How long do you think it takes to put on a vest and helmet? Literally takes seconds. Was he wearing something else?

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We have multiple areas where radio reception is broken or nothing at all.

Our radios are outdated and they are trying to get that corrected but it would not be out of the question here.

Maybe other departments are different but the comment that police have the very best communication available is not true in all areas.

Yeah it really isn’t all that uncommon to have specific locations where they don’t work at all. Especially in or around large buildings like it sounds like the school has.

We had a big fancy casino built in our county along with several new condos in the area of the casino.  Step 3 feet into any of those buildings and you aren't likely to get any radio traffic in or out. 

Welp, here's the official stand down order:
Broward County deputies were ordered to form a perimeter.  Capt. Jan Jordan, commander of BSO’s Parkland district, gave the order, the log shows.

Here is the timeline of events as given by the Broward County Sheriffs Dept and a few comments I added:

2:06 pm Uber picks up suspect.

2:19 pm Uber drops off suspect at Stoneman Douglas High School.

2:21:18 pm Suspect enters East stairwell of Building 12 with rifle inside a black, soft rifle case.

2:21:30 pm Suspect exits stairwell with rifle removed from the rifle case.
                               
2:21:33 pm Suspect has rifle ready and begins shooting into four rooms and then returns to two of the rooms.
                               
Suspect then takes West stairwell to 2nd floor and shoots victims in another room.

2:24:39 pm Suspect takes the East stairwell to the 3rd floor.

2:27:37pm Suspect enters 3rd floor stairwell, drops rifle and backpack and runs down the stairs.
                                       
2:28:35 pm Suspect exits Building 12 and runs west towards the tennis courts and then heads south.

2:29:51 pm Suspect crosses field and runs west with others who are fleeing the area.

2:50 pm Suspect arrives at the Walmart, enters the store and buys a drink at the Subway (a fast food store), then leaves on foot.

3:01 pm Suspect goes to McDonalds, sits down for a short time, and then leaves on foot.

3:41 pm Suspect is detained by police officers in Coral Springs, FL, where he is positively identified and taken into custody.

Note that there is not time for Cruz to put on any body armor.  He fires his first shots only 15 seconds after entering the building with the rifle still cased.  Yet the teacher who came face to face with the shooter said she thought he was a cop because of all the protective gear he was wearing.  Helmet, goggles and full body armor.  Did the teacher lie?  Are all the people who reported multiple shooters lying?  The girl who was walking out with Cruz while shots were being fired inside, was she lying?

It is possible that they didn't lie but that their account of the events isn't exactly what happened.  That is a high stress moment for anyone involved and that can effect a person's recollection of an event.

Throwing on a helmet and vest doesn't take long.

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If he was wearing tactical gear then the investigators should have it on hand as evidence and surveillance. Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things.

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Kevin Ralph Hogg, former FBI agent and Navy pilot, is employed by defense contractor Cubic Simulation Systems in Pompano Beach.  

Cubic Simulation Systems produces a shooter-training system for law enforcement.

Why didn't David Hogg tell us his Dad works at a place that does shooter training and simulations?

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If he was wearing tactical gear then the investigators should have it on hand as evidence and surveillance. Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things.

2:27:37pm Suspect enters 3rd floor stairwell, drops rifle and backpack and runs down the stairs.

The timeline says nothing about any tactical gear.  I would say it matters quite a lot if eyewitnesses say the shooter was wearing a full tactical rig and Nikolas Cruz had no such gear.

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And some of you claim the left is crazy.....

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And some of you claim the left is crazy.....

I’m not sure his opinion reflect even a small percentage of people on the right.

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And some of you claim the left is crazy.....

I’m not sure his opinion reflect even a small percentage of people on the right.

The same statement can be said about the left.....

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And some of you claim the left is crazy.....

I’m not sure his opinion reflect even a small percentage of people on the right.

Seems like neither of you are paying attention, but that is par for the course in today's America. I have offered various facts and asked various questions, but posted very few opinions regarding this matter.

My standard "opinion" is that citizens who care about their rights should closely examine any events which are used to take away those rights. I am aware of history. I am aware that school shootings were the "tools" used to disarm the British and Australians. I am aware that registration of firearms had led to confiscation of firearms in example after example. I'm aware a disarmed populace historically gets slaughtered by the tens of millions. I know it is legal for the federal government to run psychological operations against the American people. I know it has happened before and will certainly happen again. I know there are several companies who do nothing but provide personnel and technical support for disaster simulations and drills. On the websites of these companies they claim many of their crisis actors have high level security clearance and all are operating under non-disclosure agreements.

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I’m not sure his opinion reflect even a small percentage of people on the right.

Seems like neither of you are paying attention, but that is par for the course in today's America.  I have offered various facts and asked various questions, but posted very few opinions regarding this matter.  

My standard "opinion" is that citizens who care about their rights should closely examine any events which are used to take away those rights.  I am aware of history.  I am aware that school shootings were the "tools" used to disarm the British and Australians.  I am aware that registration of firearms had led to confiscation of firearms in example after example.  I'm aware a disarmed populace historically gets slaughtered by the tens of millions.  I know it is legal for the federal government to run psychological operations against the American people.  I know it has happened before and will certainly happen again.  I know there are several companies who do nothing but provide personnel and technical support for disaster simulations and drills.  On the websites of these companies they claim many of their crisis actors have high level security clearance and all are operating under non-disclosure agreements.

You're blending opinions with facts.

The timestamps are facts. You saying he doesn't have time to put on body armor is an opinion. 

You saying that having problems with radio transmissions is unusual is an opinion.

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You're blending opinions with facts.

The timestamps are facts. You saying he doesn't have time to put on body armor is an opinion. 

You saying that having problems with radio transmissions is unusual is an opinion.

I'm posting facts and also questioning the accuracy of some of the facts. I suppose we could do time/motion studies to determine if it's possible to transition from autistic teen with backpack to mass shooter in full metal body armor helmet and goggles, rifle in battery, while climbing a stairwell in 15 seconds or less. But we shouldn't have to. Our amazing public servants SRO Peterson and Sheriff Israel have hi-def footage from THREE angles of every stairwell and hallway in the school. But the Sheriff says showing us the footage would reveal too much about the school's "security systems".

As for the radios, the responders were not inside buildings and were not at the edges of the transmission area. This is the 2nd time in 2 years this same Sheriffs Department claimed the radios were down during a mass shooting. But the responding deputies apparently had no trouble receiving the radioed "stand down" order from captain Jan Jordan.

Edit: They also recently released some audio from the event, a few 911 calls apparently made from the school, and, incredibly, some recordings of radio transmissions from SRO Peterson, telling other responders to stay at least 500 feet away from Building 1200. So the radios worked fine when Jan Jordan told them to stand down and when Scot Peterson told them to stand down, but not any other time.

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The fact I can come here and not google conspiracy theories about the Parkland shooting saves me a bit of time.

Every mass shooting to you is a conspiracy...multiple people/kids die for what? The good of the left and what they are pushing?

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Many mass shooting are staged events. In almost every instance a drill or multiple drills were being run at the same time. In almost every instance, security protocols and standard emergency responses are completely ignored. In most of the cases the "shooter" does not survive, but in a few cases like Charlottesville, Parkland and Charleston, SC the patsy survives but is spirited away and the public has no access. Today I read Cruz actually plead "not guilty" last month and his lawyers withdrew the "not guilty" plea, instead saying Cruz "stands mute". His lawyers reiterate that he did it, and say they felt a not guilty plea "just seemed wrong." It almost seems like Nikolas' court-appointed attorneys are working for the State. Oh, right - they are.

The surest way to tell if it's a false flag is to just ignore the details of the event and concentrate instead on the media response. Sometimes the media barely reports a mass shooting if they can't make it fit one of their standard anti-gun or anti-conservative narratives. Other times it's wall-to-wall 24/7 coverage and immediate calls from all the usual Marxists that we must "have a conversation" about guns. We never get to "have a conversation" about incompetent or complicit school officials, local police or federal investigators dropping the ball. We never "have a conversation" about the dangerous anti-depressent drugs which almost every mass shooter is taking. Nope, and the "conversation" about guns only lasts until the gun-grabber wet dream legislation can be introduced.

So basically, if legislation is quickly rammed through after an event, it was a false flag. If the police response was criminally incompetent, it was a false flag. If the crime scene is quickly condemned and destroyed, it was a false flag. If there's a large payout for participants, victims and families, it was a false flag.

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The fact I  can come here and not google conspiracy theories about the Parkland shooting saves me a bit of time.

Every mass shooting to you is a conspiracy...multiple people/kids die for what?  The good of the left and what they are pushing?

Alinsky knows the way.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The Miami Herald has a more complete timeline which includes the movements of Cruz as well as Peterson and other responders.  The story is behind a pay wall.  Here's a few relevant items:

At 2:27 p.m., six minutes after Cruz went into Building 12, the shooting stopped. Cruz ditched his AR-15 in the third-floor stairwell and left.

Five seconds later, Peterson radioed for officers to “stay at least 500 feet away at this point.” A dispatcher repeated, “Stay away from 12 and 1300 building.”

Coral Springs officer Tim Burton had just arrived at Douglas High. At 2:28 p.m., he radioed out the first description of Cruz: “White male with ROTC Uniform Burgundy Shirt” — exactly what the shooter was wearing when he was arrested later. How Burton obtained the information was unclear from the timeline.

MY COMMENTS:
No mention of body armor in the stairwell.  No problem with radios - the timeline contains a ton of radio traffic.  Most interesting is that 1 minute after Cruz left the building, a responding officer from a different police agency had a description of him?  Who told "Tim Burton" these things?

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This teacher says he was face to face with the shooter but did not recognize him because the shooter wore a mask:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAN4g66RFug

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Many mass shooting are staged events.  In almost every instance a drill or multiple drills were being run at the same time.  In almost every instance, security protocols and standard emergency responses are completely ignored.  In most of the cases the "shooter" does not survive, but in a few cases like Charlottesville, Parkland and Charleston, SC the patsy survives but is spirited away and the public has no access.  Today I read Cruz actually plead "not guilty" last month and his lawyers withdrew the "not guilty" plea, instead saying Cruz "stands mute".  His lawyers reiterate that he did it, and say they felt a not guilty plea "just seemed wrong."  It almost seems like Nikolas' court-appointed attorneys are working for the State.  Oh, right - they are.

The surest way to tell if it's a false flag is to just ignore the details of the event and concentrate instead on the media response.  Sometimes the media barely reports a mass shooting if they can't make it fit one of their standard anti-gun or anti-conservative narratives.  Other times it's wall-to-wall 24/7 coverage and immediate calls from all the usual Marxists that we must "have a conversation" about guns.  We never get to "have a conversation" about incompetent or complicit school officials, local police or federal investigators dropping the ball.  We never "have a conversation" about the dangerous anti-depressent drugs which almost every mass shooter is taking.  Nope, and the "conversation" about guns only lasts until the gun-grabber wet dream legislation can be introduced.  

So basically, if legislation is quickly rammed through after an event, it was a false flag.  If the police response was criminally incompetent, it was a false flag.  If the crime scene is quickly condemned and destroyed, it was a false flag.  If there's a large payout for participants, victims and families, it was a false flag.

Comedy gold! lol ... please, don't ever stop posting.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

Internet sleuths keep coming back to the "litterbug" video of the 4 men carrying gear bags out of the school to an unmarked pickup truck. Were they the real shooters? This analysis of video and sound clips claims that the shooter used an Israeli Tavor bullpup, not an AR-15 carbine. That would align with the eyewitness saying she had never seen the kind of rifle the shooter used. And it would fit with this video of a bald man carrying a very short-barreled rifle out of the school.

http://itshappening.pcriot.com/2018/03/0...or-mossad/

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Internet sleuths keep coming back to the "litterbug" video of the 4 men carrying gear bags out of the school to an unmarked pickup truck.  Were they the real shooters?  This analysis of video and sound clips claims that the shooter used an Israeli Tavor bullpup, not an AR-15 carbine.  That would align with the eyewitness saying she had never seen the kind of rifle the shooter used.  And it would fit with this video of a bald man carrying a very short-barreled rifle out of the school.  

http://itshappening.pcriot.com/2018/03/0...or-mossad/

So, all that work posting just to blame the Jews?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Internet sleuths keep coming back to the "litterbug" video of the 4 men carrying gear bags out of the school to an unmarked pickup truck.  Were they the real shooters?  This analysis of video and sound clips claims that the shooter used an Israeli Tavor bullpup, not an AR-15 carbine.  That would align with the eyewitness saying she had never seen the kind of rifle the shooter used.  And it would fit with this video of a bald man carrying a very short-barreled rifle out of the school.  

http://itshappening.pcriot.com/2018/03/0...or-mossad/

So, all that work posting just to blame the Jews?

With the Alt-Right it's always the Jews.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.