players with this situation will. Is it 5? 10? 25 yrs?


 

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If it's after 5 years and he's not the same after that, then it won't be a good pick.

Quote:If it's after 5 years and he's not the same after that, then it won't be a good pick.

Considering the average career for a NFL player is 3 if you get 5 years out of him then it'll be plenty worth it. Especially if he's playing at a high level.


But as an aside I believe this entire thing is a puff piece being delivered by someone who wants Jack to fall. We're talking about a meniscus tear not an ACL tear.

Was listening to some sports talk today and they mentioned that with TENs multitude of picks, they can afford to take a flier on Smith.


Pretty scary thought.

Quote:Was listening to some sports talk today and they mentioned that with TENs multitude of picks, they can afford to take a flier on Smith.


Pretty scary thought.

im shaking in my boots

Quote:Considering the average career for a NFL player is 3 if you get 5 years out of him then it'll be plenty worth it. Especially if he's playing at a high level.


But as an aside I believe this entire thing is a puff piece being delivered by someone who wants Jack to fall. We're talking about a meniscus tear not an ACL tear.

 

I disagree with you on the first part. If you're drafting someone in the top five, you're expecting him to be a longterm fixture on your team and playing at a high level throughout most if not all of that time. These players are expected to be well above the league average. If Jack, or any player drafted at five for that matter, would last for only five seasons, it would be hard to call them a truly successful pick.

 

That said, I agree with you on your second point.

Quote:Was listening to some sports talk today and they mentioned that with TENs multitude of picks, they can afford to take a flier on Smith.


Pretty scary thought.

Or the flip side they could waste one of their extra 2nds on a guy that never returns to what he was and they lose an elite player at #1 for even less of a return. That would be great. 

Quote:I disagree with you on the first part. If you're drafting someone in the top five, you're expecting him to be a longterm fixture on your team and playing at a high level throughout most if not all of that time. These players are expected to be well above the league average. If Jack, or any player drafted at five for that matter, would last for only five seasons, it would be hard to call them a truly successful pick.


That said, I agree with you on your second point.

Do you think Boselli was a successful pick?

Quote:Do you think Boselli was a successful pick?

Boselli was one of the best ever. If they are that good then yes. If Bob Sanders was taken in the top 5 I would consider him a successful pick

Quote:Boselli was one of the best ever. If they are that good then yes. If Bob Sanders was taken in the top 5 I would consider him a successful pick

Agreed. If Tony Brackens was a top 5 pick you could add him to that list as well of successful picks.

Quote:I disagree with you on the first part. If you're drafting someone in the top five, you're expecting him to be a longterm fixture on your team and playing at a high level throughout most if not all of that time. These players are expected to be well above the league average. If Jack, or any player drafted at five for that matter, would last for only five seasons, it would be hard to call them a truly successful pick.


That said, I agree with you on your second point.

See flgatorsandjags post.

Quote:Do you think Boselli was a successful pick?

 

Yes I do, but I'd say there's a difference between someone playing at a high level and being arguably the best of all time. If Jack ends up that good, then I would say he was worth it. However, I'm not going to predict him to be a Hall of Famer, let alone the best to ever play the position.

Quote:Yes I do, but I'd say there's a difference between someone playing at a high level and being arguably the best of all time. If Jack ends up that good, then I would say he was worth it. However, I'm not going to predict him to be a Hall of Famer, let alone the best to ever play the position.

Wasn't trying to pick on you, just wanted to clarify what you meant as you said it wasn't successful if they only play 5 years, which he basically did.

Quote:Wasn't trying to pick on you, just wanted to clarify what you meant as you said it wasn't successful if they only play 5 years, which he basically did.

 

No worries. Also I guess it's a bit of semantics, but there are degrees of success. If Jack ends up playing for only five seasons and plays well, I wouldn't call him a failure by any means, but I wouldn't say it's a truly successful pick. If he ends up like Boselli, it's hard to argue with that level of production.

If Smith falls to 5th round for any reason he should be the clear choice... heck even the 4th IMO.

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/LesBowen'>Les Bowen ‏@LesBowen </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/LesBowen/status/722087348050092032' title="11:40 AM - 18 Apr 2016">3m3 minutes ago</a>

<p class="">Source says Jaylon Smith's recheck showed drop-foot problem, caused by nerve damage, hasn't improved since the combine.

Quote:If Smith falls to 5th round for any reason he should be the clear choice... heck even the 4th IMO.

Not sure how it's a clear choice unless there's a guarantee he's going to 100% fully recover.  If he's sitting out all of 2016 and there are serious question marks about him recovering, he's not draftable IMO.