Quote:Consider this on Poz for the Falcons...
Poz didn't play against the Colts and the defensive staff schemed it up more to cover for him not playing. When Poz is playing they leave him on the field for third and long and we are getting toasted. Why?
My thoughts exactly.
I've been on the anti Gus train for a while, and I don't want to rehash all my points...
But to ignore the fact that we just always appear way behind the curve in terms of personnel adjustments and scheme corrections just makes it obvious to a lot of posters that the coaching is seriously lacking.
Also, and I've also said this quite a bit, most Gus Bradley detractors concede that the talent is not there. But even with a lack of talent, the measure of ineptitude is still strikingly troublesome.
We've seen no real strides from this d. It's a concern. And to ignore the lack of progression, to ignore the inability to make adjustments to suit personnel, to ignore the continued mental mistakes well into the season is disingenuous.
I think those of us who are no longer drinking the Gus juice have some very valid concerns that need to be addressed if this team wants to get better on defense. Yes, better players will also help. But you can't give the coaches a free pass either. If we were 20th on d, or were making progress, I could understand giving Gus a pass.
But that's just not what we are seeing.
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Lol, now all of a sudden there is no talent on Defense. (Roy Miller, Telvin Smith, Poz, House, Ryan Davis) have plenty of talent, wouldn you agree? The Gus love from some is ridiculous. This team needs a proven HC with a history of being successful. A Head Coach like that would of absolutely had this team better than 5-9 this season.
No, I would not agree.
Telvin Smith is talented, but as discussed between malabar and myself earlier, only Telvin Smith would start on that 2007 defense, which was the beginning of the Jaguars defensive decline.
Miller is, at best, the 7th best DT in team history. Poz is excellent against the run, but a liability in coverage. Ryan Davis isn't even getting any playing time-which may or may not be an indictment of Bradley in this instance.
The fact that Gus hasn't figured out that it might be best replace poz on passing downs is an indictment.
The whole thing is a mess
Quote:The fact that Gus hasn't figured out that it might be best replace poz on passing downs is an indictment.
The whole thing is a mess
This may well be true, but it begs the question: with whom do you replace him?
If Poz has a strength in pass coverage, it's good zone awareness. He may not be able to cover a fast TE down the seam, but he is often in position in zones to make INTs.
Whatever Poz's liabilities in coverage are, they may not be as pronounced in the total package as those he might be replaced with.
Quote:The fact that Gus hasn't figured out that it might be best replace poz on passing downs is an indictment.
The whole thing is a mess
Do other teams switch out their MLBs during the course of game? I've never heard of that. MLB is the quarterback of the defense. Just like a qb, you don't switch them out. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote:This may well be true, but it begs the question: with whom do you replace him?
If Poz has a strength in pass coverage, it's good zone awareness. He may not be able to cover a fast TE down the seam, but he is often in position in zones to make INTs.
Whatever Poz's liabilities in coverage are, they may not be as pronounced in the total package as those he might be replaced with.
I hear ya... but, in my mind, other coaches would look to correct a deficiency that they see.
Why not go nickel and replace poz with a cb?
Tripp had a heck of a game against the clots. Why not give him a few more snaps, for crying out loud?
Or, if you want poz in, blitz him.
I just see the same base scheme that doesn't work continue to get exploited.
Quote:Lol, now all of a sudden there is no talent on Defense. (Roy Miller, Telvin Smith, Poz, House, Ryan Davis) have plenty of talent, wouldn you agree? The Gus love from some is ridiculous. This team needs a proven HC with a history of being successful. A Head Coach like that would of absolutely had this team better than 5-9 this season.
Which of those players can rush the passer?
Quote:Do other teams switch out their MLBs during the course of game? I've never heard of that. MLB is the quarterback of the defense. Just like a qb, you don't switch them out. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't watch other teams as closely as I do the jaguars to be able to answer that question.
But I know that personnel packages are subbed in based on down and distance. If you have a player that is getting burned on pass plays, why not adjust, even if he is the mlb...
You don't think telvin could take over the play call duties pre snap when poz is out?
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Lol, now all of a sudden there is no talent on Defense. (Roy Miller, Telvin Smith, Poz, House, Ryan Davis) have plenty of talent, wouldn you agree? The Gus love from some is ridiculous. This team needs a proven HC with a history of being successful. A Head Coach like that would of absolutely had this team better than 5-9 this season.
Davis... lol I named a "few fa guys" and Smith and Colvin...
there are 4 or 5 pretty good to really good players the rest, average at best.
It isn't love for Bradley. It's understanding the reality of the situation.
Fire Bradley. I don't care. I'll be OK with or without him.
The Fire Bradley crowd seems to be much more up in arms about things out of their control than the other crowd.
Quote: Ryan Davis isn't even getting any playing time-which may or may not be an indictment of Bradley in this instance.
Or an indictment of Davis. I mean, maybe just maybe he is just a role player average guy who can get some pass rush when more pressure is applied by the true LEO end.
Clem fell off, and Marks was injured, this meant other people stepping up that just couldn't.
Without Fowler we regressed from the 4 man pass rush and had to manufacture a rush, with guys like colvin leading in sacks at one point.
If Davis could get to the QB he would have already in his limited snaps and forced more playing time.
What??
The fire Bradley crowd is a pretty chill crowd. Considering previous pitch fork and torches crowds that have shown up in these parts, the fire Bradley guys are an entire population of Fonzies. We're a bunch of Harvey Keitels in pulp fiction over here.
Come on, Kane.
99 percent of us have already accepted the fact that Bradley is probably coming back for the 2016 season.
That's so chill, you'd think we all live in Colorado.
Quote:What??
The fire Bradley crowd is a pretty chill crowd. Considering previous pitch fork and torches crowds that have shown up in these parts, the fire Bradley guys are an entire population of Fonzies. We're a bunch of Harvey Keitels in pulp fiction over here.
What of those of us undecideds?
Quote:2013- 28.1 points per game allowed- 28th in NFL- 379.4 YPG
2014- 25.8 points per game allowed- 26th in NFL- 370.8 YPG
2015- 27.1 points per game allowed- 30th in NFL- 361.5 YPG
Where's the improvement?! Like one other poster said, Gus sure as heck will NEVER beat any good QB's like Brees, Rodgers, Brady, etc with this pathetic defense. He's only beaten BAD QB's and even gave up 34 points to EJ Manuel this year and 50 points to (3-12) Marcus Mariota this year.
Playoff teams the past 3 years have averaged giving up 14 ppg- 21 ppg. The Jags have a LOT of work to do in the offseason to get this defense down 6-7 ppg. Firing Gus would be a good step.
I missed the part where we had a pass rush to Improve.
Quote:What of those of us undecideds?
You people need to pick a side. Lol
Quote:What??
The fire Bradley crowd is a pretty chill crowd. Considering previous pitch fork and torches crowds that have shown up in these parts, the fire Bradley guys are an entire population of Fonzies. We're a bunch of Harvey Keitels in pulp fiction over here.
Come on, Kane.
99 percent of us have already accepted the fact that Bradley is probably coming back for the 2016 season.
That's so chill, you'd think we all live in Colorado.
There is a new thread every day on the fallacies of our coach.
Pretty chill.
Quote:There is a new thread every day on the fallacies of our coach.
Pretty chill.
What's wrong with discussing our coach? He's a big part of the team...
There's only so many things that can be discussed.
We're the teen titans of chill, yo.
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If Davis could get to the QB he would have already in his limited snaps and forced more playing time.
This is purely based on your speculation that the coaches can use their players appropriately. Just because a guy isn't playing doesn't mean the guy can't play, it means the coach doesn't put him in the game.
Quote:There is a new thread every day on the fallacies of our coach.
Pretty chill.
Totally minor compared to the Garrad v. Lefty and Fire Smiff campaigns.
Quote:You people need to pick a side. Lol
You're either for firing Bradley or against success.
This team isn't any better than they were last year at this time.. they are still playing like a bunch of guys and not a team... neither side of the ball takes care of the other side of the ball. It's a train wreck cause by Gus.... and he will be back.
Quote:Which of those players can rush the passer?
Ryan Davis. He's been good with the limited time he's played.