He clearly said, in that thread you cited, "Barring injury, done deal."

He was active, he played, he started but whatever.

Ok, sure.

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Sorry but the playing next to Aaron Donald, playing for Wade Phillips in a great D scheme doesn't factor in?

No it's all Fowler!!

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I love it, keep the excuses coming xD

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https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...ght=fowler

Last time I reply to you, you've lost all respect from me.

Either way, I don't give a [BLEEP] about your punishment, I care that I was right AGAIN. Looking at that topic is beautiful.

Oh no.... not your respect.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

If Yan hits free agency, he will be considered the top free agent on the market.

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If Yan hits free agency, he will be considered the top free agent on the market.

That would net the Jags a 3rd rounder. So there is at least that.

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https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/12...3701970944

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If Yan hits free agency, he will be considered the top free agent on the market.

That would net the Jags a 3rd rounder. So there is at least that.

Only to backfill his job. This is why this team will continue to eat [BLEEP] year after year and never get ahead.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

If they don’t get him signed it will be a huge loss.

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Would really really hate to lose this guy

I get a bad feeling that it might happen though, unless Caldwell coughs up a ton to keep him

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Khan needs to intervene. Franchise tag him to keep him on the roster. But reach a deal before training camp.

We have a potential Freeney / Mathis combination here with him and Allen. See if you can get Campbell restructured. Part ways with Dareus [unforunately] and maybe backfill with Brown or Kinlaw if they're on the table during draft night.

Bryan should improve some more in year three. Maybe a new DC and staff gets even more out of these guys.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It sounded like he was already checked out during the post-game interview, but money can change a lot of minds.

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Someone he trusts needs to sit him down and teach him about money and how the NFL works. He already lost around $17 million this year. Now he is going to lose about that much next season.

How does he expect to make that up? Is he going to get a team to pay him $34 million per year for 2 years?

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https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/12...3701970944

Someone he trusts needs to sit him down and teach him about money and how the NFL works. He already lost around $17 million  this year. Now he is going to lose about that much next season.

How does he expect to make that up? Is he going to get a team to pay him $34 million per year for 2 years?

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His agent has really hurt him

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Someone he trusts needs to sit him down and teach him about money and how the NFL works. He already lost around $17 million  this year. Now he is going to lose about that much next season.

How does he expect to make that up? Is he going to get a team to pay him $34 million per year for 2 years?

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His agent has really hurt him

Agreed. He isn't the first and won't be the last getting bad advice. Hope he sees the light and re-signs.

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Yeah, that stupid 3rd rounder who has already given like a 1000% return on our investment in him. Why didn't he simply accept the offer that Fidel Coughlin offered him while his peers that he has performed just as well as (if not better) were being given actual fair market value. So dumb 3rd rounder.

Anyway, let's keep screwing him over simply because we can! Yay billionaires in luxury suites!

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Yeah, that stupid 3rd rounder who has already given like a 1000% return on our investment in him. Why didn't he simply accept the offer that Fidel Coughlin offered him while his peers that he has performed just as well as (if not better) were being given actual fair market value. So dumb 3rd rounder.

Anyway, let's keep screwing him over simply because we can! Yay billionaires in luxury suites!

Lawrence, Clark, and Clowney all got tagged before they got  their extensions and Clowney hasnt even gotten his yet.  There are examples of many more players getting the tag as well.  There is a reason the franchise tag exists.  He should of taken the deal that would of made him the 4th highest paid DE annually.  If he sits out next year it would be close to 40 mil lost.  I'm sure he will get some more offers from whoever's the GM is.  You dont just give the guy a blank check though and let him make his price regardless

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You dont just give the guy a blank check though and let him make his price regardless

You don't just give the guy who has been criminally underpaid relative to what he has given you thus far a single, well below market value offer...and then shut off negotiations when he doesn't take it right away.

Sorry, I guess we just have different philosophies. I actually like our players (the legitimately good ones at least) and would like to see them properly rewarded for what they have contributed to the team. You can continue to root for the billionaires and dictators like Fidel Coughlin.

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You dont just give the guy a blank check though and let him make his price regardless

You don't just give the guy who has been criminally underpaid relative to what he has given you thus far a single, well below market value offer...and then shut off negotiations when he doesn't take it right away.

Sorry, I guess we just have different philosophies. I actually like our players (the legitimately good ones at least) and would like to see them properly rewarded for what they have contributed to the team. You can continue to root for the billionaires and dictators like Fidel Coughlin.

19 mil a year and the 4th highest DE in the league is criminally underpaid?  Lmao.   I feel so sorry for these rich players  being that they are criminally underpaid lol

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Yeah, that stupid 3rd rounder who has already given like a 1000% return on our investment in him. Why didn't he simply accept the offer that Fidel Coughlin offered him while his peers that he has performed just as well as (if not better) were being given actual fair market value. So dumb 3rd rounder.

Anyway, let's keep screwing him over simply because we can! Yay billionaires in luxury suites!

There are rules in place that you have to abide by. This isn't about what is fair, it is where you are at within the rules. Yan had 0 leverage and the Jags still offered him a deal earlier than needed. They would pay him $17 million more than they needed to in order to get him for 2-3 years.

Fair is paying for performance each year or yearly contracts, but you don't see any player signing up for those.

He thinks he is the top DE, but it doesn't matter what he thinks. The Jags control him for this season and next year if they wish. There is no way around that and he dan only sit at home and not get paid anything. It's not a free market, there is a salary cap and the Jags are using the rules.

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