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Quote:You earn respect by actions.

 

Trump could never earn your respect. You and your people have made up your minds.

Quote:Trump could never earn your respect. You and your people have made up your minds.

You don't see a problem with that statement do you?

Trump never mentioned a terrorist attack.   He was referring to the number of rapes that have been committed in Sweden by "refugees".   

Quote:Trump never mentioned a terrorist attack. He was referring to the number of rapes that have been committed in Sweden by "refugees".

Bull


Was there some rape the night before his speech? He said " last night".


And does he do any research to the validity of the absurd things he says?

Sweden is a mess thanks to the refugee crisis there. Many people have spoken out about this over the past two or three years. Look up the "Angry Foreigner". He breaks it down pretty well for people who are unaware. But Trump did say "last night". And he does get defensive too quickly.

 

That was one of my concerns with him being our President. He's not as well crafted in public speaking because he's not a career politician who had to practice being a snake tongued, sensitive, pandering puppet to the willfully ignorant masses here in our country. 

 

With that said. He does need to get better when speaking out at times. Especially when it's the MSM that he knows will find anything and everything that bleeds and they can use against him. 

He was wrong about "last night", but the general point he was making is correct.  Their sex crimes have increased by alot.

Quote:Sweden is a mess thanks to the refugee crisis there. Many people have spoken out about this over the past two or three years. Look up the "Angry Foreigner". He breaks it down pretty well for people who are unaware. But Trump did say "last night". And he does get defensive too quickly.


That was one of my concerns with him being our President. He's not as well crafted in public speaking because he's not a career politician who had to practice being a snake tongued, sensitive, pandering puppet to the willfully ignorant masses here in our country.


With that said. He does need to get better when speaking out at times. Especially when it's the MSM that he knows will find anything and everything that bleeds and they can use against him.

Might want to research a bit more. Possibly from someone in Sweden like Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminologist at Stockholm who has debunked this assertion quite well.


Also Sweden had the most liberal pro feminist rape laws in the world.

Quote:He was wrong about "last night", but the general point he was making is correct. Their sex crimes have increased by alot.

Are you even familiar with what you are trying speak about? Understand the rape laws of Sweden?

Quote:Might want to research a bit more. Possibly from someone in Sweden like Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminologist at Stockholm who has debunked this assertion quite well.


Also Sweden had the most liberal pro feminist rape laws in the world.



Are you even familiar with what you are trying speak about? Understand the rape laws of Sweden?

 

Sweden was dubbed the #1 rape capitol in the world in 2015. So I guess a lot of Swedish women were making [BAD WORD REMOVED] up that year? You can find links to validate these statements. 

 

It was reported in BBC News and various articles. There's police reports from last year bluntly stating that 80% of assailants in bath house sex attacks were immigrants. Sweden also had or has 55 "No Go" zones thanks to the immigration influx. 

 

Again, unless multiple sources are all full of [BAD WORD REMOVED]. I don't know what more you'd want? 

Quote:Sweden was dubbed the #1 rape capitol in the world in 2015. So I guess a lot of Swedish women were making [BAD WORD REMOVED] up that year?

Again do a little research. Rape in Sweden is not the same as US.

Quote:Again do a little research. Rape in Sweden is not the same as US.

 

So, somehow it's still less offensive of a crime? You would be cool with some dirty [BLEEP] on the street fondling, touching and harassing your wife, mother or daughter? Bottom line. Rape wasn't reported this highly until AFTER the immigration crises....

Sounds like the point has been missed. Sweden is begging for help as refugees have changed/encouraged the crime culture. Crime in Sweden, not just rape, is rapidly growing. Since refugees are not allowed to worked for an extended period of time, poverty is climbing and influencing crime growth.

Quote:Sounds like the point has been missed. Sweden is begging for help as refugees have changed/encouraged the crime culture. Crime in Sweden, not just rape, is rapidly growing. Since refugees are not allowed to worked for an extended period of time, poverty is climbing and influencing crime growth.

 

This. Sweden simply doesn't have the labor available to offer them nor the living space or capacity to keep taking them on. Sweden is ran by a bunch of morons and most naturally born Swedes have been polled and are truly begging for a new party of leadership there. They've been ran into the ground. Just like France & Germany. 

Quote:So, somehow it's still less offensive of a crime? You would be cool with some dirty [BAD WORD REMOVED] on the street fondling, touching and harassing your wife, mother or daughter? Bottom line. Rape wasn't reported this highly until AFTER the immigration crises....

I am just going to point out this was over the line and ignorant. No where did I claim or insinuate in any manner what you posted. Please refrain from overt character assaination and stick to facts.

Quote:Sounds like the point has been missed. Sweden is begging for help as refugees have changed/encouraged the crime culture. Crime in Sweden, not just rape, is rapidly growing. Since refugees are not allowed to worked for an extended period of time, poverty is climbing and influencing crime growth.

 

^^ The point was missed only because it was not presented correctly.

 

While I love the fact that President Trump is so open and readily available to the public via press conferences, rallys, and tweets, I really think he'd benefit from going more "on script" based on information that is reviewed by his staff.  This would eliminate most mistakes.

Quote:Again do a little research. Rape in Sweden is not the same as US.

 

The point is that they are having sex crime problems as a result of migrants.  That's a fact.  We have problems in this country too.

Quote:I am just going to point out this was over the line and ignorant. No where did I claim or insinuate in any manner what you posted. Please refrain from overt character assaination and stick to facts.

 

It's not over the line nor ignorant. Nowhere did I say you personally feel that way. I asked a simple question. Nice twisting of my words there chief.

 

As far as facts. That's up for interpretation. You have one side lobbying their version of "facts" and an opposing side lobbying their version of "facts". I'll go with the police reports, first hand accounts, written and documented testimonies and common sense analysis when you look at something and go:

 

"Rape was relatively reported pretty low in Sweden prior to the immigration crises". You can even hear personal testimonies from the immigrants that have entered Sweden and they're even questioning why they were allowed in if they didn't have the capacity or jobs for them to utilize.

 

They've also had to take courses and classes to better assimilate with Sweden's society and laws since in their lands women who don't cover up are essentially prostitutes who have whatever it is they have coming to them. 

Quote:^^ The point was missed only because it was not presented correctly.


While I love the fact that President Trump is so open and readily available to the public via press conferences, rallys, and tweets, I really think he'd benefit from going more "on script" based on information that is reviewed by his staff. This would eliminate most mistakes.

Point is that like any country the Swedes too have a far right faction known as Swedish Democrats. They publish and provide poor facts to drive their narrative. The center Moderates still poll highest.


Swedish criminologists have debunked the narrative over and over and the Party will keep telling a different story. No different in the US.


Trump spoke on stuff he has zero knowledge about and that is dangerous and shows ineptitude and ignorance. And his die yards eat it hook, line, and sinker.

Quote:Point is that like any country the Swedes too have a far right faction known as Swedish Democrats. They publish and provide poor facts to drive their narrative. The center Moderates still poll highest.


Swedish criminologists have debunked the narrative over and over and the Party will keep telling a different story. No different in the US.


Trump spoke on stuff he has zero knowledge about and that is dangerous and shows ineptitude and ignorance. And his die yards eat it hook, line, and sinker.

 

Trump didn't invent the immigration crisis in Europe. Sorry, its real.

 

You're basically arguing that like here, the right over there is making stuff up.  That isn't exactly convincing anybody here on the right since we think you people on the left are brainwashed idiots.

 

All you're doing is reading biased articles saying, "DEBUNKED" when its hardly fact.  You just read shills pushing their own agenda without going on facts.  Sweden has had problems.  that's a fact.  reading snopes doesn't make you informed.  that just makes you a mark.

Quote:Point is that like any country the Swedes too have a far right faction known as Swedish Democrats. They publish and provide poor facts to drive their narrative. The center Moderates still poll highest.

Swedish criminologists have debunked the narrative over and over and the Party will keep telling a different story. No different in the US.


Trump spoke on stuff he has zero knowledge about and that is dangerous and shows ineptitude and ignorance. And his die yards eat it hook, line, and sinker.

 

That's wrong above. The Swedish Government actually turns its cheek to these statistics like Germany and France does. That's why the people of Germany and France are fixing to be politically shifting to the right and national conservatives when their elections come up..... 

Quote:Trump didn't invent the immigration crisis in Europe. Sorry, its real.


You're basically arguing that like here, the right over there is making stuff up. That isn't exactly convincing anybody here on the right since we think you people on the left are brainwashed idiots.

That's not what he said. You know it as well. And don't even try to pretend he knew [BLEEP] he was talking about! That's why he is dangerous.