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Quote:I think khan wants a super bowl in jax.

Regardless of who is in it

I think that supporting our schools, police/firefighters, libraries, etc., our basic infrastructure, is a far greater need than the taxpayers supporting this. 

Quote:I think that supporting our schools, police/firefighters, libraries, etc., our basic infrastructure, is a far greater need than the taxpayers supporting this. 

 

And apparently the City agrees with you. I base this on the following statement:

 

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<p style="margin-left:40px;">Annual payback would come through part of the city’s 6 percent bed tax. Of that, 2 percent goes toward the last round of improvements that included the field’s scoreboards. But Mousa said there is capacity in that funding source to accommodate these improvements.


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This tells me that the actual residents of the city will not 'see' the impact of the funding and that other sources of income for the city can be used to support those things you describe. Besides, while all of those things are important for the maintenance and development of the city, none of them make money for the city. This is something that the city and it's people can use to make money and fund other, important items.

Please don't forget the volleyball net..

Quote:And the NCAA title game.

 

And to host the Pro Bowl.

 

And host a BCS Bowl.

 

And be considered for the Combine.

 

Face it, Khan has vision and does not put limits on what he can accomplish. Why can't Jacksonville host another Super Bowl and not act like they're lucky to have it? Why can't they be a place where the NCAA wants to have their title game?

And getting all of those things would bring millions to our city!!!!!!!!! 

Quote:Bring it on. It's about time Cowford grows up.

For the first time since June 18th, 1822?

Quote:I think that supporting our schools, police/firefighters, libraries, etc., our basic infrastructure, is a far greater need than the taxpayers supporting this. 

 

Nobody has said it is not. 

Quote:Yes they do. They built Patroit Place around their stadium for the low cost of 350 million. It is their "super regional lifestyle and entertainment center".

 

http://www.patriot-place.com/

 

Boom roasted, JagsFan32.

 

To be fair, the Patriots Stadium has an Olive Garden and a Bed, Bath and Beyond. Not extravagant lol.

In Khan We Trust.

Quote:To be fair, the Patriots Stadium has an Olive Garden and a Bed, Bath and Beyond. Not extravagant lol.

 

I drove by that place a few weeks back. The sheer size of the development alone screams "extravagant".

Quote:I think that supporting our schools, police/firefighters, libraries, etc., our basic infrastructure, is a far greater need than the taxpayers supporting this.

Libraries. This has been the kind of vision in city council. Libraries. Don't forget the courthouse!

Quote:And apparently the City agrees with you. I base this on the following statement:

 

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<p style="margin-left:40px;">Annual payback would come through part of the city’s 6 percent bed tax. Of that, 2 percent goes toward the last round of improvements that included the field’s scoreboards. But Mousa said there is capacity in that funding source to accommodate these improvements.


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This tells me that the actual residents of the city will not 'see' the impact of the funding and that other sources of income for the city can be used to support those things you describe. Besides, while all of those things are important for the maintenance and development of the city, none of them make money for the city. This is something that the city and it's people can use to make money and fund other, important items.

 

Are you sure. I thought most events and such that require these type of structures end up being effectively cash flow neutral. 

 

I mean haven't there been numerous studies about sports teams not actually increasing city GDP, and how recent Super Bowls and events losing money for cities that had to create infrastructure for them, as in they did not end up in the constant rotation.

 

I'm not saying we should not look to improve the city and infrastructure, but I'm not certain this produces the most bang for the buck.

The saints have a similar set up. It looks really nice

Quote:There are not many cities with a professional sports team that an owner could come in and make a huge impact in shaping the direction of the city. I do think Khan enjoys being in a position to shape a major metropolitan area. The man has a near blank slate to work with. This wouldn't be possible in Chicago or New York

This.......

Khan is the King of Jacksonville...... Whatever Khan wants Khan gets..... the city government bows down for the man. ....and that seems to mean good things for all parties involved.

I wonder how much advantage and impact an indoor training facility will have once built. We always complain of soft tissue injuries during camp. Can climate control help reduce these injuries? Id like to think it can if a player is getting any kind of dehydrated causing muscles to not function correctly. 

Why doesn't Khan pick up the bill for this?  The city of Jacksonville has to pick up part of the tab that will cost us $45 Million.  When they are cutting budgets to JSO and other important aspects to our city, this seems frivolous.  If he pays it all, I could care less, but having the tax payer pay it as well?

Quote:In Khan We Trust.

Or not.

Signed,

A Westside Sandwich Shop... Which will remain nameless


This is all great, and I look forward to our city growing. But crowning Khan is premature. It's business, theres eventual profit here.

The Weavers are true philanthropists, although they never subscribed to the go big or go home philosophy.


The practice facility, locker rooms, weight room are all nice, and the team is improving. But until there's a home playoff game,IMO, this is average chassis getting a Rolls Royce body.

Hopefully the team grows as its surroundings are. I'm optimistic it will.

Quote:Why doesn't Khan pick up the bill for this?  The city of Jacksonville has to pick up part of the tab that will cost us $45 Million.  When they are cutting budgets to JSO and other important aspects to our city, this seems frivolous.  If he pays it all, I could care less, but having the tax payer pay it as well?

 

Because the city benefits from it since they will own it.  It's called investment.

Quote:Because the city benefits from it since they will own it.  It's called investment.

I agree, and the theater goes without saying...concerts and other things, but what does the city get out of the club level upgrades and indoor practice facility?

 

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You should also not buy something you do not have the money for.  They are talking about decades of repayment.  That doesn't seem smart IMO.

Quote:Or not.

Signed,

A Westside Sandwich Shop... Which will remain nameless


This is all great, and I look forward to our city growing. But crowning Khan is premature. It's business, theres eventual profit here.

The Weavers are true philanthropists, although they never subscribed to the go big or go home philosophy.


The practice facility, locker rooms, weight room are all nice, and the team is improving. But until there's a home playoff game,IMO, this is average chassis getting a Rolls Royce body.

Hopefully the team grows as its surroundings are. I'm optimistic it will.

Khan is the one with the determination and vision to get this city out of it's primitive, "goody-goody" shackles chaining down Jacksonville's potential.

 

With regards to the Weavers, I highly respect them and give them the highest praise imaginable but WE (as a franchise and city) needed someone with the go big or go home philosophy. That type of mindset is one that will keep you down in mediocrity and content with it. 

 

This city has the potential to thrive even further and I, along with many others, am jubilated by Khan and his forward-thinking mentality and what he gets accomplished for this city.

 

Also, why not praise him for making positive business moves that would benefit the city and the team in the short and long term? He didn't become a billionaire for no reason and he clearly he knows what he is doing.

 

I support Khan and his ideas to the fullest extent. 

 

I bleed teal and black. Duval till we die. Go Jags!