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Jaguars statement on inequality
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(09-30-2017, 11:24 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:I don't have a problem with anyone of it but yeah it probably could have been avoided if the NFL was a bit smarter.(09-30-2017, 11:13 PM)JackCity Wrote: Hate to say it but Trump really led the NFL on a merry dance. Actually in my eyes the national anthem before every game should be ditched altogether. Maybe for the playoffs and super bowl but no need for every game. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Wanna talk about real social injustice? Visit a Native American Reservation. Those people have every reason in the world to whine and complain, but you never hear a peep out of them unless we try to run a pipeline through their ancestral homeland. It's land that was promised to them via the Treaty of Fort Laramie and surprise, surprise, was taken back and set aside for private use. Native Americans have always been repressed by this country, but it's everyone else that wants to complain about their own conditions. How ironic.
(09-30-2017, 10:50 PM)hb1148 Wrote:(09-30-2017, 10:38 PM)EricC85 Wrote: Statistics say violence isn't disproportional against blacks, You have to accept perception over verifiable proof to accept that premise. Blaming the victim? Horse carp. Oonly 27% of black kids are in two parent homes. That's the leading cause of crime, violence, lack of social mobility etc. Etc. Any conversation on CHANGE that doesn't begin and end there is wasting our time.
I'm I wrong for not caring about corporate songs?
Am I the only watching this poorly scripted game being constructed in a sad attempt to get people to care again? (10-01-2017, 10:10 AM)Jaguarrior Wrote: Am I wrong for not caring about corporate songs?
(10-01-2017, 12:49 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Wanna talk about real social injustice? Visit a Native American Reservation. Those people have every reason in the world to whine and complain, but you never hear a peep out of them unless we try to run a pipeline through their ancestral homeland. It's land that was promised to them via the Treaty of Fort Laramie and surprise, surprise, was taken back and set aside for private use. Native Americans have always been repressed by this country, but it's everyone else that wants to complain about their own conditions. How ironic. Upvoted for truth. (10-01-2017, 10:10 AM)Jaguarrior Wrote: I'm I wrong for not caring about corporate songs? This is the second thread you mentioned corporate song and even quoted yourself to say it twice here. We'll go on, explain the corporate song angle to us. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
I just don't get why people are up in arms about a song dedicated to a corporation. Especially one rooted in hate and bigotry. I mean it propaganda. Chill out youngin's.
Besides, none of these guys care either way. Their just trying to get paid baby. It's like lions laying with sheep around this piece.
I will not watch these guys today. Why, well see below
Until they cease using the national anthem to push their opinions on social issues I will boycott these guys. Actors and athletes alike should understand they need us not the other way around.We are as intelligent and in most cases more. Carrying a football, blocking, tackling people really doesn't add real value to people's lives. Farmers, truck drivers, the clerk at the store. They should be thankful we pay our hard earned money and spend our valuable time on their sport. We are the customers and they all owe us a very large apology. Such self centered people. (players commentators,owners, the entire NFL organization) Their mothers would be ashamed on them.
A new broom always sweeps clean.
Come on man.. Keep that crap in its appropriate place.
We should be able to walk away from politics when we need to, that includes this forum..
I've more or less lost the ability to care. It's turned from a protest about inequality into a sideshow about giving Trump the finger. The best answer at this point is to just leave teams in the locker room until after the anthem.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-01-2017, 10:32 AM)Jag149 Wrote: I will not watch these guys today. Why, well see below If you have Sunday NFL Ticket, can I borrow your login information then to watch the game? I'm out of market so I can't watch, thanks.
(10-01-2017, 12:49 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Wanna talk about real social injustice? Visit a Native American Reservation. Those people have every reason in the world to whine and complain, but you never hear a peep out of them unless we try to run a pipeline through their ancestral homeland. It's land that was promised to them via the Treaty of Fort Laramie and surprise, surprise, was taken back and set aside for private use. Native Americans have always been repressed by this country, but it's everyone else that wants to complain about their own conditions. How ironic. The whole idea of a reservation is long outdated. There's no reason American Indians shouldn't just blend in with the rest of the citizenry. It's not like they are still preserving some pre-European culture (casinos, cough cough). The logical thing would be to give every person on a reservation an equal fraction of the land and other assets and let them individually do what they want, dissolving the reservation. I suspect the tribal leaders are the ones who benefit from the status quo and are opposed to it. BTW, the Dakota pipeline was not routed through Indian land. The accusation was that it was routed through an old Indian burial ground on non-reservation land. Since there was already an existing pipeline there, that ship had sailed for everyone but the environmental activists opposed to every pipeline. They were just using American Indians in this case. "Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"
(10-01-2017, 10:32 AM)Jag149 Wrote: I will not watch these guys today. Why, well see below You tell'em. You're doing a great job. keep up the good work. (10-01-2017, 10:40 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:(10-01-2017, 12:49 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Wanna talk about real social injustice? Visit a Native American Reservation. Those people have every reason in the world to whine and complain, but you never hear a peep out of them unless we try to run a pipeline through their ancestral homeland. It's land that was promised to them via the Treaty of Fort Laramie and surprise, surprise, was taken back and set aside for private use. Native Americans have always been repressed by this country, but it's everyone else that wants to complain about their own conditions. How ironic. The Dakota pipeline is a special kind of clusterfrag all around. Using it as an example of anything is dubious at best, because both sides were right and both sides were very wrong. I can understand the concept of a reservation and why we still have it. Native Americans are essentially holding on to semi-sovereign powers over what little land they have left. I wouldn't be in favor of disbanding them, as I'm sure many Native Americans wouldn't either, but I do think they could stand to integrate more with the communities around them (if there are any). We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-01-2017, 10:32 AM)Jag149 Wrote: I will not watch these guys today. Why, well see below They owe you sweet [BLEEP] all.
(09-30-2017, 10:50 PM)hb1148 Wrote:(09-30-2017, 10:38 PM)EricC85 Wrote: Statistics say violence isn't disproportional against blacks, You have to accept perception over verifiable proof to accept that premise. What statistics are you talking about? If you're talking about the percentage of those killed by police compared to their percentage of total population doesn't equate the number of violent felonies committed or their number of encounters with law enforcement. (10-01-2017, 10:32 AM)Jag149 Wrote: I will not watch these guys today. Why, well see belowThey're so self centered that they donated millions of dollars to hurricane relief. They do more for their communities than you or I. They go visit children in the hospitals all the time. But yea.... They're so self centered.
I was watching as they panned the crowds during the anthem. As usual, a few singing, most standing quietly, many with hands over their hearts, but more than a few showing their usual disinterest and impatience for the game to begin.
But yeah, they are all passionate patriots ready to boycott the game they love because teams react to criticism of one of their own. It was a matter worthy of debate but only a minor distraction in the big scheme of things until the Distractor-in-Chief chimed in.
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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(09-30-2017, 10:02 PM)EricC85 Wrote: LOL there never has been a more equal society on the face of the earth. What exactly are these great social injustices were supposed to be kneeling for change? Nobody said players are supposed to kneel for change. It is just what they do to raise awareness. Now teams are expressing unity by linking arms instead, making it look better to all the people who thought kneeling is disrespecting the U.S. flag and military. An "equal society" does not exist anywhere on Earth, including the United States. (10-02-2017, 06:40 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote:(09-30-2017, 10:02 PM)EricC85 Wrote: LOL there never has been a more equal society on the face of the earth. What exactly are these great social injustices were supposed to be kneeling for change? I said it's the most equal society in the history of man kind. Everyone has a legal right to the same opportunities that's the best anyone can do. There will never be equall success or wealth, that's my problem with the "protest for unity" I don't care if they're standing, kneeling, linking arms, or anything else, they're protesting a perception that isn't reality and can't ever be satisfied. It goes along with the protest just to protest mentality we seem stuck in right now. it's the cause I take issue with not the action.
(09-30-2017, 11:12 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: I'm not sure why you think opportunity is less for blacks, there are laws that mandate diversity, even ahead of ability. Asian Americans are hugely discriminated against in college admissions just to keep the diversity levels similar to their proportion in the general population. Here is something you don't realize: It is not just "Black people have jobs." What jobs do they have? I have had many black cab drivers. I had black coworkers at entry level jobs. Are black people just as likely as whites to get jobs that require college degrees (and I mean actually being employed, not just getting the degree) or are they mostly making low wages? Show me statistics on racial profiles for Americans who are in poverty because they can't get high-paying jobs while whites in the same areas are affluent. I don't know any numbers, but it is common knowledge that many cities are like this. |
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