I listened to it multiple times with headphones and without.

Hard to tell really. I kept hearing "[BLEEP] that, or [BLEEP] yeah".

Could be "bump that" as well. The 2nd time dude says it is clearer, but still hard to make out for 100% certain.

I most definitely don't hear "Jalen" though.

Look man.. I didn’t want say this as I just assumed you would hear it... but he said the following:

“ [BLEEP] Ramsey and [BLEEP] eric1 from duvalpride for being on Ramsey’s nuts! “  At which point Jack started to laugh.

Not my words.. I’m just translating it.

I don’t know how he couldn’t here that. Exactly  what I took from this as well.

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Apologies for the duplicate post.

Having not read the entirety of the now THIRTY page thread nor seen the article elsewhere when I posted it led to the duplication.

Mea culpa.

Having dispensed with that

1.  Yes...if that's what it takes to keep your best player  happy, doing so does not violate the applicable NFL rules, and causes no harm to the team, then absolutely you sign him then.  Clearly signing him to a new deal wasn't against league rules, as evidenced by players from the same draft class being signed to new deals.  He wanted more money, so it would have likely mollified him for now.  The unknown is whether, from a salary cap perspective, signing him would have caused harm to the team.  What IS known is NOT signing him contributed to his unhappiness here and ultimately led to his trade demand.  What IS known is that we had a highly regarded player in his prime at a premium position and  is now gone.

2.  As for Yan, Yan is homegrown talent, very productive since he has been here, still relatively healthy and in his prime and has represented the Jaguars well in just about every possible scenario, embodying everything Jaguars fans claim to want in a player.  When the team made Norwell the highest paid guard, nobody on the board had a problem with it.  In fact, everyone said the Jaguars have to overpay to get quality free agents and were fine with it.  When the team signed Foles, while there were some who questioned the size of his deal, the overwhelming majority of posters here enthusiastically endorsed the signing.  When the team signed Campbell and Bouye, few had problems with the size of the deals associated with them.  Why the distinction with a guy like Yan, who has been the big play edge rusher this team has lacked going back to Tony freaking Brackens?  If signing an outside player/free agent is required to substantially upgrade a position, I am okay overpaying to a reasonable degree to get the player.  But if you have a young, healthy, in his prime player on your roster where he is at the very top of his position in the league like Ramsey, or at least good enough to where getting a substantial  upgrade on the market isn't likely, then it makes sense to re-sign those players, especially when they are key to the recent resurgence the team had.

3.  Yes, every team DOES mix zone and man.  That is based on several factors.  Now despite the team ranking in the top 5 defenses with this same scheme for several years now, there is no shortage of fans lamenting the lack of creativity and aggressiveness of the scheme on message boards, twitter feeds and call in radio shows all over Jacksonville and around the league.   Certainly you don't seriously assert fans on a message board should have more of an opinion on the game plan than a person tasked with helping to execute it?  Wait a minute...withdraw that last question.  I already know the answer.  Having said that, Ramsey's stance was puzzling on some level, considering he said on Frangie's show that the defenses have to mix up the coverages between man and zone.  Nevertheless, it is well within Ramsey's right to voice input  regarding game planning as any other player, and certainly more than any fan or media hack.  This is true even if it represents a departure from a prior publicly stated position.

4..  It's true that every team has down seasons.  I have preached that for years here when I have repeatedly urged patience.  But NOT every team goes through stretches where you have one (1) winning season since 2008.  Not many teams go through stretches where the team has lost 12 out of the last 14 games like the Jaguars faced starting last year and continuing this year.  How many times since 2012 have the Jaguars had stretches like that?  How does that compare with other teams?   Furthermore, just because every team goes through a losing stretch, it doesn't make it any easier for competitive players to endure the losing.  Part of what makes Ramsey a great player is his competitiveness.  Why hold that against him when that trait-the burning desire to win-is lauded in every other player in almost every conceivable context?  Finally, other teams having had longer than normal stretches of prolific losing in no way absolves the Jaguars in their errors which result in extending theirs.

Did Ramsey display ideal behavior his last days here?  Absolutely not.  But Yan has and he's not signed either.  Maybe it isn't just Jalen.  Or maybe there is some validity to the criticisms.

Several people have said Ramsey doesn't have the intelligence to play zone because he doesn't understand the concepts involved. That's why he's always out of place in zone.

So... enjoy playing 66% of the time in zone in LA!

1.  Who are these people?  What credibility do they have?  Any links to support this assertion?

2.  Taking Ramsey's alleged lack of intelligence at face value, did it stop him

• From helping the Jaguars be a top 6 or higher pass defense between 2016-2018?
  
• From making at least two Pro Bowls-more than any other Jaguars CB and All Pro a feat matched only by Rashean Mathis?
  
• From having virtually the entire league inquire about his availability when he demanded his trade, and cause a team to be willing to pay two first round picks and a 4th round pick solely for his services and no other consideration in return?
  

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

He quit on the team.  Ramsey is only concerned about team Ramsey.  End of story.

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this guy practiced fully, and will likely play Sunday. Who else is shocked?

https://www.dailynews.com/wp-content/upl....jpg?w=823

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He's a turd.

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He's a turd.

A coward. A liar. A hypocrite. Worst teammate in Jags history.

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this guy practiced fully, and will likely play Sunday. Who else is shocked?

https://www.dailynews.com/wp-content/upl....jpg?w=823

Of course he did. Not many are shocked. Probably only the few of Jalens jock hanging skin tags around here that actually believed that [BLEEP] boy was hurt. They do not care anyhow as they still wanted that lying, injury faking, no pick six catching [BLEEP] here. They are still lining up and screaming
" Thank you Jalen, may I have another ". Buuuwwwaaaaaa.!!

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

How long do you guys plan on coming here to keep pulling the scab off?

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How long do you guys plan on coming here to keep pulling the scab off?

It's where healing begins.

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How long do you guys plan on coming here to keep pulling the scab off?

For me ,I'm thinking like about two to three more months. It's fun reading the skin tags weak [BLEEP] attempts to keep portraying him in some kind of good light. It's like taking candy from a man baby. A man baby Just like little Sweet Jalen.

Edit: Or at least as long as that giant banner up there at the top still flies demanding that we talk about it.

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

How long do you guys plan on coming here to keep pulling the scab off?

There's 5 stages of grief, so quite often for now, my friend.

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Everyone still salty should troll all his social media accounts.
Anyone already over it could just... not join these discussions.

Just a thought.

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Everyone still salty should troll all his social media accounts.
Anyone already over it could just... not join these discussions.

Just a thought.

so since you posted, you're still not over it. Let it go, my man.

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Sucks that the one superstar we've drafted in a decade turned out to be a total douche, head case.

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Well, I at least have a new second favorite team to root for every week - whoever is playing the Rams. So, for anyone who wants to know when I'll personally get over it? When the season ends and we know what our draft picks look like

Never mind. Nobody cares when I get over it.

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Everyone still salty should troll all his social media accounts.
Anyone already over it could just... not join these discussions.

Just a thought.

so since you posted, you're still not over it. Let it go, my man.

I was over the Ramsey drama after a week dude.
My comment was about the people that think the people on this board should stop discussing it.

Based on your history, we know reading comprehension isn't your thing.
It's OK. I blame your parents.

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Is it wrong to hope he gets a case of uncontrollable explosive diarrhea on his first play during a game after his miraculous recovery from his debilitating back issues?

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

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Is it wrong to hope he gets a case of uncontrollable explosive diarrhea on his first play during a game after his miraculous recovery from his debilitating back issues?

If that's wrong what I"m hoping is down right demonic.

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

[BLEEP] him man. Dude is a [BLEEP], plain and simple...

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!