Defensive line: Marks and Hopefully Fowler(keep). Every othter dlineman Is a backup
LB: Telvin Smith(keep). Poz is an ok veteran. Nobody else worth talking about
CB: House and Colvin(keep). The rest are backup bums
Safety: No current building blocks. Evan and Brown are as average as they come and Cyprien is just a bad SS. Horrible instincts, wrong angles, bad tackler, and bad in coverage
Looks like Dave is going to have to open up the check book this offseason for the defense.
I see it similar.
Marks is the cornerstone on the line.
Odrick, Telvin, Colvin, and Cyprien I keep around. But I still bring in real competition for them all.
We still seem to be in a position where we are free to choose BAP, IF we choose to do so this time. Other than taking a QB early, there really isn't much we couldn't use in any round.
Roy miller is a borderline elite nose tackle.
Quote:Roy miller is a borderline elite nose tackle.
I agree, he's a good player... but he doesn't effect the game like Wilfork, Hampton, and Williams used to. He's good enough to start for us again next season though.
Quote:Roy Miller is legit
Roy Miller is a backup DT on most teams.
DL: Fowler, Marks, Miller, Odrick, roleplayers: Davis, Jones, Bennett
Alualu and Chris Smith probably are keepers, although I wouldn't miss them if we can find better players, because they arent good enough to guarantee roster spots. We still need two more LEOS and probably another DT, although DT isn't a huge need going into the offseason. Eventually, we need to get a dominator inside (Henderson/Stroud like players) . LEO needs an overhaul.
LB : The only true keeper is Telvin, although Poz can be useful for another season or two, or until we draft a guy to take his spot. Skuta would be a good rotational guy with versatility, but I don't think he should be starting. Give me another OTTO.
CB: House and Colvin are pretty solid players, but I still feel we need a #1 CB. Get Gratz off this roster... Dude is useless.
S: We have a bunch of strong safeties manning both safety positions. Give me a FS with good range, and let Evans, Sample, Cyp, and Brown compete for the starting SS spot.
Ultimately, it all starts up front. We lack the ability to win the LOS, so we really need to improve the front 7. I expect 10-12 new defensive players to be brought in during free agency and the draft, with a big focus on LEO.
Smith, Colvin, House, Marks, and Fowler. The rest could be replaced with Publix employees and there would be no difference in performance.
Quote:I agree, he's a good player... but he doesn't effect the game like Wilfork, Hampton, and Williams used to. He's good enough to start for us again next season though.
Injuries worry me about Miller. If that doesn't get in the way, He'll be alright. As far as the thread:
To build around: Marks, Smith, Colvin, Cyprien (Sorry, I need to see this guy when we have a legit pass rush and hes able to freestyle the field), Fowler.
To replace: Evans, Poz (Father time will take him soon), Alualu, Clemons (Hes completely out of gas), House, Skuta, Odrick, Branch, Chris Smith
Help is on the way at DE and Caldwell will turn his gaze to the defense. We also just might have Poz's replacement already on the roster. Tripp stood out while watching the games he was filling in for Poz. The perfect example of a Jar on the shelf guy who emerges.
Quote:DL: Fowler, Marks, Miller, Odrick, roleplayers: Davis, Jones, Bennett
Alualu and Chris Smith probably are keepers, although I wouldn't miss them if we can find better players, because they arent good enough to guarantee roster spots. We still need two more LEOS and probably another DT, although DT isn't a huge need going into the offseason. Eventually, we need to get a dominator inside (Henderson/Stroud like players) . LEO needs an overhaul.
Going with this setup there is no room for replacement players. That is 6-7 players you want to keep from this years line. Granted you hope Marks comes back healthy and Fowler is legit. I personally believe they should draft De high in this years draft. Most of those keepers have played heavily this year and has not gotten it done.
Quote:Going with this setup there is no room for replacement players. That is 6-7 players you want to keep from this years line. Granted you hope Marks comes back healthy and Fowler is legit. I personally believe they should draft De high in this years draft. Most of those keepers have played heavily this year and has not gotten it done.
Agree, and a good pass rusher makes everybody else better exponentially.
Heck, I'd go OL and secondary in free agency and draft a DE in all 7 rounds.
Quote:Agree, and a good pass rusher makes everybody else better exponentially.
Heck, I'd go OL and secondary in free agency and draft a DE in all 7 rounds.
You can never have enough Dlinemen drafted but that..actually might be too much. We need more depth on both lines. Its time to start drafting the big guys first. I'd like to see caldwell also make a few risky shots for RB/Linebacker as well
Quote:Going with this setup there is no room for replacement players. That is 6-7 players you want to keep from this years line. Granted you hope Marks comes back healthy and Fowler is legit. I personally believe they should draft De high in this years draft. Most of those keepers have played heavily this year and has not gotten it done.
It's because I think this defense will take two offseason to fix, honestly. Guys like Odrick, Miller, Davis, Jones, and Bennett will be good to have around next year, for depth purposes. In Ryan Davis' case, he's versatile and good to have on the roster. I still feel we should add like 4 or 5 new linemen. If Gus wants to keep running this scheme, we need a plethora of pass rushers.
Quote:You can never have enough Dlinemen drafted but that..actually might be too much. We need more depth on both lines. Its time to start drafting the big guys first. I'd like to see caldwell also make a few risky shots for RB/Linebacker as well
I was kidding, kind of, but was playing the law of statistics that one of them would pan out.
IMO the Jags need 4 new starters on defense
Pass rushing left end
Outside corner
Ball hawk free safety
Otto linebacker (must be able to play the run, rush the passer, and have coverage skills...all equally well)
To add on to my last post, I don't know much about the upcoming draft, but from what I understand, defensive line (pass rushers) will be thin. Everyone past Bosa seems to be risky.
Quote:I was kidding, kind of, but was playing the law of statistics that one of them would pan out.
I agree with you, all defense in the draft... MAYBE sneak in an OL in the mid rounds.
Quote:To add on to my last post, I don't know much about the upcoming draft, but from what I understand, defensive line (pass rushers) will be thin. Everyone past Bosa seems to be risky.
How is this years db class?
Quote:How is this years db class?
Seems to be the strength of the defensive side of the ball. I just look at the first round though. If Ramsey has great range, that's who I'll probably lean towards... Bosa most likely won't be there at our pick.
Quote:To add on to my last post, I don't know much about the upcoming draft, but from what I understand, defensive line (pass rushers) will be thin. Everyone past Bosa seems to be risky.
No mattter what, there will be a strong secondary pick available wether it be VH or J. Ramsey. Both of those are massive upgrades to what we currently have right out of the block.