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Quote:We aren't worried about you lot. Texans are the problem

 

No, Colts are the problem. We still have to play at Houston.

Quote:No, Colts are the problem. We still have to play at Houston.

They are terrible at least Houston has a D. I can't see the Colts winning again. I think even the Titans may beat them

There is a scenario of us getting in at 7-9.

Houston HAS to beat Indy and both of them lose the last two games. Which means they both have to lose to Tennessee.

Quote:They are terrible at least Houston has a D. I can't see the Colts winning again. I think even the Titans may beat them

 

FYI Houston never won at Indianapolis. Brian Hoyer is very doubtful with multiple injuries. It will be a challenge for the Texans to win next week.

 

Quote:There is a scenario of us getting in at 7-9.

 

Houston HAS to beat Indy and both of them lose the last two games. Which means they both have to lose to Tennessee.

 

Unlikely to happen. I don't see the Titans beating either of them. The Colts can lose to Miami, but that does not affect their division record.

Historical results mean nothing. Prime Peyton Manning isn't playing for starters.

Quote:Historical results mean nothing. Prime Peyton Manning isn't playing for starters.

 

But present facts mean a lot and one of them is Brian Hoyer's status on the Texans injury report. We have to hope Charlie Whitehurst starts for the Colts.

Quote:It's getting desperate here

 

It's a fanbase grasping at straws. It's expected but I will admit that the excitement is kinda cool after so long.

Okay after giving it a lot of thought.......we could make the post season.

IF we win all three remaing games.

And you can use this http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/...l?team=jax

 

"With 48 games remaining, there are about 281 trillion different ways the N.F.L. regular season could end. How many of those put the Jaguars in the playoffs? Far too many to check by hand.

 

So we built this simulator. Most calculators force you to choose the winners of each remaining game. Here, you can choose the outcomes of just a few games and see how your team’s chances grow or shrink. (For more information about this simulator, check out our intro post.)"

 

Have fun! The thing is both 'horns and clots have two remaining division games each have the tacks left as well as each other. So someone has to win the game they have with each other. Other than that we need to win out and they pretty much need to lose out.....other than one win going to one of the current tied leaders.

 

Long and short we need the horns and phins to beat the clots in the next two....AND the tacks to beat the horns.....if the horns win that game its all over for us.....tacks win....horns game for us becomes do or die. We have to win to get in. Horns win? They're in.

Got it? LOL

Obviously they can't both lose out. As many have said on here we need the Texans to win next week because of their division record. The confusing part is some people say we can get in with 8 wins without applying tiebreakers while others claim even with that we need two Titans wins. Why is this so hard to figure out?

Quote:Obviously they can't both lose out. As many have said on here we need the Texans to win next week because of their division record. The confusing part is some people say we can get in with 8 wins without applying tiebreakers while others claim even with that we need two Titans wins. Why is this so hard to figure out?

It will be much easier to figure out after this week's games are played. Patience.


Hopefully the Jags can take care of the Falcons this week. Because, if the Jags lose and Colts win,, it's all over.

I'm just glad that with three weeks left we have a legit chance at the division.


No one can agrue that jacksonville isn't playing the best ball of all three right now.

Next you're probably going to have backups from both teams playing for the division lead. 

TJ Yates and Clipboard Jesus.

Some situation huh?  :ermm:

 

To me the div deal doesn't really matter.....we just need to put them all in the division on notice by winning out.

It's going to be a whole new ball game in 2016.

It's not that complicated. The Jags can't get tiebreakers on either Indy or Houston at 8 wins. They can at 7 wins.

 

The reason for this is Jax has a 5-6 conference record with only one AFC game to play, and the other two have 4-5 with all three games to play in the AFC. Either Indy or Houston are guaranteed 7 regular wins and another AFC win (total of 5) this week since they play each other. If the Jags win @ Houston, they have a 6-6 AFC record, which would trump Houston/Indy if the tie was at 7 wins. However, if it is at 8 wins, that team would have another AFC win (since they don't play any non-AFC opponents).

 

Jags can't win the head to head tiebreaker - Because they've lost to Houston and Indy already.

Jags can't win the division record tiebreaker - Because Jax is limited to at most a 3-3 division record, while the Indy/Houston winner is guaranteed at least 3 division wins.

Jags can't win the common opponents tiebreaker - Because all three teams went 1-1 in their uncommon games.

Jags can't win the conference record tiebreaker at 8 wins - as noted above

Strength of Victory is theoretically possible - BUT Houston beat 10-win Cincy and Indy beat 10-win Denver, so Jags are unlikely to catch up in this regard, much less pass the others

Jags are guaranteed to lose the Strength of Schedule tiebreaker - Cincy + KC / Denver + Pitt vs ... 3 win San Diego + 4 win Baltimore

 

Without tiebreaks, Jacksonville's season comes down to neither Indy nor Houston reaching 8 wins and taking two out of three (Houston required) themselves. Three is better as it prevents an 4-2 division Indy (by virtue of beating the the Titans after losing to the Texans) from knocking J'ville out at 7 wins.

Quote:It's going to be a whole new ball game in 2016.

 

I have NEVER heard this before! I think you're right!!

Quote:It will be much easier to figure out after this week's games are played. Patience.


Hopefully the Jags can take care of the Falcons this week. Because, if the Jags lose and Colts win, it's all over.

 

What if both the Jags and Colts win?

If Jags and Colts win, Jax needs Indy to lose vs Titans and Dolphins. Jax needs to win out.

If Jags and Texans win, Jax needs Hou to lose vs Titans. Needs Indy to lose to either Titans or Dolphins. Jax needs to win out.

If Jags lose and Texans win, Jax needs Hou to lose vs Titans. Jax needs Indy to lose to Titans and Dolphins. Jax needs to win out.

If Jags lose and Colts win, Jax is mathematically eliminated.

Quote:What if both the Jags and Colts win?

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

 

This solves everyones questions...

Quote:If Jags and Colts win, Jax needs Indy to lose vs Titans and Dolphins. Jax needs to win out.

If Jags and Texans win, Jax needs Hou to lose vs Titans. Needs Indy to lose to either Titans or Dolphins. Jax needs to win out.

If Jags lose and Texans win, Jax needs Hou to lose vs Titans. Jax needs Indy to lose to Titans and Dolphins. Jax needs to win out.

If Jags lose and Colts win, Jax is mathematically eliminated.

 

This means a Texans win is as important as a Jaguars win Sunday.

everyone will be 7-9 and the Colts get the playoffs