LOL

The offseason isn't over yet, brother.  The Jags are not done adding pieces.

Well you have to be realistic. He wasn't good at the rams. Basically we are hoping he's a late bloomer.

The fact that the starter and the backup looked just as great in Philly either means they have two great qbs or just a great system and supporting cast.

Let's prey it's the former.

But he succeeded under two different systems in Philly-Chip Kelly's and Doug Pederson's.

Conversely, every QB but one has sucked under Jeff Fisher.

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I'm not sure what stats you're referring to but during the past 2 seasons, Foles has beaten better teams, with better records and better defenses than Wentz has....and Foles has done it at least 6 times in "must win games"...something Wentz has yet to do once.

Some of those stats are for their complete body of work.  But Foles has improved dramatically over the past 2 seasons and he has been every bit as good as Wentz...and against better teams, in much more high pressure situations.  I've watched every single Eagles game over the past 2 years and I can tell you that, without a doubt, Foles has played just as good or better than Wentz.

I don't really disagree with any of your assertions ^ here, but that "must win games" stat has got to be the most hilarious made up stat in this burgeoning era of made up stats I've ever heard. 

LOL

I'm not dark on analytics or anything, and I think that Foles is pretty clutch and definitely cool under pressure, but that stat is laughable to me.

They were literally "must win" games...as in, the season was over if they lost.  

3 times last season in the playoffs, NFCCG & Super Bowl.  Then won the final 3 games of the season this year...if they lost 1 of those games, they would have been eliminated from the playoffs....then beat the Bears in the playoffs. 

It was actually 7 must win games or the season was over.

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Also, Foles led the Eagles through the playoffs and won a SB and last season he took a 6-7 Eagles, struggling with Wentz in a 3 win streak to get in the playoffs and take them to the Division round. You can use stats to prove anything but you also have to use your eyes. That team responded to Foles and he was the guy making some of those big plays, thats what we want.

Of course he's not the best QB in the league but he's an improvement for us. We have an OC he knows and a system he knows straight away. I get shy people are nervous but this could also be a really solid move that gives us a real shot next season.

Doesnt matter his ay/a is awful
ya/p is awful
bs/ys is awful

Number 57 in pass yards after commercials
33rd in amount of words used at the line of scrimmage per audible with less than 2 minutes left in the game

just awful.

Hahah.. This was good.

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Beware manufactured "stats" (those that aren't simple observations but use opinion to "adjust" values so they fit a desired outcome.)

I bet the first thing you look at when trying to judge a baseball player is batting average and RBI too.

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Beware manufactured "stats" (those that aren't simple observations but use opinion to "adjust" values so they fit a desired outcome.)

I bet the first thing you look at when trying to judge a baseball player is batting average and RBI too.

He probably thinks Homeruns are important too. Idiot!

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I don't really disagree with any of your assertions ^ here, but that "must win games" stat has got to be the most hilarious made up stat in this burgeoning era of made up stats I've ever heard. 

LOL

I'm not dark on analytics or anything, and I think that Foles is pretty clutch and definitely cool under pressure, but that stat is laughable to me.

They were literally "must win" games...as in, the season was over if they lost.  

3 times last season in the playoffs, NFCCG & Super Bowl.  Then won the final 3 games of the season this year...if they lost 1 of those games, they would have been eliminated from the playoffs....then beat the Bears in the playoffs. 

It was actually 7 must win games or the season was over.

I understand the criteria. 

It’s still a [BLEEP] stat.

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Anyone who hates this is an idiot. Bortles is trash

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Streaky QB. Could be good and equally bad. We ALL know he is not an enforcer. In division terms, not an Andrew Luck, not an underrated and far superior athlete in Watson. titans don't count, they have no QB, but still can toy with us anyhow. We just have to HOPE pieces fall in place. Is he an upgrade? Paper wise, yes. But we are still Jags. 2018 confirmed the stillness. 2017, an anomaly on lights out defense. 18' Jag D proved defenses are still just supporters. I am 20+ years deep in this. We support and hope it pans out. Stats, credentials, resumes are all irrelevant grand scheme wise, but worthwhile, I guess. For offseason chatter.

Anyone who asserts themselves one way or in the other, in favor of, or against, is just another ho hum, unsavvy talk er type box. Go Jags. Get it together lads. Give us a substantial, semi long-lasting product, please. It's been too long.

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Success is a journey, not a destination.  Go all out Mighty Jaguars.

Anyone who hates this is an idiot. Bortles is trash

Personally, I think it's idiotic to hate or like without sustained results, especially considering our circumstance(S). I also think it's particularly idiotic to use flimsy terms as idiotic to typify individual views on a matter (WINS) that is so multifaceted and unquantifiable at the moment. But I've also grown to realize that some yanks like to use the word idiot. Language indicates stature. Carry on unidiot. Do we have labels for the wait-and-see-but-support-as-fans-crew? Or do we just join the idiot 'haters' crowd. 

Really though brother, or sister, haveaseat, have you not being a Jags fan long enough to be tempered in your allegiances? Or am I just too pragmatic? Anywho, the board is still texturally underwhelming anyway. Carry on.

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Success is a journey, not a destination.  Go all out Mighty Jaguars.

Well you have to be realistic. He wasn't good at the rams. Basically we are hoping he's a late bloomer.

The fact that the starter and the backup looked just as great in Philly either means they have two great qbs or just a great system and supporting cast.

Let's prey it's the former.

But he succeeded under two different systems in Philly-Chip Kelly's and Doug Pederson's.

Conversely, every QB but one has sucked under Jeff Fisher.

That's not really correct. Foles was great in 2013 and then went downhill in 2014 then got injured and was traded for peanuts to the rams. So obviously wasn't rated by Chip Kelly.

Didn't Jeff Fisher also get the terrible Vince Young to the probowl? Jeff Fisher must be the Blake bortles of coaching, the way he gets blame thats overly harsh. Which qbs did Fisher waste and went on to great success? Also what do the quarterbacks coaches and offensive coordinators do if everything's about the head coach?

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https://twitter.com/BrentASJax/status/11...89696?s=19

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Also :

"Not much was asked of the Eagles backup; head coach Doug Pederson ensured that his throws didn’t have to go that far. Only Cody Kessler and Jeff Driskel averaged fewer air-yards-per-completion — which measures how far the actual throw goes instead of the total yardage of the completion with yard after the catch. On throws aimed more than five yards downfield, Foles’ passer rating dropped to 79.9, which ranked 33rd in the league, according to Sports Info Solutions. And nearly half of Foles’ passing yards in 2018 (652 of 1,413) came on 0/1-step drops, screens and RPO’s"

This was his 2018 season, amazing scheming by the eagles to just run their offense through screens and quick hitters. Let Foles beat pressure with ease and get through 3rd downs easily. In his 2013 season most of his production was through yards after the catch from screens and quick hitters too, i.e the easiest way for QBs to get production. All you have to do is dump it off and the scheme does it itself.

Can A) Foles be successful doing more than that (so far his career says no) and B) Can the jags implement as much as that as possible so A doesn't matter as much? (No idea atm, but it's the best way to to success)

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I’m not a fan of the signing at this cost. What were we under the cap by after cutting 5 plus players (including two starters on Defense and starting RT), the last number I saw was 28 million. If that number was accurate, we have more holes than draft picks and cap space at this point. I don’t see this signing making up any better than our 2017 run, including the impact of cap space and players cut.

I hope I am wrong and I’ll be cheering for the jags regardless who the QB is.

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https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1105302716484468736

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Also :

"Not much was asked of the Eagles backup; head coach Doug Pederson ensured that his throws didn’t have to go that far. Only Cody Kessler and Jeff Driskel averaged fewer air-yards-per-completion — which measures how far the actual throw goes instead of the total yardage of the completion with yard after the catch. On throws aimed more than five yards downfield, Foles’ passer rating dropped to 79.9, which ranked 33rd in the league, according to Sports Info Solutions. And nearly half of Foles’ passing yards in 2018 (652 of 1,413) came on 0/1-step drops, screens and RPO’s"

This was his 2018 season, amazing scheming by the eagles to just run their offense through screens and quick hitters. Let Foles beat pressure with ease and get through 3rd downs easily. In his 2013 season most of his production was through yards after the catch from screens and quick hitters too, i.e the easiest way for QBs to get production. All you have to do is dump it off and the scheme does it itself.

Can A) Foles be successful doing more than that (so far his career says no) and B) Can the jags implement as much as that as possible so A doesn't matter as much? (No idea atm, but it's the best way to to success)

U literally just used a 2018 stat to describe his entire career. Bravo

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Also :

"Not much was asked of the Eagles backup; head coach Doug Pederson ensured that his throws didn’t have to go that far. Only Cody Kessler and Jeff Driskel averaged fewer air-yards-per-completion — which measures how far the actual throw goes instead of the total yardage of the completion with yard after the catch. On throws aimed more than five yards downfield, Foles’ passer rating dropped to 79.9, which ranked 33rd in the league, according to Sports Info Solutions. And nearly half of Foles’ passing yards in 2018 (652 of 1,413) came on 0/1-step drops, screens and RPO’s"

This was his 2018 season, amazing scheming by the eagles to just run their offense through screens and quick hitters. Let Foles beat pressure with ease and get through 3rd downs easily. In his 2013 season most of his production was through yards after the catch from screens and quick hitters too, i.e the easiest way for QBs to get production. All you have to do is dump it off and the scheme does it itself.

Can A) Foles be successful doing more than that (so far his career says no) and B) Can the jags implement as much as that as possible so A doesn't matter as much? (No idea atm, but it's the best way to to success)

U literally just used a 2018 stat to describe his entire career. Bravo

Are you simple or just slow?

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Also :

"Not much was asked of the Eagles backup; head coach Doug Pederson ensured that his throws didn’t have to go that far. Only Cody Kessler and Jeff Driskel averaged fewer air-yards-per-completion — which measures how far the actual throw goes instead of the total yardage of the completion with yard after the catch. On throws aimed more than five yards downfield, Foles’ passer rating dropped to 79.9, which ranked 33rd in the league, according to Sports Info Solutions. And nearly half of Foles’ passing yards in 2018 (652 of 1,413) came on 0/1-step drops, screens and RPO’s"

This was his 2018 season, amazing scheming by the eagles to just run their offense through screens and quick hitters. Let Foles beat pressure with ease and get through 3rd downs easily. In his 2013 season most of his production was through yards after the catch from screens and quick hitters too, i.e the easiest way for QBs to get production. All you have to do is dump it off and the scheme does it itself.

Can A) Foles be successful doing more than that (so far his career says no) and B) Can the jags implement as much as that as possible so A doesn't matter as much? (No idea atm, but it's the best way to to success)

U literally just used a 2018 stat to describe his entire career. Bravo

The point he's making is not about the stat or about 2018. 

The question is: Can DeFilippo and the Jags build and run an offense that will cater to Foles ability to succeed running those types of quick-hit plays?  

We don't know yet. And we probably won't know until September.

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But he succeeded under two different systems in Philly-Chip Kelly's and Doug Pederson's.

Conversely, every QB but one has sucked under Jeff Fisher.

That's not really correct. Foles was great in 2013 and then went downhill in 2014 then got injured and was traded for peanuts to the rams. So obviously wasn't rated by Chip Kelly.

Didn't Jeff Fisher also get the terrible Vince Young to the probowl? Jeff Fisher must be the Blake bortles of coaching, the way he gets blame thats overly harsh. Which qbs did Fisher waste and went on to great success? Also what do the quarterbacks coaches and offensive coordinators do if everything's about the head coach?

So a 27-2 TD-INT ratio, a Pro bowl, and a playoff berth is not success?

VY got to two Pro bowls under Fisher.  Problem is, he deserved neither spot.

He made the Pro Bowl his rookie year of 2006.

He had a 51.5% completion percentage, threw for 12 TDs and 13 INTs.

He then made the Pro Bowl in 2009, with a 58.7 completion percentage, 10 TDs and 7 INTs.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...unVi00.htm

Those seasons combined don't measure up to Foles' Pro Bowl season.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...leNi00.htm

As to your point about Fisher taking the blame, at least one-the guy currently with the Rams-went to the Super Bowl two years removed from Fisher.

Yes, Fisher's coordinators deserve blame for not producing particularly prolific offenses.  Fisher hired them, and can't escape blame for whatever shortcomings they had.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Congrats guys!  I'm a long time Eagles fan but I live in Central Florida now....I'll be buying a Nick Foles Jaguars jersey and will be looking forward to coming up and rooting you guys on in a few months!!   I have a feeling you won't be disappointed with Foles.  He's a true leader and a very good QB.  If he gets some weapons around him, with the Jaguars defense, this should be a playoff team next year.  Looking forward to it and congrats again!

Its nice to finally get a championship calilber QB

Stop the foolery immediately.  Championship caliber...jesus yall reaching

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Season Tix, Section 409

2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough.
TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter.

U literally just used a 2018 stat to describe his entire career. Bravo

The point he's making is not about the stat or about 2018. 

The question is: Can DeFilippo and the Jags build and run an offense that will cater to Foles ability to succeed running those types of quick-hit plays?  

We don't know yet. And we probably won't know until September.

Considering we'll likely have at least one rookie on the right side of the OL, to say nothing of guys from LT to C returning from season ending injuries, I'm betting we'll find out about the viability of quick hitting plays early on.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!