Yup. It was said at the time it was insanely deep and probably goes down as the best running back class in NFL history when you consider the level of talent. 
Guys like Matt Breida and Ekeler were UDFAs  in the same class too just to add to it.

I am 100% not sure who I would take between #4 pick LF or 7th rounder Chris Carson.

There's definitely 5 I'd take but multiple more like Carson who I could argue for either. I mean, Tarik Cohen may not be a traditional rb but i'd value what he does over what LF7 does in today's NFL

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I am 100% not sure who I would take between #4 pick LF or 7th rounder Chris Carson.

There's definitely 5 I'd take but multiple more like Carson who I could argue for either. I mean, Tarik Cohen may not be a traditional rb but i'd value what he does over what LF7 does in today's NFL

For sure, Jordan Howard is very comparable to LF...and Cohen is running circles around him in a modern NFL offense.

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I can't stop watching that clip of him waving Mike Mitchell in, like "C'mon, bring it on".  The kid just RELISHES contact and dishing out punishment.  Even when Mitchell TRIED to blast him, he lowered the shoulder, went over and picked up a few more yards and then bounced back up while Mitchell paraded like a 4 year old even though they were down like 2 possessions.

This kid is special and will get even better once we got a QB who can spread the ball better.

While that was a pretty [BLEEP] thing to do, I'd rather my runningback actually try to make the man miss then wanting the contact

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Troll or noob? That's all I see with this post.

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No pain, no gain.

At least 4. Maybe 6. 
Packers took Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones in the 4th and 5th rounds of this draft (not shown in image below)

Had the Jags focused on their front five and taken a back later in 2017 they'd be much better for it IMO. 

What if they'd gone:  Jamal Adams, Cam Robinson, Dan Feeney, George Kittle, Aaron Jones with their first five picks in that draft?  

here's 15 of the  RBs taken in 2017 :

Yup. It was said at the time it was insanely deep and probably goes down as the best running back class in NFL history when you consider the level of talent. 
Guys like Matt Breida and Ekeler were UDFAs  in the same class too just to add to it.

Really what all of this is saying is anytime you're drafting players and you even think about "need" then you're doing it all wrong and headed for problems.

The draft is about stacking your team with elite talent, not filling out the bottom of your roster.

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And I can find good backs anywhere in the draft

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If the argument is “Fournette can’t do it by himself, he needs good run blocking to be effective” then you shouldn’t have drafted him 4th overall. Yes, the offensive line needs to improve, that’s a given. But I don’t think anyone can say Fournette has been worth a top 5 pick. He’s been very bad all things considered. Compare him with Barkley (also has a bad line), Elliott, and Gurley. Fournette isn’t even close to those running backs.

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Last year Fournette had 1342 all purpose yards and 10 TDs in 13 games (1652 yds 12 TD pace)
This year he has 453 all purpose yards and 5 TDs in 5 full games (1450 yds 16 TD pace)

Cut this man!

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Last year Fournette had 1342 all purpose yards and 10 TDs in 13 games (1652 yds 12 TD pace)
This year he has 453 all purpose yards and 5 TDs in 5 full games (1450 yds 16 TD pace)

Cut this man!

Spoken just like someone who thinks Bortles 2015 was good because he inefficiently compiled a bunch of overall stats too.

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Last year Fournette had 1342 all purpose yards and 10 TDs in 13 games (1652 yds 12 TD pace)
This year he has 453 all purpose yards and 5 TDs in 5 full games (1450 yds 16 TD pace)

Cut this man!

Spoken just like someone who thinks Bortles 2015 was good because he inefficiently compiled a bunch of overall stats too.

Spoken like someone who think YPC is the end all be all stat. Its hilarious everyone thinks Saquon isnt getting garbage time fluff stats. Our games vs them is a perfect example. He was held to something around 1.8 ypc up until 1 big long run and then everyone creams their pants over his final line. Not with Fournette though, his 90 yd TD against the Steelers doesn't REALLY count

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Last year Fournette had 1342 all purpose yards and 10 TDs in 13 games (1652 yds 12 TD pace)
This year he has 453 all purpose yards and 5 TDs in 5 full games (1450 yds 16 TD pace)

Cut this man!

Spoken just like someone who thinks Bortles 2015 was good because he inefficiently compiled a bunch of overall stats too.

Responded to just like someone who forgets that this is a team game.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Spoken just like someone who thinks Bortles 2015 was good because he inefficiently compiled a bunch of overall stats too.

Spoken like someone who think YPC is the end all be all stat. Its hilarious everyone thinks Saquon isnt getting garbage time fluff stats. Our games vs them is a perfect example. He was held to something around 1.8 ypc up until 1 big long run and then everyone creams their pants over his final line. Not with Fournette though, his 90 yd TD against the Steelers doesn't REALLY count

Nope, we did hold Barkley in check in his very first pro game pretty well. I joined everyone else in shrugging off the people who said Barkley dominated that game. But then I watched him some more, and he really has dominated almost the entire season.

It's also a huge misnomer to say Barkley's run was garbage time. The Giants had the ball in the 4th quarter down 5 points...

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Spoken like someone who think YPC is the end all be all stat. Its hilarious everyone thinks Saquon isnt getting garbage time fluff stats. Our games vs them is a perfect example. He was held to something around 1.8 ypc up until 1 big long run and then everyone creams their pants over his final line. Not with Fournette though, his 90 yd TD against the Steelers doesn't REALLY count

Nope, we did hold Barkley in check in his very first pro game pretty well. I joined everyone else in shrugging off the people who said Barkley dominated that game. But then I watched him some more, and he really has dominated almost the entire season.

lol what a total "nothing" response... Didn't address one single point I made

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Nope, we did hold Barkley in check in his very first pro game pretty well. I joined everyone else in shrugging off the people who said Barkley dominated that game. But then I watched him some more, and he really has dominated almost the entire season.

lol what a total "nothing" response... Didn't address one single point I made

Ok then, I never said YPC is the end all be all...but good for putting those worse in my mouth. Rate stats are far superior than overall stats though, that's just the absolute most basic form of stats 101.

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Last year Fournette had 1342 all purpose yards and 10 TDs in 13 games (1652 yds 12 TD pace)
This year he has 453 all purpose yards and 5 TDs in 5 full games (1450 yds 16 TD pace)

Cut this man!

18 full games in 30 available games is the stat that concerns me most.

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At least 4. Maybe 6. 
Packers took Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones in the 4th and 5th rounds of this draft (not shown in image below)

Had the Jags focused on their front five and taken a back later in 2017 they'd be much better for it IMO. 

What if they'd gone:  Jamal Adams, Cam Robinson, Dan Feeney, George Kittle, Aaron Jones with their first five picks in that draft?  

here's 15 of the  RBs taken in 2017 :

Feeney is garbage and was a zone blocking guard, the opposite of what we want to do.  But Kittle was the best blocking TE in the draft and had high upside, not to mention we needed a TE.  That's Dave Caldwell for you

A large majority of the Jaguars fan base wanted Kittle.  It makes me sick that we didn’t draft him.

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Last year Fournette had 1342 all purpose yards and 10 TDs in 13 games (1652 yds 12 TD pace)
This year he has 453 all purpose yards and 5 TDs in 5 full games (1450 yds 16 TD pace)

Cut this man!

18 full games in 30 available games is the stat that concerns me most.

That's fair imo, but saying he sucks is just ludicrous and it's really frustrating to see him being absolutely trashed on social media and here. The production is there when he's played. Like really of all the things to complain about this season Fournette is really low on the list

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18 full games in 30 available games is the stat that concerns me most.

That's fair imo, but saying he sucks is just ludicrous and it's really frustrating to see him being absolutely trashed on social media and here. The production is there when he's played. Like really of all the things to complain about this season Fournette is really low on the list

....for a top 5 pick, he does suck.

For a round 5 pick, he's average.

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18 full games in 30 available games is the stat that concerns me most.

That's fair imo, but saying he sucks is just ludicrous and it's really frustrating to see him being absolutely trashed on social media and here. The production is there when he's played. Like really of all the things to complain about this season Fournette is really low on the list

It's really not. His "production" is almost strictly volume based.

Dude was a top 5 pick and he's not on the same planet as Barkley or Elliott who were both selected in the top 5.  He's averaging 3.4 yards a carry this season.... Yeldon is at least averaging 4.

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Last year Fournette had 1342 all purpose yards and 10 TDs in 13 games (1652 yds 12 TD pace)
This year he has 453 all purpose yards and 5 TDs in 5 full games (1450 yds 16 TD pace)

Cut this man!

Thank you!

Fournette is not an issue at all.

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