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We still need a G to complete the roster, and the only legit FA left is an injured TJ Lang who looks to be signing with either the Seahawks or Lions. This suggests to me we're going to need a G in the draft, and unfortunately we're not in a good position for a shot at Forrest Lamp who is probably going in the early 20s. With this in mind I'm starting to think we're desperate for a starting G at the #35 pick, and there are a few interesting ones. I've looked at Taylor Moton who is ready and willing to play RG or RT along with Dan Feeney and Ethan Pocic who both project more as zone blockers vs power blockers. All three might work, but none are the full package that I'd like to see starting for us.

Then I ran across Temple LT Dion Dawkins who is typically listed as the best OT after the top three first rounders (Ramcyzk, Bolles and Robinson) and carries excellent value as an early second round pick. Dawkins was a fantastic starting OT for Temple, but he gets knocked out of the top three OTs with the following stigma...

...might be better in short areas as a guard rather than in open space as a tackle. He's athletic enough to operate in space, but power appears to be his calling card...



The more I look around and read, the more I realize he's a legit starting NFL Guard with more sheer power blocking ability than any of the names mentioned above. He's truly an ideal candidate.

For you stat guys, here's his combine results...

Dion Dawkins, Temple - 6' 3 7/8", 314 lbs, 35" arms, 9 7/8" hands, 5.11 40-yd, 26" vert, 8' 10" broad, 7.30 3-cone, 4.78 20-yd shuttle



I find myself hoping he makes it to #35.

I still prefer Feeney but tbh I'm not getting off that wagon

Dawkins is an intriguing prospect.

CBS just reshuffled their board (done by Rang and Brugler) and Dawkins is now the 3rd rated guard right behind Lamp and Feeney.

They give him a 2nd round grade.

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This is a good call. As you said, Lamp will probably be gone and Dawkins might be what they are looking for since he is powerful and can also move to tackle in a pinch. The Jaguars should pick up a 2nd offensive lineman in Rounds 3 or 4 as I expect at least one of Moton, Pocic, Elflein or Siragusa will be available. I'm tired of this team having such terrible offensive lines.

I both agree that Dawkins is probably the third best G in this class, but disagree he would be worth pick 35.

If Feeney is miraculously there you take him without hesitation, but the drop off from him to Dawkins is a really big tier break.

I think there is a good possibility that Lamp, Fenney and Dawkins will all be gone by pick #35. In my current mock, (post day one of free agency), I have........

26. Seattle- Forest Lamp

31. Atlanta- Dan Feeney

32. New England- Dion Dawkins

Quote:I think there is a good possibility that Lamp, Fenney and Dawkins will all be gone by pick #35. In my current mock, (post day one of free agency), I have........

26. Seattle- Forest Lamp

31. Atlanta- Dan Feeney

32. New England- Dion Dawkins

where did you post your mock at?

Quote:where did you post your mock at?

I haven't. Should I post it somewhere? I just have it here on my computer.

Quote:I haven't. Should I post it somewhere? I just have it here on my computer.

yeah, copy and paste. Would like to see it

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1. Cleveland Browns- Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M 

2. San Francisco 49ers- Soloman Thomas, DE, Stanford

3. Chicago Bears- Jamal Adams, S, LSU

4. Jacksonville Jaguars- Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

5. Tennessee Titans (Via Los Angeles Rams)- Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

6. New York Jets- Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

7. L.A. Chargers- Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama 

8. Carolina Panthers- Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

9. Cincinnati Bengals- Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

10. Buffalo Bills- Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

11. New Orleans Saints- Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

12. Cleveland (Via Philadelphia)- Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina 

13. Arizona Cardinals- Sidney Jones, CB, Washington 

14. Philadelphia (Via Minnesota)- Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

15. Indianapolis Colts- Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State

16. Baltimore Ravens- Rueben Foster, ILB, Alabama

17. Washington Redskins- De’Shaun Watson, QB, Clemson 

18. Tennessee Titans- John Ross, WR, Washington

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Christian McCaffey, RB, Stanford

20. Denver Broncos- Garrett Bolles, OT, Utah

21. Detroit Lions- Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn

22. Miami Dolphins- Takkarist McKinney, DE, UCLA

23. New York Giants- O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama

24. Oakland Raiders- Evan Engram, TE, Mississippi 

25. Houston Texans- Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin

26. Seattle Seahawks- Forest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky

27. Kansas City Chiefs- Jabrill Peppers, S/LB, Michigan 

28. Dallas Cowboys- Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida 

29. Green Bay Packers- Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State 

30. Pittsburgh Steelers- David Njokue, TE, Miami

31. Atlanta Falcons- Dan Feeney, OG/OT, Indiana

32. New England- Dion Dawkins, OG/OT, Temple

Quote:We still need a G to complete the roster, and the only legit FA left is an injured TJ Lang who looks to be signing with either the Seahawks or Lions. This suggests to me we're going to need a G in the draft, and unfortunately we're not in a good position for a shot at Forrest Lamp who is probably going in the early 20s. With this in mind I'm starting to think we're desperate for a starting G at the #35 pick, and there are a few interesting ones. I've looked at Taylor Moton who is ready and willing to play RG or RT along with Dan Feeney and Ethan Pocic who both project more as zone blockers vs power blockers. All three might work, but none are the full package that I'd like to see starting for us.

Then I ran across Temple LT Dion Dawkins who is typically listed as the best OT after the top three first rounders (Ramcyzk, Bolles and Robinson) and carries excellent value as an early second round pick. Dawkins was a fantastic starting OT for Temple, but he gets knocked out of the top three OTs with the following stigma...

...might be better in short areas as a guard rather than in open space as a tackle. He's athletic enough to operate in space, but power appears to be his calling card...



The more I look around and read, the more I realize he's a legit starting NFL Guard with more sheer power blocking ability than any of the names mentioned above. He's truly an ideal candidate.

For you stat guys, here's his combine results...

Dion Dawkins, Temple - 6' 3 7/8", 314 lbs, 35" arms, 9 7/8" hands, 5.11 40-yd, 26" vert, 8' 10" broad, 7.30 3-cone, 4.78 20-yd shuttle



I find myself hoping he makes it to #35.

I like Dion. Another guy, not often mentioned, but believe he'll be a solid guard, is Dorian Johnson.

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1. Cleveland Browns- Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M

2. San Francisco 49ers- Soloman Thomas, DE, Stanford

3. Chicago Bears- Jamal Adams, S, LSU

4. Jacksonville Jaguars- Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

5. Tennessee Titans (Via Los Angeles Rams)- Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

6. New York Jets- Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

7. L.A. Chargers- Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

8. Carolina Panthers- Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

9. Cincinnati Bengals- Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

10. Buffalo Bills- Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

11. New Orleans Saints- Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

12. Cleveland (Via Philadelphia)- Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina

13. Arizona Cardinals- Sidney Jones, CB, Washington

14. Philadelphia (Via Minnesota)- Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

15. Indianapolis Colts- Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State

16. Baltimore Ravens- Rueben Foster, ILB, Alabama

17. Washington Redskins- De’Shaun Watson, QB, Clemson

18. Tennessee Titans- John Ross, WR, Washington

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Christian McCaffey, RB, Stanford

20. Denver Broncos- Garrett Bolles, OT, Utah

21. Detroit Lions- Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn

22. Miami Dolphins- Takkarist McKinney, DE, UCLA

23. New York Giants- O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama

24. Oakland Raiders- Evan Engram, TE, Mississippi

25. Houston Texans- Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin

26. Seattle Seahawks- Forest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky

27. Kansas City Chiefs- Jabrill Peppers, S/LB, Michigan

28. Dallas Cowboys- Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida

29. Green Bay Packers- Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State

30. Pittsburgh Steelers- David Njokue, TE, Miami

31. Atlanta Falcons- Dan Feeney, OG/OT, Indiana

32. New England- Dion Dawkins, OG/OT, Temple

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Looks good...Take Fournette at 4, then trade down in 2nd if all the OL are gone for C and TE.

I'm good with Dawkins in the 2nd. My last mock I had Him in the 3rd but looks like his stock has risen. He's what we need at guard for run blocking

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1. Cleveland Browns- Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M 

2. San Francisco 49ers- Soloman Thomas, DE, Stanford

3. Chicago Bears- Jamal Adams, S, LSU

4. Jacksonville Jaguars- Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

5. Tennessee Titans (Via Los Angeles Rams)- Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

6. New York Jets- Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

7. L.A. Chargers- Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama 

8. Carolina Panthers- Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

9. Cincinnati Bengals- Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

10. Buffalo Bills- Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

11. New Orleans Saints- Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

12. Cleveland (Via Philadelphia)- Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina 

13. Arizona Cardinals- Sidney Jones, CB, Washington 

14. Philadelphia (Via Minnesota)- Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

15. Indianapolis Colts- Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State

16. Baltimore Ravens- Rueben Foster, ILB, Alabama

17. Washington Redskins- De’Shaun Watson, QB, Clemson 

18. Tennessee Titans- John Ross, WR, Washington

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Christian McCaffey, RB, Stanford

20. Denver Broncos- Garrett Bolles, OT, Utah

21. Detroit Lions- Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn

22. Miami Dolphins- Takkarist McKinney, DE, UCLA

23. New York Giants- O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama

24. Oakland Raiders- Evan Engram, TE, Mississippi 

25. Houston Texans- Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin

26. Seattle Seahawks- Forest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky

27. Kansas City Chiefs- Jabrill Peppers, S/LB, Michigan 

28. Dallas Cowboys- Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida 

29. Green Bay Packers- Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State 

30. Pittsburgh Steelers- David Njokue, TE, Miami

31. Atlanta Falcons- Dan Feeney, OG/OT, Indiana

32. New England- Dion Dawkins, OG/OT, Temple

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Good looking mock, but right off the bat, you need to change the New England pick to New Orleans due to the Brandin Cooks trade.

Couple of minor tweaks I would make, but I'd say you did well.

Quote:1. Cleveland Browns- Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M

2. San Francisco 49ers- Soloman Thomas, DE, Stanford

3. Chicago Bears- Jamal Adams, S, LSU

4. Jacksonville Jaguars- Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

5. Tennessee Titans (Via Los Angeles Rams)- Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

6. New York Jets- Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

7. L.A. Chargers- Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

8. Carolina Panthers- Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

9. Cincinnati Bengals- Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

10. Buffalo Bills- Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

11. New Orleans Saints- Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

12. Cleveland (Via Philadelphia
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Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina

13. Arizona Cardinals- Sidney Jones, CB, Washington

14. Philadelphia (Via Minnesota)- Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

15. Indianapolis Colts- Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State

16. Baltimore Ravens- Rueben Foster, ILB, Alabama

17. Washington Redskins- De’Shaun Watson, QB, Clemson

18. Tennessee Titans- John Ross, WR, Washington

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Christian McCaffey, RB, Stanford

20. Denver Broncos- Garrett Bolles, OT, Utah

21. Detroit Lions- Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn

22. Miami Dolphins- Takkarist McKinney, DE, UCLA

23. New York Giants- O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama

24. Oakland Raiders- Evan Engram, TE, Mississippi

25. Houston Texans- Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin

26. Seattle Seahawks- Forest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky

27. Kansas City Chiefs- Jabrill Peppers, S/LB, Michigan

28. Dallas Cowboys- Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida

29. Green Bay Packers- Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State

30. Pittsburgh Steelers- David Njokue, TE, Miami

31. Atlanta Falcons- Dan Feeney, OG/OT, Indiana

32. New England- Dion Dawkins, OG/OT, Temple

I have to agree with them. Very good mock. Nailed our pick as well

Quote:Good looking mock, but right off the bat, you need to change the New England pick to New Orleans due to the Brandin Cooks trade.

Couple of minor tweaks I would make, but I'd say you did well.

I know this is why I hate revealing these things until closer to the draft. Every time I do, some major deal comes along and I have to redo it. I had a 7 rounder, before free agency started, but with all the deals now, it's a mess. I have to totally start over. One pick in the wrong spot can cause a domino effect. On a brighter note, with the New Orleans/New England trade, it looks like Dawkins will fall to us.

Dawkins in the first round...that team will be regretful before not too long.

Quote:Dawkins in the first round...that team will be regretful before not too long.

Why? There is a huge dropoff in talent after him at the OG position.

Quote:Why? There is a huge dropoff in talent after him at the OG position.

I think the huge dropoff is right before him.

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