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Will Jags pursue Tyrod Taylor?


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(11-15-2017, 06:22 PM)JagJohn Wrote: Taylor has just been benched in Buffalo, making the chances of him returning next year pretty slim. Obviously this all depends on how Bortles performs for the rest of the year, but I think there's a strong chance that we would be interested in the off season.

He's a guy with a low turnover rate, great mobility, and the ability to throw it deep, all attributes that our FO is clearly looking for...

Sunday proved that Tyrod is who the Bills thought he was, a guy not capable of getting a team to the promised land. 

We'll be picking late in the first so I doubt we will find a QB that is NFL ready that late in the draft. So unless we trade up or stick with Bortles, we have to go after someone. 

I like Cousins but I don't think he's worth 20 million a year. Brees won't leave NO. I don't think Keenum is for real. Eli is a turnover machine and old. Tyrod has shown to be nothing special. 

Alex Smith might just make enough throws and plays for us to get somewhere with him though. He doesn't lose you a lot of games but he will still demand a hefty price.
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Tyrod was working with garbage at WR and going against the best defense in the league, a near historically good one in their own house. It's hardly fair to judge him on that game. I think he's perfectly fine to bring in as a guy who can compete for a starting spot or hold the place for a rookie.
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Tyrod and Blake are both top 20 Qbs in the league.
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(01-10-2018, 11:36 PM)JNev Wrote: Tyrod was working with garbage at WR and going against the best defense in the league, a near historically good one in their own house. It's hardly fair to judge him on that game. I think he's perfectly fine to bring in as a guy who can compete for a starting spot or hold the place for a rookie.

You can judge him on his career.  He is not a good QB.  There is a reason Buf. is looking for a franchise QB because Taylor isnt one.  Taylor is a quality backup but not starter material.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...anchise-qb
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(01-10-2018, 11:36 PM)JNev Wrote: Tyrod was working with garbage at WR and going against the best defense in the league, a near historically good one in their own house. It's hardly fair to judge him on that game. I think he's perfectly fine to bring in as a guy who can compete for a starting spot or hold the place for a rookie.

Taylor could have the best receivers in the league and he’d still be pedestrian on a good day. The guy is a check down machine.
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(01-12-2018, 06:52 PM)FBT Wrote:
(01-10-2018, 11:36 PM)JNev Wrote: Tyrod was working with garbage at WR and going against the best defense in the league, a near historically good one in their own house. It's hardly fair to judge him on that game. I think he's perfectly fine to bring in as a guy who can compete for a starting spot or hold the place for a rookie.

Taylor could have the best receivers in the league and he’d still be pedestrian on a good day. The guy is a check down machine.

What about the year he was a top 3 deep passer and led the league in deep ball attempts %.
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(01-12-2018, 07:02 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(01-12-2018, 06:52 PM)FBT Wrote: Taylor could have the best receivers in the league and he’d still be pedestrian on a good day. The guy is a check down machine.

What about the year he was a top 3 deep passer and led the league in deep ball attempts %.

It’s about what he’s done lately.  He’s not an answer for this team at QB.
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(01-12-2018, 07:24 PM)FBT Wrote:
(01-12-2018, 07:02 PM)JackCity Wrote: What about the year he was a top 3 deep passer and led the league in deep ball attempts %.

It’s about what he’s done lately.  He’s not an answer for this team at QB.

The implication is that his skillset can be put to better use than checking down in a west coast scheme that doesn't suit him at all. Bad scheme fit and bottom 5 receiving corp.

And yes at the moment he's a spot starter/quality backup in the NFLs eyes but has the ability and skillset to start for the right team.
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(This post was last modified: 01-12-2018, 08:34 PM by Upper.)

When he's healthy Tyrod would do what our offense wants to do better than Bortles, but his health is enough of a worry that I don't really care either way.

Also, Tyrod did have to deal with probably the worst group of WRs in the league. By far the worst separation in the league according to NextGenStats (Bortles didn't get much help either).

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Both are midling to lower tier QBs. If we are going to make an upgrade I'd rather it be more significant. Otherwise draft early and let bort roll out there on his option and groom your guy for a year.
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(01-13-2018, 07:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Both are midling to lower tier QBs. If we are going to make an upgrade I'd rather it be more significant. Otherwise draft early and let bort roll out there on his option and groom your guy for a year.

Amen!
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(01-13-2018, 07:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Both are midling to lower tier QBs. If we are going to make an upgrade I'd rather it be more significant. Otherwise draft early and let bort roll out there on his option and groom your guy for a year.

Unless we break the bank on Cousins an early (hopefully trade up in the 1st) QB needs to be a main priority no matter who the QB is.
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The argument isn't Tyrod Vs a significant upgrade. Of course a legit franchise QB should be the main aim.

The argument is simply that Tyrod is a startable QB option for us.
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(01-13-2018, 12:30 PM)Upper Wrote:
(01-13-2018, 07:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Both are midling to lower tier QBs. If we are going to make an upgrade I'd rather it be more significant. Otherwise draft early and let bort roll out there on his option and groom your guy for a year.

Unless we break the bank on Cousins an early (hopefully trade up in the 1st) QB needs to be a main priority no matter who the QB is.

Someone else is going to throw Ft. Knox at Cousins. I think our defense gives us the luxury, as wacky as this sounds, of not needing to sign the most expensive QB in NFL history, and I do think his contract in FA could get up there.

If Blake definitely is not the guy, and I'm still not 100% convinced one way or the other, I think this team is best served by drafting a QB in the first or (more likely) second round, letting him sit behind Eli Manning for a year or two, then turning him loose. I wouldn't complain if we did land a guy like Cousins, but I also wouldn't throw the entire GDP of a Central American republic at him.
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(01-13-2018, 12:30 PM)Upper Wrote:
(01-13-2018, 07:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Both are midling to lower tier QBs. If we are going to make an upgrade I'd rather it be more significant. Otherwise draft early and let bort roll out there on his option and groom your guy for a year.

Unless we break the bank on Cousins an early (hopefully trade up in the 1st) QB needs to be a main priority no matter who the QB is.

We shouldn't break the bank on an average QB like Cousins, but trading up and selecting the QB of our choice in the draft, is something that definitely needs to be an option.
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By every objective measure Cousins is well above average.
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(01-13-2018, 02:23 PM)Upper Wrote: By every objective measure Cousins is well above average.

14th in quarterback rating. So above average but not "well above."



                                                                          

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(01-13-2018, 03:22 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
(01-13-2018, 02:23 PM)Upper Wrote: By every objective measure Cousins is well above average.

14th in quarterback rating. So above average but not "well above."
What's his rating over the last 3 years ?
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(01-13-2018, 03:22 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
(01-13-2018, 02:23 PM)Upper Wrote: By every objective measure Cousins is well above average.

14th in quarterback rating. So above average but not "well above."

Sorry QBR gets utterly trashed around here so regularly that I didn't bother to look up that one. I look at ANY/A, YPA, comp %, TD%, INT%, sack %, and passer rating. And the + versions of those.
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