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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1882855311666778311

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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1882855311666778311

Woah, how the once mighty have fallen.  He was the best thing since sliced bread a year ago.  I guess maybe there was something to the luck Stroud experienced his rookie year chucking up 50/50 balls that were more often than not caught and then that didn't happen this year quite as much.  I know it's more complicated than that, but there was definitely some of that going on the year prior.

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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1882855311666778311

Woah, how the once mighty have fallen.  He was the best thing since sliced bread a year ago.  I guess maybe there was something to the luck Stroud experienced his rookie year chucking up 50/50 balls that were more often than not caught and then that didn't happen this year quite as much.  I know it's more complicated than that, but there was definitely some of that going on the year prior.

LOL, Stroud sure was lucky for 19 games in the 2023 season.  So lucky he put up multiple NFL records...  The truth is that Stroud seemed to be addicted to the deep ball in 2024, despite the fact that his OL couldn't provide him protection to make the deep field reads.  Slowik didn't/couldn't put his foot down to make Stroud change his read order, resulting in Stroud holding the ball way to long.  I consider a third of those sacks were on Stroud himself.  In addition, Slowik couldn't solve the OL problem throughout the year.

Don't forget that the "slump" is a temporary/one-year thing.  If it wasn't it would be called a bust.  I'm excited to see what the new OC can do with Stroud in his 3rd year.  I still have tons of faith that Stroud is the guy, he has that "IT" factor, and he went 9-8 with a first place schedule, so the team as a whole was better in 2024.  If the offense can come back the Texans will be a legitimate threat in the AFC, because the Texans defense is already playing championship ball in their 2nd year under Demeco.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

Woah, how the once mighty have fallen.  He was the best thing since sliced bread a year ago.  I guess maybe there was something to the luck Stroud experienced his rookie year chucking up 50/50 balls that were more often than not caught and then that didn't happen this year quite as much.  I know it's more complicated than that, but there was definitely some of that going on the year prior.

LOL, Stroud sure was lucky for 19 games in the 2023 season.  So lucky he put up multiple NFL records...  The truth is that Stroud seemed to be addicted to the deep ball in 2024, despite the fact that his OL couldn't provide him protection to make the deep field reads.  Slowik didn't/couldn't put his foot down to make Stroud change his read order, resulting in Stroud holding the ball way too long.  I consider a third of those sacks were on Stroud himself.  In addition, Slowik couldn't solve the OL problem throughout the year. 

Don't forget that the "slump" is a temporary/one-year thing.  If it wasn't it would be called a bust.  I'm excited to see what the new OC can do with Stroud in his 3rd year.  I still have tons of faith that Stroud is the guy, he has that "IT" factor, and he went 9-8 with a first place schedule, so the team as a whole was better in 2024.  If the offense can come back the Texans will be a legitimate threat in the AFC, because the Texans defense is already playing championship ball in their 2nd year under Demeco.

Maybe there’s something to your first point, but you don’t fire a perceived “good” OC due to lack of talent along the O-line.  If you do, then the person making that decision is also a problem.  Is the O-Line coach also expected to be fired?  Thats the move I’d be looking for if enough juice wasn’t be squeezed out of the position group.  I wouldn’t pile on to Slowik to justify the move is all.

Slowik’s firing was a surprise to me and probably most others outside of tinhorn land.  Were you, having watched all of their games, surprised by the move as well?  Were you or a significant contingent of other tinhorn fans grumbling during the season that Slowik was consistently calling bad plays or otherwise holding the offense back?

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LOL, Stroud sure was lucky for 19 games in the 2023 season.  So lucky he put up multiple NFL records...  The truth is that Stroud seemed to be addicted to the deep ball in 2024, despite the fact that his OL couldn't provide him protection to make the deep field reads.  Slowik didn't/couldn't put his foot down to make Stroud change his read order, resulting in Stroud holding the ball way too long.  I consider a third of those sacks were on Stroud himself.  In addition, Slowik couldn't solve the OL problem throughout the year. 

Don't forget that the "slump" is a temporary/one-year thing.  If it wasn't it would be called a bust.  I'm excited to see what the new OC can do with Stroud in his 3rd year.  I still have tons of faith that Stroud is the guy, he has that "IT" factor, and he went 9-8 with a first place schedule, so the team as a whole was better in 2024.  If the offense can come back the Texans will be a legitimate threat in the AFC, because the Texans defense is already playing championship ball in their 2nd year under Demeco.

Maybe there’s something to your first point, but you don’t fire a perceived “good” OC due to lack of talent along the O-line.  If you do, then the person making that decision is also a problem.  Is the O-Line coach also expected to be fired?  Thats the move I’d be looking for if enough juice wasn’t be squeezed out of the position group.  I wouldn’t pile on to Slowik to justify the move is all.

Slowik’s firing was a surprise to me and probably most others outside of tinhorn land.  Were you, having watched all of their games, surprised by the move as well?  Were you or a significant contingent of other tinhorn fans grumbling during the season that Slowik was consistently calling bad plays or otherwise holding the offense back?

The O-Line coach was fired at the same time.  If you look at the investment already put into the Oline there is a lot of resources already put in there:  LT Tunsil (traded 2 firsts to get him,) 1st round pick on LG Kenyon Green (who appears to be a bust), 2nd round pick on C Juice Scruggs, RG Shaq Mason (4th round pick, and traded for a significant contract 3yrs 36M,)  Tytus Howard (1st round pick,) and finally (swing-tackle) Blake Fisher (2nd round.)  So the question becomes how did that line that was healthy for almost the entire the year, completely under-perform the 2023 line that set a record for most injuries for an OL (literally the most injured line since they started recording that stat.)

So to answer your question, you have to look at what happened throughout the year.  First you HAVE to get rid of the OL coach, which they did, but probably should have happened during the season.  But then you start looking at the play calls.  At some point Slowik has to take accountability, and accept the fact that the line was shaky at best when calling plays.  The same knuckleheaded play calls that had a non-blocking TE try to take on a DE and getting destroyed, watching the line completely confused every time the Dline called a stunt, and above all not changing the offense to a quick-passing style to defeat the pass-rush.  What was confounding is that when the quick-passing offense was called the Texans marched down the field...only to give up on that style for the rest of the game.

So to answer your second question, I was 50/50 on keeping Slowik, and yes I and other fans were certainly grumbling.  I thought if he had a third season (Slowik's new to his position as well) he might have adjusted if a new Oline coach could have sorted out the line.  But the fact that it took the offense SO long to adjust was a huge negative.

Like I said in the first post, Stroud needs someone to step on his toes.  It's human nature to some extent, Stroud was called the second-coming in his first year (me included) and took on way more than a 2nd year QB should.  Slowik simply couldn't put Stroud in check and have him give up on his deep reads in time to hit his mid and short options.  Whether this is the right move all comes down to the success of Slowik's replacement.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.