If Arob knows we are serious about keeping him it makes all the sense in the world for him to wait it out..

There is always that chance of injury and he know that first hand after last year.  If he has a chance to get 30 mil + guaranteed it might be in his best interest.

No as in the longer he waits he to sign a contract the more money he makes from us. Makes perfect sense for his side to wait as long as possible. Negotiations should go all the way up to Monday if they are smart about.

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I’d like to own Hawaii.  But unfortunately, there is often a limit and choosing one thing may preclude you from choosing another.

So if we sign Robinson, we won't be able to also sign Pugh? Or draft Hernandez?

I'm sure you're not saying we should sign him "at any cost."  Are you?  

We have to sign him to a contract that allows us to do all or most of the other things we'd like to do.  $16 million is the franchise tag.  I'm starting to think, maybe we let him walk at that level, and use that money for other desirable things.  

So, sign him?  Sure.  But doesn't it depend on the cost?  Can we do Robinson, and Colvin, and Pugh?  I doubt it.  Sure, we can draft Hernandez, but what if we don't sign Colvin, and there's a nice CB/NB sitting there when it's the 29th pick?  Do we still draft Hernandez? 

Spending money means making choices.

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So if we sign Robinson, we won't be able to also sign Pugh? Or draft Hernandez?

I'm sure you're not saying we should sign him "at any cost."  Are you?  

We have to sign him to a contract that allows us to do all or most of the other things we'd like to do.  $16 million is the franchise tag.  I'm starting to think, maybe we let him walk at that level, and use that money for other desirable things.  

So, sign him?  Sure.  But doesn't it depend on the cost?  Can we do Robinson, and Colvin, and Pugh?  I doubt it.  Sure, we can draft Hernandez, but what if we don't sign Colvin, and there's a nice CB/NB sitting there when it's the 29th pick?  Do we still draft Hernandez? 

Spending money means making choices.

Caldwell has stated that they have enough money to sign both Colvin and Robinson. I would rather have both of them back than attempt to sign Norwell and Pugh. Norwell is most likely going to get all time high guard money. I do think the Jags can sign ARob, Colvin and Pugh.

I don't want Robinson back at 16 million so I'm hoping they work out a deal like Devante Adams.

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So if we sign Robinson, we won't be able to also sign Pugh? Or draft Hernandez?

I'm sure you're not saying we should sign him "at any cost."  Are you?  

We have to sign him to a contract that allows us to do all or most of the other things we'd like to do.  $16 million is the franchise tag.  I'm starting to think, maybe we let him walk at that level, and use that money for other desirable things.  

So, sign him?  Sure.  But doesn't it depend on the cost?  Can we do Robinson, and Colvin, and Pugh?  I doubt it.  Sure, we can draft Hernandez, but what if we don't sign Colvin, and there's a nice CB/NB sitting there when it's the 29th pick?  Do we still draft Hernandez? 

Spending money means making choices.

 
Nuk Hopkins signed a deal two years ago averaging $16.2 mil. I personally don't have any qualms spending that much on ARob.

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So O’Halloran just said on 1010xl that the chances we sign ARob is below 50%

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

So O’Halloran just said on 1010xl that the chances we sign ARob is below 50%

Wow. I hope he’s wrong.

I don’t want to start next season with Lee as the #1.

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So O’Halloran just said on 1010xl that the chances we sign ARob is below 50%

Wow. I hope he’s wrong.

I don’t want to start next season with Lee as the #1.

Lee won't get resigned

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If we don't resign Robinson this would be a huge failure going into next year. We need a game changer at WR and he's the only one available that's shown that. Cut Hurns if u need more room. I'll take Arob for double what Hurns is making easily.

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If we don't resign Robinson this would be a huge failure going into next year. We need a game changer at WR and he's the only one available that's shown that. Cut Hurns if u need more room. I'll take Arob for double what Hurns is making easily.

If Hurns is cut, it'll be relatively soon because when March 16th comes around he is guaranteed 4M of his salary. So we will have our answer soon.

I found interesting that Oesher was saying he believes Arob would absolutely not play for the tag. Why would he say that?

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It’s hard to know what to believe at the moment. The same people saying today that ARob could go and that Colvin might stay are the same ones who were saying the opposite a fortnight ago.

I think that I’d be more annoyed that another team is stealing ARob from under our noses than at the thought he’s leaving the Jags.


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My thinking is that Caldwell's comments are nothing more than a negotiating tactic. We'll see what the team comes up with, but I fully expect to see Robinson back on the field with this team when the season begins. Marrone just said yesterday that the tag was still an option, and that discussions were ongoing. I just don't see Robinson being allowed to hit free agency. If the team loses him, they're going to want compensation, so it seems likely that he'll be tagged. They've been making moves to clear cap space over the past several days. If they're not going after a free agent QB, I believe this is an indication they're preparing to deal with extensions for both Robinson and Colvin.

The bottom line; don't read too much into anything the front office is saying this time of year.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Hopefully he is differentiating between signed and tagged. I have said I'd be surprised with anything except a franchise tag on him, so I agree it's well under 50% we sign him before the deadline.

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With or without him our WRs are going to look better than last year. Either through Free agency, the draft or our returning WRs being more experienced.
Obviously would like to keep ARob though

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Caldwell's comments were somewhat telling that he's only going to go so high.

I figure ARob is a top-five WR in this league and will want just compensation. When I learned that Nuk Hopkins is already on a deal averaging $16.2 mil, I starting thinking that AROb might be looking for a 4-year, $65 mil deal that would average $16.25 mil. Well, Caldwell is clearly saying he feels the $16 mil franchise value is too much for ARob for one season which suggests to me he's nowhere near thinking this much.

Before looking at recent huge WR contracts I had been thinking he'd sign for 4-years, $50 mil which is a far more reasonable $12.5 mil per, but I just keep thinking he's shopping himself if that's all we offer.  An offer of 4-years, $55 mil makes sense to me as that's $13.75 mil and roughly equals the projected number for the transition tag suggesting he's a top 10 WR, however, we just talked about other recent deals where top WRs signed for 4-years, $58 mi and 4-years, $60 mil, and he could make a good argument that he's just as good as those players.

Hearing Caldwell suggests that $16 mil per is way too much for ARob tells me that he doesn't view ARob as being quite as elite as  I tend to think he is.  It looks like the Colts are going all out for ARob if we pass wherein we might as well expect for Luck to end up throwing to TY and ARob this season.
 

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How do you figure he is a top 5 receiver? He was average at best in 2016 and didn't play this past season. His whole aura is dependent on 2015.

I want to keep ARob, but it is not unreasonable to think there are questions about his ability going forward. It is rational to presume that there is a limit to the type of deal he may get. I personally don't think he should get Top 5 money. If the Jags do, that's fine. But, if they let him walk, I get it.

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The WR position is the most underrated position in this class imo. A number of guys have the potential to be a number 1 WR, you just have to pick the right one and a much risker pick than one of Will Hernandez or a Dallas Goedert

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They wont consider the tag IMO. A decision I would agree with. Even if it means him being gone.

If A-Rob won't agree to a reasonable long term deal I believe he hits free agency. If he hits free agency, he will be gone. Someone will cough up stupid cash for his one year history of success.

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

Josh Gordon>>>Allen Robinson

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They wont consider the tag IMO. A decision I would agree with. Even if it means him being gone.

If A-Rob won't agree to a reasonable long term deal I believe he hits free agency. If he hits free agency, he will be gone. Someone will cough up stupid cash for his one year history of success.

I still think the transition tag is still in play. It’s a risk but if some team wants to play him like a top 5 WR based on 1 great year and and a couple of average ones then they can have them.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Just to play the devils advocate, the teams knows more than anyone on this board.

Maybe his health is a concern and just maybe his agent is being too greedy. We are going to find out real soon.

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