After that throw, Grier is a definite first rounder just in case there was any doubt.

For the record, I just moved him up to my #2 spot after Haskins, and I'm ready to say let someone else trade up for Haskins and his lack of consistent deep game, and go ahead and draft Grier at #7. Really the only question with Grier was his arm strength, and he just proved that ain't no thang.

It was never really a question.  The  few people on here just read it on another site or seen it on Twitter so they run with it.  It happens quite a bit on here, when you watched his games though it was never really a question

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After that throw, Grier is a definite first rounder just in case there was any doubt.

For the record, I just moved him up to my #2 spot after Haskins, and I'm ready to say let someone else trade up for Haskins and his lack of consistent deep game, and go ahead and draft Grier at #7. Really the only question with Grier was his arm strength, and he just proved that ain't no thang.

It was never really a question.  The  few people on here just read it on another site or seen it on Twitter so they run with it.  It happens quite a bit on here, when you watched his games though it was never really a question

flgators with the "watch the tape" line......lmfao

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You should know by now not to pay any heed to velocity scores Vs how they play on the field

Oh  so now he has the velocity but he just dont use it in games? Show me some clips where he gets in trouble because of his arm strength in games

No. His arm doesn't suddenly get stronger because a velocity gun said it, in the same way that Watson doesn't have a noodle arm just because a radar gun said it.

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After that throw, Grier is a definite first rounder just in case there was any doubt.

For the record, I just moved him up to my #2 spot after Haskins, and I'm ready to say let someone else trade up for Haskins and his lack of consistent deep game, and go ahead and draft Grier at #7. Really the only question with Grier was his arm strength, and he just proved that ain't no thang.

It was never really a question.  The  few people on here just read it on another site or seen it on Twitter so they run with it.  It happens quite a bit on here, when you watched his games though it was never really a question

yeah my thoughts on Grier (the guy im a big fan of) definitely comes from twitter, not from actually breaking down most his games

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Not sure how. Accurate this website is or if the measurement is initial or delivery but Grier is above average according to them.

http://blogs.ourlads.com/2017/03/16/quar...2008-2015/

For perspective Its higher than Patrick mahomes

when they went to the left/right split, the numbers seemed to drop from prior years.  wonder if the methodology is different. also this has Blake Bortles, Cam Newton, and Andy Dalton all with the same velocity.  That doesnt feel meaningful to me.



Was listening to the college sports channel on sirius this morning.  Greg McElroy and Taylor Zarzur(??).  Anyways McElroy said that he heard Grier's stock was tanking this week.  Didnt mention anything on the field but said he has been skipping interviews and not returning texts and messages from various teams.  I havent followed Senior Bowl week as closely this year but was surprised because it was the first I had heard of it.  And all the indications I've seen about him is that he is mature and a real pro while the real concern with him is physical ability and talent.  So this came as a bit of a surprise.  Almost to the point where I wondered if McElroy had the wrong name and should have been talking about someone else.

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It was never really a question.  The  few people on here just read it on another site or seen it on Twitter so they run with it.  It happens quite a bit on here, when you watched his games though it was never really a question

flgators with the "watch the tape" line......lmfao

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Oh  so now he has the velocity but he just dont use it in games? Show me some clips where he gets in trouble because of his arm strength in games

No. His arm doesn't suddenly get stronger because a velocity gun said it, in the same way that Watson doesn't have a noodle arm just because a radar gun said it.

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Oh  so now he has the velocity but he just dont use it in games? Show me some clips where he gets in trouble because of his arm strength in games

No. His arm doesn't suddenly get stronger because a velocity gun said it, in the same way that Watson doesn't have a noodle arm just because a radar gun said it.

It's funny how you quote something I didnt even say, typical of you though.  I said "when I watched his games"  not sure if any of us can get the game tape the GMs use

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flgators with the "watch the tape" line......lmfao

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No. His arm doesn't suddenly get stronger because a velocity gun said it, in the same way that Watson doesn't have a noodle arm just because a radar gun said it.

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No. His arm doesn't suddenly get stronger because a velocity gun said it, in the same way that Watson doesn't have a noodle arm just because a radar gun said it.

It's funny how you quote something I didnt even say, typical of you though.  I said "when I watched his games"  not sure if any of us can get the game tape the GMs use

Yikes. "Watch the tape" is referring to you dismissing my take because you assume it just comes from twitter. When in reality it's from actually watching Grier, as evidenced above.

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Renfrow really saved him on that duck

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I was listening to the NFL channel of Sirius radio, and they were talking about Grier looking really bad in practice because he was flat out missing several throws. How much of a concern is this? Keeping in mind the QBs haven't had all that much of a chance to develop any kind of timing, is a sloppy practice really a red flag? I recall them saying how Deshaun Watson was wildly erratic throwing passes at his combine in drills. The report totally turned me off from thinking he'd be any good, but look at him now. The exactly opposite was true of Gabbert who nailed his combine throws, but we know the rest of his story. 

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Renfrow really saved him on that duck

The cross body throw 40 yards down field?

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Renfrow really saved him on that duck

The cross body throw 40 yards down field?

Yeah the duck

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Renfrow really saved him on that duck

The cross body throw 40 yards down field?

Into triple coverage.

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https://twitter.com/zach_goodall/status/...24641?s=19

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No Fun

Welp, all those QBs at the senior bowl aren't franchise QBs. It's Haskins or bust.

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Welp, all those QBs at the senior bowl aren't franchise QBs. It's Haskins or bust.

I liked what I saw out of Grier. His deep throws left a little to be desired, but otherwise, he did a great job feeling pressure and escaping to buy time by scrambling outside to throw. These are things Lock can't even think about doing yet.

Regarding his deep throws, I do have some concern. Now he indeed has a strong enough arm, but on his two deep outs, you saw the ball easily sail over the WR's head. This is an issue I keep seeing on tape with Grier. That is, his deep ball gets out there but doesn't exactly drop in there with touch to make the catch easy. Rather, they tend to come in more quickly with a shallower angle flying over the head of QBs. We might all recall this same exact description watching Gabbert's deep throws. He'd constantly over-shoot receivers on his deep outs the same way. Blake's deep passes, for example, drop in there nicely with touch even tho they wobble so much.

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'02

Grier in the 3rd a real possibility now? He's been totally forgotten

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Grier in the 3rd a real possibility now? He's been totally forgotten

If we can't get Haskins or Murray, I think Grier in the third would be fantastic. It's amazing how much his stock has fallen. I suspect it will correct itself and he'll end up being a 2nd rounder.

I would be delighted if we signed Foles and somehow drafted Grier in the 3rd.

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Grier in the 3rd a real possibility now? He's been totally forgotten

The injury has really set him back.  Hopefully he's 100% for the combine

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Remember draft stock is largely a media creation as they learn more about how the NFL values certain players

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I mean, a 3rd round pick would be better than the silliness that was people saying we should take him in the first...but either way it's still a significantly valued pick for a backup level QB.

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I mean, a 3rd round pick would be better than the silliness that was people saying we should take him in the first...but either way it's still a significantly valued pick for a backup level QB.

Its really stupid to even talk about drafting a QB when the next Manning/Brady/Aikman is a FA

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