Quote:He's better than Brunell, Garrard, and that's really about the only two that count.
He's going to be a good one, but he still seems so raw. Needs to refine his skills more this off-season, thank goodness he has the will to want to be great. You know he;s super competitive by the way he never gives up on a play, to his detriment at times. Right now it seems he's just playing football on instinct and doesn't have those QB nuances down yet, but once he does, man he'll be good. It's bumpy from time to time and ridiculously exciting from time to time.
Quote:I'm saying that he's not coming out with ground breaking analysis with the fact that you will lose more when your defense gives up more points. It's been his schtick for awhile, him claiming others don't understand football because we lose more when we give up more points. It's just flat stupid for him to think posters don't understand that.
"some" posters will argue until blue in the face that Teddy is better "because 6-2"
so, some posters ignore it the fact that Teddy is on a better team... that's what he was referring to.
I'm guessing you were one of those people?
Yeah BB5 didn't play great... he had a COUPLE (not 4 or 5 with your hyperbole) INTs dropped...
but we won... he got into the endzone early, and later. Got us in position to win.
He (and Elvis) were the only ones with the wherewithal to actually play to the whistle...
Quote:He's going to be a good one, but he still seems so raw. Needs to refine his skills more this off-season, thank goodness he has the will to want to be great. You know he;s super competitive by the way he never gives up on a play, to his detriment at times. Right now it seems he's just playing football on instinct and doesn't have those QB nuances down yet, but once he does, man he'll be good. It's bumpy from time to time and ridiculously exciting from time to time.
I'd like him to learn to give that quick glance back over his left shoulder when he's flushing out right. I watched Manning and Brady do it three or four times in their game yesterday. You want to make sure you know where that blind side rusher is and how much time you truly have to throw. That run to the sidelines, take a monster hit, and lose five yards is tough to watch.
Quote:I'd like him to learn to give that quick glance back over his left shoulder when he's flushing out right. I watched Manning and Brady do it three or four times in their game yesterday. You want to make sure you know where that blind side rusher is and how much time you truly have to throw. That run to the sidelines, take a monster hit, and lose five yards is tough to watch.
Yes. These are the things that hopefully he'll learn with experience. These are the nuances that he needs to work on. Hopefully he watched all of his plays this off-season and improves greatly in this area. So much talent though.
Quote:"some" posters will argue until blue in the face that Teddy is better "because 6-2"
so, some posters ignore it the fact that Teddy is on a better team... that's what he was referring to.
I'm guessing you were one of those people?
Yeah BB5 didn't play great... he had a COUPLE (not 4 or 5 with your hyperbole) INTs dropped...
but we won... he got into the endzone early, and later. Got us in position to win.
He (and Elvis) were the only ones with the wherewithal to actually play to the whistle...
No, that's not me. I think Teddy is a game manager and lucky to be on the team he's on. Do people on here really not understand that if you allow more points you have a better chance of losing? I must have missed that thread, i think posters here understand that concept quite well, shouldn't even be brought up in discussion. You score more points, you win.
It's not hyperbole, go rewatch the game. He could have easily had 4 picks.
Quote:No one but yourself believes this. No [BAD WORD REMOVED] if your defense allows less points you have a better chance of winning. Everyone knows that, get over yourself. You come around here constantly pounding your chest about how smart you are, when in reality you aren't saying anything everyone else already knows. You're a clueless college kid who thinks he knows everything.
This x100. Jesus christ kid, stop spamming the same old crap every.single.time you post. You have not figured out the secret to football by realizing a good defense is preferable to winning vs a bad one.
Finally, someone who can pass and catch. I still can't believe Garrard holds that record, and Brunell only threw 20 in 1999. You can definitely say this has turned into a passing league.
I think from a TALENT standpoint, Bortles is miles better than Brunell. He's stronger, faster, stronger arm. He's also taller and meatier. But let's be honest with ourselves, he's not ranked above Brunell just yet. Brunell plays smarter and is more experienced at this point.
However, Brunell didn't have to worry about his blindside and had an amazing defense.
Quote:I think from a TALENT standpoint, Bortles is miles better than Brunell. He's stronger, faster, stronger arm. He's also taller and meatier. But let's be honest with ourselves, he's not ranked above Brunell just yet. Brunell plays smarter and is more experienced at this point.
However, Brunell didn't have to worry about his blindside and had an amazing defense.
And hes probably better with money and business decisions.
Bridgewater has a RB that runs for 203 yards and a TD, who also leads the league in rushing.
Bortles is better than Bridgewater, hands down.
Bortles is better than Bridgewater and I'm glad I was wrong about it. I wanted Bridgewater SO bad! I think right now Carr is better than Blake but I don't think it will be that way for long. Bortles can be one of the best Jags we've ever had in due time
Quote:Bortles is better than Bridgewater and I'm glad I was wrong about it. I wanted Bridgewater SO bad! I think right now Carr is better than Blake but I don't think it will be that way for long. Bortles can be one of the best Jags we've ever had in due time
Carr has looked really good.
21 TDs and 6 interceptions. Thats pretty insane.
Quote:And hes probably better with money and business decisions.
AND I bet he doesn't think Khan is moving us to London lol
No doubt Blake had a terrible game against the ravens (although a 2:1 td/int ratio is not all that bad) Lets looks at whats good and whats bad so far:
-Throws too many ints. Forces balls into windows that are too tight
-Holds onto the ball too long. Fumbles,ints,and sacks have been results of this
-Misses open throws. Every game he seems to miss or not even throw to a wide open target
-Dumb decisions. Just makes stupid mistakes at time
-Partially on the coaches but he throws too much. (nearly 40 times a game)
-Accuracy is still a problem. Around 55% needs to be improved
+Number 2 in the league at plays over 20+ yards
+19 TD/11 INTS. 5 TDs away from breaking the franchise record
+Tough. He takes beating every Sunday and keeps getting up
+Balls. Like the anti-gabbert. He is not afraid to force a play although it does get him in trouble at times
+Over an 80 rating. A huge improvement from last year.
+265 yds/gm. WOW
In year 2 most should be very pleased with what he has shown so far. Young Qb's are going to have stinker games but he has had many more good games than bad.
Personally,, I'd take Bortles over Bridgewater any day. I'd take him over Carr as well (even though Carr looks like he's gonna be pretty good also).
Blake's a definite "gamer". His physical attributes (size/ability to run) put him over Carr IMO.
Bortles still has alot of improving to do. But it's only his 2nd season. He will start limiting mistakes. Yesterday was not a very good game from him. But, he was still good enough on a few drives to enable the Jags to stay in position for the win.
He threw some awful looking passes there in the 2nd qtr. The INT was a bad play by him,, trying to force the throw way too late,, giving the Ravens an extremely short field for a 2 play TD. Luckily, the Ravens didn't capitalize on a couple other bad throws that could've been picked (especially at the end of the game).
Great sign form Bortles is that he shakes off a bad mistake and then can drive for a score. Great sign!
My game-ball goes to the defense though. Their run defense has been outstanding the past 2 weeks. They came up with at least 2 very key stops (1. early when Ravens went for it on 4th down,, led to Jags first TD 2. at the end when a Ravens 1st down would've ended the game). They've played excellent at the end of the past two games by keep stopping the opponents when they have to.
Oh yeah,, 3 turnovers collected (plus the muffed punt recovery. The defense has been playing well, particularly at times when they absolutely have to make a stop.
Anyway,, the Jags definitely have a good QB going forward. If the O-line/running game improves,, a strong balanced attack with Bortles at QB would make this offense top-notch!
Quote:No doubt Blake had a terrible game against the ravens (although a 2:1 td/int ratio is not all that bad) Lets looks at whats good and whats bad so far:
-Throws too many ints. Forces balls into windows that are too tight
-Holds onto the ball too long. Fumbles,ints,and sacks have been results of this
-Misses open throws. Every game he seems to miss or not even throw to a wide open target
-Dumb decisions. Just makes stupid mistakes at time
-Partially on the coaches but he throws too much. (nearly 40 times a game)
-Accuracy is still a problem. Around 55% needs to be improved
+Number 2 in the league at plays over 20+ yards
+19 TD/11 INTS. 5 TDs away from breaking the franchise record
+Tough. He takes beating every Sunday and keeps getting up
+Balls. Like the anti-gabbert. He is not afraid to force a play although it does get him in trouble at times
+Over an 80 rating. A huge improvement from last year.
+265 yds/gm. WOW
In year 2 most should be very pleased with what he has shown so far. Young Qb's are going to have stinker games but he has had many more good games than bad.
Accurate. The good news is, all of the stuff in red is correctable with experience.
He will crush the TD passes in a season.
Not sure if he will top 4300 as Brunell did in 96.
He is a competitive [BLEEP] and doesn't give up or expect to lose. That is not something you can learn and is by far his best attribute in my opinion.
Yeah, he has been pretty awesome to watch no doubt about that. Still wish our Oline was better, to help him and Yeldon.
As a matter of fact, BB leads the NFL in throwing 4th quarter interceptions... so he has that going for him too!