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Quote:Some guy who does something the rabid right refuses. Studies, collects data, and reports facts.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.su.se/polopoly_fs/1.55504.1321514493!/SULCISWP_2011_1.pdf'>http://www.su.se/polopoly_fs/1.55504.1321514493!/SULCISWP_2011_1.pdf</a>
That report is 6 years old.  Anything more current?
Quote:So the amount of crime has skyrocketed in Jacksonville in line with the increase in average temperatures over the last decade. If you perform a linear regression you'd see the two are highly correlated. Therefore, as temperatures rise so does crime. It's only a matter of time until summer hits, when the crime will really spike. Don't be surprised if all of Jacksonville is in flames.
 

Or, it could be the fact that Jacksonville is currently 12th in population in our country and the 12th fastest growing city since May of 2016. More people, more problems. 
Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/europe/sweden-stockholm-riots/index.html'>http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/europe/sweden-stockholm-riots/index.html</a>


HAHAHAH FAKE NEWS AND YOU FELL FOR IT. AGAIN. Sad!
Quote:HAHAHAH FAKE NEWS AND YOU FELL FOR IT. AGAIN. Sad!
 

It's not fake. Not sure if you're throwing sarcasm out there or if you lean left or right because it's from CNN. But you can find people saying the same things in this Vlog here on YouTube and you can read through the 4,000+ comments in the comment section with various people from Sweden supporting what this man is saying..... 

 

Less than a day since his video uploaded and it already has over 300,00 views. It has a huge amount of support in likes Vs. dislikes. And his subscribers are predominantly Swedish..... 

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY

Quote:It's not fake. Not sure if you're throwing sarcasm out there or if you lean left or right because it's from CNN. But you can find people saying the same things in this Vlog here on YouTube and you can read through the 4,000+ comments in the comment section with various people from Sweden supporting what this man is saying.....


Less than a day since his video uploaded and it already has over 300,00 views. It has a huge amount of support in likes Vs. dislikes. And his subscribers are predominantly Swedish.....


www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY
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Your link doesn't work. 
Quote:Your link doesn't work.


Ehhhhhhhh FAKE NEWS
Last year there were 135 homicides in Washington D.C., population 670,000. That's 30 more than in the whole of Sweden, population 10 million.

Quote:It's not fake. Not sure if you're throwing sarcasm out there or if you lean left or right because it's from CNN. But you can find people saying the same things in this Vlog here on YouTube and you can read through the 4,000+ comments in the comment section with various people from Sweden supporting what this man is saying.....


Less than a day since his video uploaded and it already has over 300,00 views. It has a huge amount of support in likes Vs. dislikes. And his subscribers are predominantly Swedish.....


www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY


No one doubts Sweden has Nativist not happy with brown skin people moving in. Statistics don't agree with the fear mongering.


Sweden would like one of their immigrant rapists back though. Now if Ecuador would just send Julian Assange back to answer for his crime.
Quote:Last year there were 135 homicides in Washington D.C., population 670,000. That's 30 more than in the whole of Sweden, population 10 million.
 

Cites, facts, resources, links? Anything? You do realize this whole argument is about rape, sexual assault, theft and robbery and not homicide right? And, using your logic earlier too from this thread, since Sweden counts "rape" differently than we do. 

 

"The reliability of underlying national murder rate data may vary.<sup>[1]</sup> The legal definition of "intentional homicide" differs among countries. Intentional homicide may or may not include infanticideassisted suicide or euthanasia.<sup>[2]"</sup>
Quote:Last year there were 135 homicides in Washington D.C., population 670,000. That's 30 more than in the whole of Sweden, population 10 million.



No one doubts Sweden has Nativist not happy with brown skin people moving in. Statistics don't agree with the fear mongering.


Sweden would like one of their immigrant rapists back though. Now if Ecuador would just send Julian Assange back to answer for his crime.
 

"No one doubts Sweden has Nativist not happy with brown skin people moving in". Nice assumption there chief. Way to judge a nation of people there. 

 

I am all for justice. If Assange is guilty of rape he should pay the penalties for it. But, using your logic from earlier, since Sweden counts "rape" differently. I am sure he'll get to walk just like those three immigrants did after they gang raped a woman and laughed about it for hours on end. 

 

And then you speak of "fear mongering". Really? Someone who clearly leans left and would vote in their primary nominee from their party after she had to rig and cheat her biggest, and honestly, better competitor in Sanders?

 

And you're going to speak on "fear mongering"? Half of the left side of the aisle was ready to hijack the country or blow up the white house as Madonna pointed out publicly and nationally. 

 

Look. I can't stand either side of the aisle. I hate both of your sides relatively equally. But you lefties are just making it too damn easy these days. 

The USA is far more dangerous than Sweden. Not to say they haven't had an increase of sexual assault etc. That certainly is an issue.


Imagine if countries banned all Americans because they are more likely to kill you than Europeans
Quote:"No one doubts Sweden has Nativist not happy with brown skin people moving in". Nice assumption there chief. Way to judge a nation of people there.


I am all for justice. If Assange is guilty of rape he should pay the penalties for it. But, using your logic from earlier, since Sweden counts "rape" differently. I am sure he'll get to walk just like those three immigrants did after they gang raped a woman and laughed about it for hours on end.


And then you speak of "fear mongering". Really? Someone who clearly leans left and would vote in their primary nominee from their party after she had to rig and cheat her biggest, and honestly, better competitor in Sanders?


And you're going to speak on "fear mongering"? Half of the left side of the aisle was ready to hijack the country or blow up the white house as Madonna pointed out publicly and nationally.


Look. I can't stand either side of the aisle. I hate both of your sides relatively equally. But you lefties are just making it too damn easy these days.
You don't believe there are people in countries who are Natavist. Remember reading up on the Know Nothing Party.


Since I don't support much of the left, I am not following the other gibberish.
Quote:The USA is far more dangerous than Sweden. Not to say they haven't had an increase of sexual assault etc. That certainly is an issue.


Imagine if countries banned all Americans because they are more likely to kill you than Europeans
 

Nobody said it wasn't. That's what I don't get here. I keep seeing these comparisons of our country to smaller countries. We have over 320M people here. Sweden is about 10M people. We have cities with that amount or close to that amount of people living in it. I still don't understand the argument or logic behind that line of thinking. At all. 

 

It still doesn't cheapen or lessen the fact that they're seeing a lot of issues there socially and living standard wise. The fact that they can barely house their own people and that they have a waiting list to get people into homes and that college graduates may have to live at home until the age of 29 while they're taking in over 100,000 of immigrants doesn't make a lot of sense.

Quote:Nobody said it was. That's what I don't get here. I keep seeing these comparisons of our country to smaller countries. We have over 320M people here. Sweden is about 10M people. We have cities with that amount or close to that amount of people living in it. I still don't understand the argument or logic behind that line of thinking. At all.


It still doesn't cheapen or lessen the fact that they're seeing a lot of issues there socially and living standard wise. The fact that they can barely house their own people and that they have a waiting list to get people into homes and that college graduates may have to live at home until the age of 29 while they're taking in over 100,000 of immigrants doesn't make a lot of sense.


Don't reckon rent restraints have anything to do with that?
Quote:You don't believe there are people in countries who are Natavist. Remember reading up on the Know Nothing Party.


Since I don't support much of the left, I am not following the other gibberish.
 

I believe in a lot of things. But when I see people, such as a Bosnian immigrant, with a Muslim background, who previously fled to Sweden with his family after the Balkan war in the 90s speaking on these issues. And the fact that Sweden's own government likes to openly claim it's a nation of immigrants. Which it is.

 

You can see the top ten nationalities that make up Sweden since 2015 provided below. I just find it hard to believe that a nation that's just south of 10M and comprised of 20% non-natives would be so heavily biased or against other nationalities all of a sudden entering the country when it's been the trend for the past ten years.

 

And, once again, I like how you just gloss over the fact that there's now, CNN showing issues today over there to back up Trump after they said it was fake news.

 

And the fact that you can literally go onto YouTube, FaceBook, etc. And you can personally READ, LISTEN & SEE from actual people that LIVE in Sweden telling you and validating that some of these claims aren't false or fake at all. 

 

  1. Finland (156,045)
  2. Iraq (131,888)
  3. Syria (98,216)
  4. Poland (85,517)
  5. Iran (69,067)
  6. Former Yugoslavia (67,190)
  7. Somalia (60,623)
  8. Bosnia and Herzegovina (57,705)
  9. Germany (49,586)
  10. Turkey (46,373)
Quote:Don't reckon rent restraints have anything to do with that?
 

No. It's due to being over crowded. They don't have enough capacity to take care of their own people and they're willing to cram more people into their country without thinking things through. Again, there's a reason why a week ago when a poll was conducted in Sweden that 8 out of 10 Swedes didn't trust their current Government.

 

And, once again, you can find videos and articles of Syrian refugees asking the same exact thing. Why were they allowed into the country if they were not able to properly provide them with housing and jobs?

Quote:I believe in a lot of things. But when I see people, such as a Bosnian immigrant, with a Muslim background, who previously fled to Sweden with his family after the Balkan war in the 90s speaking on these issues. And the fact that Sweden's own government likes to openly claim it's a nation of immigrants. Which it is.


You can see the top ten nationalities that make up Sweden since 2015 provided below. I just find it hard to believe that a nation that's just south of 10M and comprised of 20% non-natives would be so heavily biased or against other nationalities all of a sudden entering the country when it's been the trend for the past ten years.


And, once again, I like how you just gloss over the fact that there's now, CNN showing issues today over there to back up Trump after they said it was fake news.


And the fact that you can literally go onto YouTube, FaceBook, etc. And you can personally READ, LISTEN & SEE from actual people that LIVE in Sweden telling you and validating that some of these claims aren't false or fake at all.

<ul class="bbcol decimal">[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland'>Finland</a> (156,045)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq'>Iraq</a> (131,888)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria'>Syria</a> (98,216)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland'>Poland</a> (85,517)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran'>Iran</a> (69,067)[*]Former <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia'>Yugoslavia</a> (67,190)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia'>Somalia</a> (60,623)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina'>Bosnia and Herzegovina</a> (57,705)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany'>Germany</a> (49,586)[*]<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey'>Turkey</a> (46,373)</ul>


The fact you are using YouTube as a factual news site is hilarious.
Quote:The fact you are using YouTube as a factual news site is hilarious.
 

I give up. You're too dense to have a logical and sensible debate or argument with. You do realize that even MSM outlets like CNN, CBS, FOX, ABC, etc. They're also utilizing YouTube now for subscribers, putting out news and information and also using it as a platform or farm house to develop future journalists and writers that they will eventually debut on their major and primary platform right? 

 

Same goes for Facebook. And, again, after all the bull [BAD WORD REMOVED] that the MSM has been called out for, between the blatant lying, false reporting and manipulation to favor their own agendas. That goes for all of them. FOX and CNN especially. You're truly a sheep for not utilizing the information age while it's free here in our country to your advantage. To arm yourself with knowledge, both, foreign and domestic. 

 

I give up on you with this though. You're just coming off as a contrarian just for the sake of it. You've honestly offered next to nothing of worth while substance to anything I've laid out to you today. And you like to call people "ignorant" around here. You sure you can't apply that label to yourself chief?

 

G'night. 

Quote:I give up. You're too dense to have a logical and sensible debate or argument with. You do realize that even MSM outlets like CNN, CBS, FOX, ABC, etc. They're also utilizing YouTube now for subscribers, putting out news and information and also using it as a platform or farm house to develop future journalists and writers that they will eventually debut on their major and primary platform right?


Same goes for Facebook. And, again, after all the bull [BAD WORD REMOVED] that the MSM has been called out for, between the blatant lying, false reporting and manipulation to favor their own agendas. You're truly a sheep for not utilizing the information age while it's free here in our country to your advantage. To arm yourself with knowledge, both, foreign and domestic.


I give up on you with this though. You're just coming off as a contrarian just for the sake of it. You've honestly offered next to nothing of worth while substance to anything I've laid out to you today. And you like to call people "ignorant" around here. You sure you can't apply that label to yourself chief?


G'night.
I believe I only said it to one person and it was based on a personal attack not on their opinions or beliefs.


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I posted statistics and facts from scholars who actually live in Sweden. Not using CNN or any other MSM either.
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