As a black man, thank God.

 

It'll only be an issue, good or bad, when people bring it up. I hope we're progressing as a society far enough that it doesn't have to be a topic anymore.

 

"It's alive because through these things, we keep it alive"

 

We still have a way to go, but the progress is definitley apparent.

 

Now if only we could say the same thing about other minorities.

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Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Ive never once thought about RW being a black quarterback? He's just a quarterback.

I'm with you on this. I don't look at him and see race. I just look at him as a man. I'm happy for him and his accomplishments at such a young age. I don't care what color he is. The only thing that bugs me is the fact that people apparently keep tabs on how many Super Bowls a black QB has one vs other races. I don't see what it matters.

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You just proved my point.  Someone that is hard of hearing may think that its a bigger accomplishment for a deaf person to play in the Super Bowl while a black person may think an African American quarterback is an accomplishment.  Both are opinions, not a fact.

 

I'm not saying this is the line of thinking, but being happy a black qb wins a Super Bowl would be like a white person hoping a white running back or receiver wins it because there are so few.   It's meaningless to me.

Some people are self-defined by their race or sexual preference nowadays. It's what they're fixated on in their daily lives. Personally, I could give a flying bleep. What matters to me and always will is CHARACTER.

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So Russell being black means nothing?

No. It doesn't. Not to me at least.

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I think Bridgewater at 3 is better value than Mack at 3, yes.

 

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I am saying the fact that he is black only means Doug Williams no longer is the only black quarterback to start in a Super Bowl and win it. Skin color was a big deal for Williams because he was the first and many years ago blacks still struggled to get high-paying jobs. Now it is less important than it was back then.

 

And you hit the nail right on the head for the underlined bolded part.

 

Or by pollsters and the U.S. census.

 

Very much agree if people complain about others bringing up race lets omit it from that as well.

 

No. It doesn't. Not to me at least.

 

Well TBH I wish more people had the same outlook as you, but society just doesn't think that way. Nevertheless, I appluade you and others who have a open mind.

 

There is still a huge inequality when it comes to race and opportunity from the playing/coaching and ownership field all the way to the economic and education field.

 

Im proud as a African-American of Russell Wilson becoming the second black QB to win the SB. It just goes to show African-Americans and other minorities can quarterback (lead) a football team to victory.  

 

Minorities like Tomlin and Rivera are making the strides in coaching. I just cant wait until the day I see more minorities or African American majority owners of NFL teams.

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I love all the responses from the people who say it doesn't matter. It mattered enough to respond.

 

If the thread was about him being a shorter guy, would this be an issue?

 

If you don't care, then move along to something that means something to you.

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James, how many times do I have to say it? Russell Wilson was not the second black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He was only the second starting quarterback to do it. That is an important fact to remember because although Byron Leftwich (and maybe others) did not play in the Super Bowl, he did get a ring.

 

I will let all racial minorities think what they want, but to me it is like calling Steve Young the first left-handed Super Boiwl winner.

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I love all the responses from the people who say it doesn't matter. It mattered enough to respond.

 

If the thread was about him being a shorter guy, would this be an issue?

 

If you don't care, then move along to something that means something to you.

 

This plus 1000.

 

James, how many times do I have to say it? Russell Wilson was not the second black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. He was only the second starting quarterback to do it. That is an important fact to remember because although Byron Leftwich (and maybe others) did not play in the Super Bowl, he did get a ring.

 

I will let all racial minorities think what they want, but to me it is like calling Steve Young the first left-handed Super Boiwl winner.

 

Go back and reread my last response to you. I actually praised your response.

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I'm black, and I could care less.

 

Black people need to stop holding onto this stigma. Our president is black for crying out loud. 

Agree 100%.

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That is why I said it means nothing compared to what Derrick Coleman did. Coleman is only the third deaf player in NFL history and the first to play on offense. I can name a lot of black quarterbacks.

That commercial gets too me. 

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I just cant wait until the day I see more minorities or African American majority owners of NFL teams.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath on that 

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Just like Russell Wilson who in the eyes of the majority of African Americans view him as Black.

 

Im trying to keep this disscusion on topic. 

I am beginning to think that this discussions topic is turning into a no-no per our CoC.

 

What I will say is that I wasn't sure Russel Wilson was Black before. I guess I knew he was probably part Black, but still. Its fine that the term 'Black' can help maybe identify him in a crowd, but really when it comes down to it, the achievement is his alone, not all Black people.

 

Its always tempting to grab something someone else did that was extraordinary and try to use it to make ourselves feel better by association, but this is a bad habit. We should much more being in the business of self-evaluation and improvement. When we get in the habit of piggy backing on others it makes us more apathetic towards achieving ourself. This is a most heinous crime against ourselves. Don't try to grab Russels success cause he was Black, or Tigers, or Obama's. Focus on improving yourself and you may be the next somebody, rather than trying to ride on their coattails for 5 seconds of elevated mood. It feels much better when you accomplish something cause of your own hard work.

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

I love all the responses from the people who say it doesn't matter. It mattered enough to respond.

 

If the thread was about him being a shorter guy, would this be an issue?

 

If you don't care, then move along to something that means something to you.

I commented because I'm tired of race and sexual preference thrown in my face all of the time. Just play the game and celebrate the team and individuals. Just leave all this other stupid cr@p out of it. It serves no purpose but to divide us.

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I am beginning to think that this discussions topic is turning into a no-no per our CoC.

 

What I will say is that I wasn't sure Russel Wilson was Black before. I guess I knew he was probably part Black, but still. Its fine that the term 'Black' can help maybe identify him in a crowd, but really when it comes down to it, the achievement is his alone, not all Black people.

 

Its always tempting to grab something someone else did that was extraordinary and try to use it to make ourselves feel better by association, but this is a bad habit. We should much more being in the business of self-evaluation and improvement. When we get in the habit of piggy backing on others it makes us more apathetic towards achieving ourself. This is a most heinous crime against ourselves. Don't try to grab Russels success cause he was Black, or Tigers, or Obama's. Focus on improving yourself and you may be the next somebody, rather than trying to ride on their coattails for 5 seconds of elevated mood. It feels much better when you accomplish something cause of your own hard work.

 

I want to clarify, or further explain my intentions on creating this topic.

 

I am by no means looking to another individual for gratitude or elevation based off of their success, or successes. I have repeatedly mentioned on this message board my beginnings, struggles, fortunes, and blessings to get where I am as a person both financially, and personally. I take pride in my own work through self evaluation, perseverance and humbleness and continue to rely on those tools (and others) to help mold me become the person I was destined to be.

 

Again, I have shared my testimony of my life (to a certain degree) on here that defines some of the reasoning's as to why I created this thread in regards to Wilson.

 

Some people celebrate the success of others, some people find the motivation from the success of others, while many people find out who they are (with humility) through the success of others. We must exercise caution when we begin to advise others of how they should celebrate the success of people who they can either relate to, or are inspired from.

 

We see cultures all the time celebrate their own heritage (sports wise) all the while maintaining the respect of society. The biggest and best examples I can readily think of is the Dominicans celebrating their baseball hero's, and Russians with Hockey. Should we condone them for the same thing when one of their own athletes achieve or make history in their respective leagues, even if they may celebrate their own sports stars differently?

 

Briefly removing the sports theme from it, Italian and Chinese people openly celebrate their culture and embrace other cultures as well. That carries over to the sports landscape. Are we to tell them "Why does race matter"? And point the finger at them as well?

 

Im going to go out on a limb and ask this question (albeit rhetorical). Is it doing me an injustice to be proud of Russell Wilson and his achievements? Should I celebrate this beautiful achievement quietly and privately? The better question should be, am I allowed to celebrate my heritage and race the way I want while respecting my fellow citizens?

 

This month is Black History, and next month is Women's History. Should we suppress a Woman's feelings if she wants to post a (non religious-political) thread on here celebrating a first time, or unique achievement of a Woman?

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There is (should) no skin color in football. Congrats Seahawks and Wilson.

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I am beginning to think that this discussions topic is turning into a no-no per our CoC.

 

What I will say is that I wasn't sure Russell Wilson was black before. I guess I knew he was probably part black, but still. Its fine that the term 'black' can help maybe identify him in a crowd, but really when it comes down to it, the achievement is his alone, not all black people.

 

It's always tempting to grab something someone else did that was extraordinary and try to use it to make ourselves feel better by association, but this is a bad habit. We should much more being in the business of self-evaluation and improvement. When we get in the habit of piggy backing on others it makes us more apathetic towards achieving ourself. This is a most heinous crime against ourselves. Don't try to grab Russell's success cause he was black, or Tiger's, or Obama's. Focus on improving yourself and you may be the next somebody, rather than trying to ride on their coattails for 5 seconds of elevated mood. It feels much better when you accomplish something cause of your own hard work.

 

If you limit the topic to race, that is correct. But people need to piggyback Derrick Coleman's success because what makes him different is a communication problem. The people who piggyback his success would have let their dreams die if they had not seen the Duracell commercial. OTOH black quarterbacks don't say they play "because of Doug Williams." So it really depends on why you are piggybacking another person's success. Race? Very stupid. Disability? Very smart.

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HE'S BLACK?!

 

LOL

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That commercial gets to me. 

 

In what way?

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Russian, Chinese, Italian...those are all nationalities...not skin color.

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You completely missed the point.

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