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Leonard Fournette Out Indefinitely


(10-03-2018, 08:09 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 01:38 PM)paksat Wrote: told ya'll not to draft him

told ya'll taven bryant is another horrible pick

but ye neg away

I was an advocate for drafting Fournette but I may have been wrong.  Yes he had a 1,000 yards last year but on a 3.9 yards per carry average.  He was great early last year until the Injuries took a toll.   This year he is averaging an even worse 3.6 ypc.  I hope he gets over the injury bug but since it's been happening since college it's not promising.   

Taven has been mr. invisible.  I forgot he was on the team.

You guys are silly.
Taven is a back up currently. Getting like less than 20% of snaps.

And still getting pressures and highly graded in limited snaps.
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A rookie (Bryan) who has played 72 defensive line snaps in four weeks really can't be a disappointment unless he's killing drives with penalties.
He's not. But he is moving his guy off his spot and occasionally cluttering the pocket. He nearly got Darnold the other day but another Jag defender beat him by one step. Bryan will be fine. Whining about him right now is one of the dumber narratives I've seen here in some time.

For perspective, Campbell has 221 snaps thus far.
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(10-01-2018, 05:18 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: MRI showed no damage to the hamstring. I think the "indefinitely" tag is just because it could be 2 weeks or 5 weeks, who knows.

They should just let him sit until after the bye week to let that thing heal as best it can for the late season push.  Hamstrings are prone to linger, and the best option to rehab them is rest.  Let him get as much as possible so that he's around for the end of the season and any post season action.
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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(10-04-2018, 10:12 AM)Kane Wrote:
(10-03-2018, 08:09 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I was an advocate for drafting Fournette but I may have been wrong.  Yes he had a 1,000 yards last year but on a 3.9 yards per carry average.  He was great early last year until the Injuries took a toll.   This year he is averaging an even worse 3.6 ypc.  I hope he gets over the injury bug but since it's been happening since college it's not promising.   

Taven has been mr. invisible.  I forgot he was on the team.

You guys are silly.
Taven is a back up currently. Getting like less than 20% of snaps.

And still getting pressures and highly graded in limited snaps.

You have to take into consideration who is complaining, and weigh it against their entire body of posting work here.  

In this instance, the complaints should be taken with a grain of salt.  

TB is a backup.  He is playing behind great players, and he's getting enough exposure to learn the speed and complexity of the game.  A year from now, when the potential exists that at least one of the guys he's backing up is no longer on the roster, his limited exposure this year will hopefully pay big dividends.  He's pretty raw, but you can see the athletic ability there.  I think he'll be fine in the long run.  This expectation that he's an instant impact player is just typical nonsense from the we demand instant gratification generation. Patience is a lost art for them.
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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(10-04-2018, 08:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-03-2018, 08:09 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I was an advocate for drafting Fournette but I may have been wrong.  Yes he had a 1,000 yards last year but on a 3.9 yards per carry average.  He was great early last year until the Injuries took a toll.   This year he is averaging an even worse 3.6 ypc.  I hope he gets over the injury bug but since it's been happening since college it's not promising.   

Taven has been mr. invisible.  I forgot he was on the team.
You realize he's playing on the best DLine in football and he barely plays right? In the limited action he's seen, he's pushed the pocket back into the QB.

I do realize this but he doesn't have a stat on the sheet.  I'm not saying he is a bust because he is way too early but I honestly forgot about him.  He hasn't done anything yet and those are the facts.
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(10-03-2018, 06:38 PM)Jags02 Wrote:
(10-03-2018, 06:33 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: Did y’all know that we passed on Aaron Rodgers to draft Matt Jones? Draft mistakes happen all the time.


We also passed on Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson... the latter for a punter.

What's worse than all of these is passing on JJ Watt for Blaine Gabbert.

Also, we traded #16 to get #10 and the 16th pick was Ryan Kerrigan, DE Redskins. Ouch. Kerrigan has been a fine DE in the NFL for all these years.

I didn't understand the Bryan pick at the time but now that the cap situation is clearer, it looks like a pretty good pick.
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(10-04-2018, 12:05 PM)FBT Wrote:
(10-04-2018, 10:12 AM)Kane Wrote: You guys are silly.
Taven is a back up currently. Getting like less than 20% of snaps.

And still getting pressures and highly graded in limited snaps.

You have to take into consideration who is complaining, and weigh it against their entire body of posting work here.  

In this instance, the complaints should be taken with a grain of salt.  

TB is a backup.  He is playing behind great players, and he's getting enough exposure to learn the speed and complexity of the game.  A year from now, when the potential exists that at least one of the guys he's backing up is no longer on the roster, his limited exposure this year will hopefully pay big dividends.  He's pretty raw, but you can see the athletic ability there.  I think he'll be fine in the long run.  This expectation that he's an instant impact player is just typical nonsense from the we demand instant gratification generation.  Patience is a lost art for them.
Pot calling the kettle black eh?  Lets look at your posting history and how many times you have been wrong.  I would get carpel tunnel typing out the bs coming from this guy.  He has a history supporting losers on this team.  I think someone takes a dump in his cheerios every morning because almost every post reeks of pms.  Little guy I know you got beat up growing up but now you are a real keyboard hero.  Good job
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(10-04-2018, 10:14 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: A rookie (Bryan) who has played 72 defensive line snaps in four weeks really can't be a disappointment unless he's killing drives with penalties.
He's not. But he is moving his guy off his spot and occasionally cluttering the pocket. He nearly got Darnold the other day but another Jag defender beat him by one step.    Bryan will be fine. Whining about him right now is one of the dumber narratives I've seen here in some time.

For perspective, Campbell has 221 snaps thus far.


wake me up when taven becomes a 3rd of the player campbell is

almost all of his "production" when he was at florida his final year came against nobodies if I remember correct

that alone should have been a huge red flag

vs the real teams, he was invisible

(10-04-2018, 07:04 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(10-04-2018, 08:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: You realize he's playing on the best DLine in football and he barely plays right? In the limited action he's seen, he's pushed the pocket back into the QB.

I do realize this but he doesn't have a stat on the sheet.  I'm not saying he is a bust because he is way too early but I honestly forgot about him.  He hasn't done anything yet and those are the facts.

cold hard facts right there

72 snaps one of you said?

a big fat goose egg known as 0 on his stats
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(10-04-2018, 07:08 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(10-04-2018, 12:05 PM)FBT Wrote: You have to take into consideration who is complaining, and weigh it against their entire body of posting work here.  

In this instance, the complaints should be taken with a grain of salt.  

TB is a backup.  He is playing behind great players, and he's getting enough exposure to learn the speed and complexity of the game.  A year from now, when the potential exists that at least one of the guys he's backing up is no longer on the roster, his limited exposure this year will hopefully pay big dividends.  He's pretty raw, but you can see the athletic ability there.  I think he'll be fine in the long run.  This expectation that he's an instant impact player is just typical nonsense from the we demand instant gratification generation.  Patience is a lost art for them.
Pot calling the kettle black eh?  Lets look at your posting history and how many times you have been wrong.  I would get carpel tunnel typing out the bs coming from this guy.  He has a history supporting losers on this team.  I think someone takes a dump in his cheerios every morning because almost every post reeks of pms.  Little guy I know you got beat up growing up but now you are a real keyboard hero.  Good job

lollll yah this guy defended that bald headed dumb [BLEEP] we had for a head coach whom I won't even name for years when I called him out

to this day nothings changed, that beer bellied loser is still the worst coach in nfl history and FBT is still the worst poster on this board
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(10-05-2018, 03:17 PM)paksat Wrote:
(10-04-2018, 10:14 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: A rookie (Bryan) who has played 72 defensive line snaps in four weeks really can't be a disappointment unless he's killing drives with penalties.
He's not. But he is moving his guy off his spot and occasionally cluttering the pocket. He nearly got Darnold the other day but another Jag defender beat him by one step.    Bryan will be fine. Whining about him right now is one of the dumber narratives I've seen here in some time.

For perspective, Campbell has 221 snaps thus far.


wake me up when taven becomes a 3rd of the player campbell is

almost all of his "production" when he was at florida his final year came against nobodies if I remember correct

that alone should have been a huge red flag

vs the real teams, he was invisible

(10-04-2018, 07:04 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I do realize this but he doesn't have a stat on the sheet.  I'm not saying he is a bust because he is way too early but I honestly forgot about him.  He hasn't done anything yet and those are the facts.

cold hard facts right there

72 snaps one of you said?

a big fat goose egg known as 0 on his stats

Incorrect.
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(10-05-2018, 03:46 PM)Rico Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 03:17 PM)paksat Wrote: wake me up when taven becomes a 3rd of the player campbell is

almost all of his "production" when he was at florida his final year came against nobodies if I remember correct

that alone should have been a huge red flag

vs the real teams, he was invisible


cold hard facts right there

72 snaps one of you said?

a big fat goose egg known as 0 on his stats

Incorrect.

Don't just say incorrect.

what's his stats then?
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(10-05-2018, 03:17 PM)paksat Wrote:
(10-04-2018, 10:14 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: A rookie (Bryan) who has played 72 defensive line snaps in four weeks really can't be a disappointment unless he's killing drives with penalties.
He's not. But he is moving his guy off his spot and occasionally cluttering the pocket. He nearly got Darnold the other day but another Jag defender beat him by one step.    Bryan will be fine. Whining about him right now is one of the dumber narratives I've seen here in some time.

For perspective, Campbell has 221 snaps thus far.


wake me up when taven becomes a 3rd of the player campbell is

almost all of his "production" when he was at florida his final year came against nobodies if I remember correct

that alone should have been a huge red flag

vs the real teams, he was invisible

(10-04-2018, 07:04 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I do realize this but he doesn't have a stat on the sheet.  I'm not saying he is a bust because he is way too early but I honestly forgot about him.  He hasn't done anything yet and those are the facts.

cold hard facts right there

72 snaps one of you said?

a big fat goose egg known as 0 on his stats

You seem so confused about how his works, I’m sure nothing can be said to illustrate to you just how stupid your snap judgement of the rookie is. 

Enjoy the blissful ignorance.
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People are actually crying about a rookie, after his 4th game, playing behind a stacked DL?

Are you serious right now?
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(10-05-2018, 04:48 PM)Eric1 Wrote: People are actually crying about a rookie, after his 4th game, playing behind a stacked DL?

Are you serious right now?

Gotta dig deep, Eric.  There’s always something to moan about if you try hard enough.
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(10-05-2018, 04:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 04:48 PM)Eric1 Wrote: People are actually crying about a rookie, after his 4th game, playing behind a stacked DL?

Are you serious right now?

Gotta dig deep, Eric.  There’s always something to moan about if you try hard enough.

I mean at best, Bryan is probably what, the 7th guy on the DL depth chart?

Campbell
Yannick
Jackson
Dareus
Fowler
Jones
Bryan?

Obviously I'm looking at it as the unit as a whole and not going by the positions of the DL.

I've seen him muscle guys around a number of times and cause some pressures. Just because he isn't putting down hard numbers on paper, doesn't mean he isn't contributing. There's a lot more that goes into playing on the DL, than just sacks and tackles.
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(10-05-2018, 04:26 PM)paksat Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 03:46 PM)Rico Wrote: Incorrect.

Don't just say incorrect.

what's his stats then?

Why? Too lazy to look it up?  I did.  Or do you just prefer to shoot your mouth off without thinking.  Actually I know the answer to that too, my bad.
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I stopped in here just to check on this topic and am I seeing clearly....there is someone complaining about Taven Bryan? A rookie defensive lineman after 4 games? Seriously?

Do people just not know how football works? And how things have to take time and you can't expect immediate results from a head coach, player, etc.? People in this world sometimes have no patience for things.

I'm literally dumbfounded.
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Tayven Bryan has 0 interceptions, 0 forced fumbles, 0 passing yards, 0 kick off returns, 0 field goals.

A big fat 0 on the stat sheet, bust.
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(10-06-2018, 05:52 PM)Brett Wrote: I stopped in here just to check on this topic and am I seeing clearly....there is someone complaining about Taven Bryan? A rookie defensive lineman after 4 games? Seriously?

Do people just not know how football works? And how things have to take time and you can't expect immediate results from a head coach, player, etc.? People in this world sometimes have no patience for things.

I'm literally dumbfounded.

You should expect instant results from a premium pick rookie RB, but yeah that's about the only rookie position you should expect to contribute right out of the gate. If anything else does it's pretty much gravy.
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(10-07-2018, 12:25 AM)TearExtractor Wrote: Tayven Bryan has 0 interceptions, 0 forced fumbles, 0 passing yards, 0 kick off returns, 0 field goals.

A big fat 0 on the stat sheet, bust.

Bro he plays on an all pro defense, whose gonna sit for him to get stats?
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