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QB - Carolina

RB - Carolina

TE - Carolina due to injury

WR - Jacksonville

OL - Tie


DL - Carolina

LB - Carolina

DB - Tie


ST - Jacksonville
Quote:What potential?? You guys had the worst qb in the NFL last year. Even Cam with a broken back and crushed ribs fresh off of ankle surgery outplayed him. The guy is trash. All of a sudden he has ONE decent half of preseason football and he's ready to be a top 10 quarterback?? Stop it!

Lol Yikes....
Quote:What potential?? You guys had the worst qb in the NFL last year. Even Cam with a broken back and crushed ribs fresh off of ankle surgery outplayed him. The guy is trash. All of a sudden he has ONE decent half of preseason football and he's ready to be a top 10 quarterback?? Stop it!
 

 

He said Bortles looks like he's ready to join the top 10, which he did this preseason. Of course nobody has actually put him in the top 10 yet. His potential, however, is through the roof. Much went into Blakes poor stats as a rookie including a pourus OL that has two new starters at C and RT. In the first half of the season a few too many passes got away from the rookie and were intercepted. This prompted a more conservative game plan the second half of the season, and his stats were further complicated by him hitting a rookie wall where his arm was fatigued. This offseason, however, Blake has worked with experts on perfecting his mechanics and throwing motion, and it's paid off wonderfully. From the start of OTAs through the preseason, Blake's passes have been right on the money. Virtually every incompletion is the result of a drop, and with Bortles at the helm weeks two and three, the Jaguars converted 75 percent of their first downs. He was just as impressive week one, but I just don't know what the third down convertion stat is from that game to include it. Gil Brandt and Peter King are already on record boasting about how much Blake has improved, as are many others. We'll see week one if he's any better than Cam, but it's not like Cam is a top 10 qb either.

Quote:He said Bortles looks like he's ready to join the top 10, which he did this preseason. Of course nobody has actually put him in the top 10 yet. His potential, however, is through the roof. Much went into Blakes poor stats as a rookie including a pourus OL that has two new starters at C and RT. In the first half of the season a few too many passes got away from the rookie and were intercepted. This prompted a more conservative game plan the second half of the season, and his stats were further complicated by him hitting a rookie wall where his arm was fatigued. This offseason, however, Blake has worked with experts on perfecting his mechanics and throwing motion, and it's paid off wonderfully. From the start of OTAs through the preseason, Blake's passes have been right on the money. Virtually every incompletion is the result of a drop, and with Bortles at the helm weeks two and three, the Jaguars converted 75 percent of their first downs. He was just as impressive week one, but I just don't know what the third down convertion stat is from that game to include it. Gil Brandt and Peter King are already on record boasting about how much Blake has improved, as are many others. We'll see week one if he's any better than Cam, but it's not like Cam is a top 10 qb either.
There isn't 10 qbs in the league that I would take over Cam. All things being equal, I'd take him over just about anybody. He makes the kind of plays that no other player in this league can. He's going into his fifth season. In each of the last three seasons including this one he has a new LT and a new primary WR. Once he gets some stability around him he'll be a top 5 qb. The guy can make every throw and he can run over you, through you, and around you.
Cam was the top rated QB in the preseason FWIW...
Quote:There isn't 10 qbs in the league that I would take over Cam. All things being equal, I'd take him over just about anybody. He makes the kind of plays that no other player in this league can. He's going into his fifth season. In each of the last three seasons including this one he has a new LT and a new primary WR. Once he gets some stability around him he'll be a top 5 qb. The guy can make every throw and he can run over you, through you, and around you.
 

 

Hold on... you'll have to excuse me. I just choked on this pie I was eating while reading this.

Quote:Hold on... you'll have to excuse me. I just choked on this pie I was eating while reading this.


I know, it's about as sane as saying Bortles will be a top 15 QB...ever.
Quote:There isn't 10 qbs in the league that I would take over Cam. All things being equal, I'd take him over just about anybody. He makes the kind of plays that no other player in this league can. He's going into his fifth season. In each of the last three seasons including this one he has a new LT and a new primary WR. Once he gets some stability around him he'll be a top 5 qb. The guy can make every throw and he can run over you, through you, and around you.
Bruh...


Brees Rodgers Manningx2 Luck Rivers Brady Flacco Roethlisberger Wilson Romo Ryan


That doesn't include toss ups like Stafford Palmer Smith Dalton (and I think he's poop)
Quote:Hold on... you'll have to excuse me. I just choked on this pie I was eating while reading this.
 

You should see their message board, they're talking themselves up over the Jaguars based on preseason stats. It's hilarious.
Quote:Cam was the top rated QB in the preseason FWIW...
So Blake playing well in preseason is absurd because.... It's preseason


But Cam being the top rated passer in preseason is....


Got it. You're never going to get a fair trial going to the other teams board. Not sure what you and your buddies hoped to accomplish coming here. Of course some people are going to bash Cam because.... This is a Jags board. Shocker.


Of course people are going to back Blake because.... This is a Jags board.
Quote:You should see their message board, they're talking themselves up over the Jaguars based on preseason stats. It's hilarious.


It's really more about getting to play the Jags in Week 1.
Quote:So Blake playing well in preseason is absurd because.... It's preseason


But Cam being the top rated passer in preseason is....


Got it. You're never going to get a fair trial going to the other teams board. Not sure what you and your buddies hoped to accomplish coming here. Of course some people are going to bash Cam because.... This is a Jags board. Shocker.


Of course people are going to back Blake because.... This is a Jags board.


No, I just countered your Bortles is the ne,t great thing because of preseason with that little tidbit. Comparing apples to apples.
Quote:It's really more about getting to play the Jags in Week 1.


It's irrelavant who the Panthers play in week 1, because like the Jags they will end the season with no Super Bowl.
Quote:No, I just countered your Bortles is the ne,t great thing because of preseason with that little tidbit. Comparing apples to apples.
Who's argument? Not mine.


Appreciate you coming to this board though and letting us know how you feel about the Jags.


Good day to you sir.
Quote:No, I just countered your Bortles is the ne,t great thing because of preseason with that little tidbit. Comparing apples to apples.
 

You wouldn't know this, but Bortles as a rookie wasn't nearly as disastrous as you might think listening to talking heads that only look at the stats. In fact he even had a record setting game against the chargers, not that records mean much. The people on the board watched the games last year and witnessed the reality - Bortles was possibly the best player on the field for the Jaguars and much better as a QB and leader of men than his stats or w/l record suggest.
Quote:You wouldn't know this, but Bortles as a rookie wasn't nearly as disastrous as you might think listening to talking heads that only look at the stats. In fact he even had a record setting game against the chargers, not that records mean much. The people on the board watched the games last year and witnessed the reality - Bortles was possibly the best player on the field for the Jaguars and much better as a QB and leader of men than his stats or w/l record suggest.


I hope for you sake you're right.
Quote:You wouldn't know this, but Bortles as a rookie wasn't nearly as disastrous as you might think listening to talking heads that only look at the stats. In fact he even had a record setting game against the chargers, not that records mean much. The people on the board watched the games last year and witnessed the reality - Bortles was possibly the best player on the field for the Jaguars and much better as a QB and leader of men than his stats or w/l record suggest.

And his dad didn't take money from colleges....
Quote:And his dad didn't take money from colleges....


Oh good, that'll change the outcome Sunday.
Quote:Oh good, that'll change the outcome Sunday.

Sweet.
Quote:Oh good, that'll change the outcome Sunday.

The outcome on Sunday won't change the fact that Cam is a laptop thief.
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