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Early Mocks...Post and Debate


(03-02-2020, 06:52 PM)Caldrac Wrote: For me I would hope it would unfold like this for us, this is assuming Ngakoue is traded to Miami for the 26th and 70th overall selections:

9th: Derrick Brown - DL3T - Auburn
20th: Justin Jefferson - WR - LSU
26th (From Ngakoue Trade to Miami): Austin Jackson - OT - USC
42nd: Patrick Queen - ILB - LSU 
70th (From Ngakoue Trade to Miami): Cole Kmet - TE - Notre Dame
73rd: Jaylon Johnson - CB - Utah
116th: Alex Highsmith - DE - Charlotte
166th: Jon Runyan - OG - Michigan 
189th: Joshua Kelley - RB - UCLA
206th: Julian Blackmon - S - Utah
224th: Khalil Davis - DL1T - Nebraska

I like this one since it addresses several needs with potentially very good players. Brown, Jefferson, Queen and Kmet (sharing time with Oliver) would start immediately. Jaylon Johnson has the potential to eventually become a starter. Jackson is the wild-card in this class. If he gets stronger, he has the skill-set to be an excellent left tackle. 

I'd rather Ngakoue remain a Jaguar, but if they could receive picks 26 and 70 they'd have to make this trade. It helps greatly that there aren't many good pass rushers in this class after Young, so the Dolphins might be willing to part with their last first rounder. I doubt they'd also give up a high 3rd, however the Jags should still take this deal.
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lol i really enjoy manipulating these drafts

latest using Steve's new big board on fanspeak:

1: R1P20
WR CEEDEE LAMB
OKLAHOMA
2: R1P22
OT MEKHI BECTON
LOUISVILLE
3: R2P22
RB JONATHAN TAYLOR
WISCONSIN
4: R2P28
LB MALIK HARRISON
OHIO STATE
5: R3P9
CB JAYLON JOHNSON
UTAH
6: R3P19
DL RAEKWON DAVIS
ALABAMA
7: R3P21
S ASHTYN DAVIS
CALIFORNIA
8: R4P10
TE ALBERT OKWUEGBUNAM
MISSOURI
9: R4P22
WR VAN JEFFERSON
FLORIDA
10: R4P23
DL DAVON HAMILTON
OHIO STATE
11: R5P19
C DARRYL WILLIAMS
MISSISSIPPI STATE
12: R5P21
EDGE JONATHAN GARVIN
MIAMI
13: R6P10
RB ANTONIO GIBSON
MEMPHIS
14: R6P22
CB STANFORD SAMUELS III
FLORIDA STATE
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(02-29-2020, 06:30 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(02-28-2020, 11:44 PM)JagJohn Wrote: I'd massively prefer a dominant LT, which Wirfs definitely has the potential to be. 

Putting him straight in at RG would be a waste.
Wirfs is a RT if anything imo, where he played pretty much his whole college career.  You dont think Ferentz would of played him at LT if that was his best position and best player?  I think it would be much easier for Wirfs to slide inside and over one spot than to switch sides at tackle.  Crazy you feel that Nelson and Yanda are a waste. Would love to have a dominant guard

I'm with you here. If Wirfs can be THAT kind of mauling OG, I have no issue taking him at 9.
People on this board are hell bent on moving on from Cam Robinson... I'm not sure that is happening. I really think the only OL spot that will be addressed via draft is going to be RG.
Wirfs would be a killer there (from what I've read) or we can go round 2-3 and get a 2nd tier guy.

NT, CB (after Bouye trade), and LB are bigger needs though and I see those being the targets with our first two picks.

My latest mock from walkthemock.com for JAX via Default ranking

1:9 - DL Javon Kinlaw, South Carolina 
1:20 - CB Trevon Diggs, Alabama 
2:10 - LB Patrick Queen, LSU 
3:9 - TE Adam Trautman, Dayton 
4:10 - G Ben Bredeson, Michigan 
5:19 - FS K'Von Wallace, Clemson 
6:10 - EDGE Alex Highsmith, Charlotte 
6:27 - RB Tavien Feaster, Clemson 
7:9 - OT Saahdiq Charles, LSU
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Well this is a new one - these guys are saying we draft CJ Henderson with the 9th pick...

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dr...d69792292e
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(03-04-2020, 11:55 AM)Kane Wrote: My latest mock from walkthemock.com for JAX via Default ranking

1:9 - DL Javon Kinlaw, South Carolina 
1:20 - CB Trevon Diggs, Alabama 
2:10 - LB Patrick Queen, LSU 
3:9 - TE Adam Trautman, Dayton 
4:10 - G Ben Bredeson, Michigan 

5:19 - FS K'Von Wallace, Clemson 
6:10 - EDGE Alex Highsmith, Charlotte 
6:27 - RB Tavien Feaster, Clemson 
7:9 - OT Saahdiq Charles, LSU

This seems very realistic to me.
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I had a go at the Draft Network's mock draft simulator and was pretty pleased with this... Probably should have got more at DT. but fills most of the holes I think.

9.Tristan Wirfs Ot
20.Javon Kinlaw DT
42.Trevon Diggs CB
73. Brandon Aiyuk WR
106. Logan Wilson LB
127. A.J. Dillon RB
147.Harrison Bryant TE
169.Antonio Gandy-Golden WR
186.Steven Montez QB
200.Trevis Gipson DE
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(03-04-2020, 01:21 PM)Andy G Wrote: I had a go at the Draft Network's mock draft simulator and was pretty pleased with this...  Probably should have got more at DT. but fills most of the holes I think.

9.Tristan Wirfs  Ot
20.Javon Kinlaw  DT
42.Trevon Diggs  CB
73. Brandon Aiyuk  WR
106. Logan Wilson  LB
127. A.J. Dillon  RB
147.Harrison Bryant   TE
169.Antonio Gandy-Golden  WR
186.Steven Montez  QB
200.Trevis Gipson  DE
Love it. Value everywhere in this mock.
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R1P9 CB JEFFREY OKUDAH OHIO STATE
20: R1P20 EDGE K'LAVON CHAISSON LSU
42: R2P10 S KYLE DUGGER LENOIR-RHYNE
73: R3P9 DL LEKI FOTU UTAH
113: R4P10 LB JACOB PHILLIPS LSU
134: R4P31 G SOLOMON KINDLEY GEORGIA
165: R5P19 OT TREY ADAMS WASHINGTON
189: R6P10 TE COLBY PARKINSON STANFORD
206: R6P27 DL JOSIAH COATNEY MISSISSIPPI
223: R7P9 CB AMIK ROBERTSON LOUISIANA TECH
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Prime is saying the best corner he seen at the combine is Darnay Holmes. Could be a sleeper for us at corner
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Tag and trade Ngakoue to Baltimore for Hayden Hurst and a 2nd.

Re-sign Dareus and Keelan Cole.

Sign the following in FA: Nick Kwiatkoski LB, Vic Beasley EDGE, Quinton Dunbar CB (it cut), and Donald Parham TE.

1a - Tristan Wirfs OL
1b - Justin Jefferson WR
2a - Noah Igbinoghene CB
2b - Cam Akers RB
3 - Alex Highsmith EDGE
4 - Trey Adams LT
4 - Benito Jones NT
5 - Shaq Quarterman LB
6 - Michael Ojemudia S
7 - Calvin Taylor DT
UDFA - Bronson Rechsteiner FB

QB - Minshew, Foles, Dobbs
RB - Fournette, Akers, Armstead, Rechsteiner
WR - Chark, Conley, Jefferson, Westbrook, Cole
TE - Hurst, Oliver, O’Shag, Parham
OT - Robinson, Taylor, Adams, Richardson
OG - Wirfs, Norwalk, Cann
OC - Linder, Shatley

DE - Campbell, Allen, Beasley, Smoot, Highsmith
DT - Dareus, Bryan, A.Jones, B.Jones, Taylor
OLB - Jack, Jacobs, Williams, Calitro
MLB - Kwiatkoski, Payne, Quarterman
CB - Dunbar, Herndon, Hayden, Igbinoghene, Nickerson
S - Harrison, Wilson, Ojemudia, Wingard

K - Lambo
P - Cooke
LS - Orzech
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(03-06-2020, 08:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Prime is saying the best corner he seen at the combine is Darnay Holmes.  Could be a sleeper for us at corner

Lets hope Deion is not chirping in his ear also planting seeds of doubt for playing in a small market.

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(03-02-2020, 06:52 PM)Caldrac Wrote: For me I would hope it would unfold like this for us, this is assuming Ngakoue is traded to Miami for the 26th and 70th overall selections:

9th: Derrick Brown - DL3T - Auburn
20th: Justin Jefferson - WR - LSU
26th (From Ngakoue Trade to Miami): Austin Jackson - OT - USC
42nd: Patrick Queen - ILB - LSU 
70th (From Ngakoue Trade to Miami): Cole Kmet - TE - Notre Dame
73rd: Jaylon Johnson - CB - Utah
116th: Alex Highsmith - DE - Charlotte
166th: Jon Runyan - OG - Michigan 
189th: Joshua Kelley - RB - UCLA
206th: Julian Blackmon - S - Utah
224th: Khalil Davis - DL1T - Nebraska

That would be an unbelievably great draft.  Not sure I would take a WR in the first round, but I do really like Jefferson.

I do believe in drafting the best available player, but I might violate that and insist on a DT, either Brown like you have, or Kinlaw at #9, no matter who else dropped to that spot.  If we don't shore up our interior defensive line with a high quality player, we can write off the 2020 season.

I guess what I am saying is that if it were up to me, then I would say Brown or Kinlaw at #9 no matter what, if either of them is still available.
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5 rounds draft with https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-drafts


1st round : Derrick Brown , IDL, Auburn

1 st round : A.J. Epenesa , EDGE, Iowa

2nd round : Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama

3rd round : Jordyn Brooks, ILB, Texas Tech

4th round : Albert Okwuegbunam,TE, Missouri

4th round : Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC

5th round : Lamical Perine, RB, Florida
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(03-08-2020, 03:27 PM)MikePete54 Wrote: 5 rounds draft with https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-drafts


1st round : Derrick Brown , IDL, Auburn

1 st round : A.J. Epenesa , EDGE, Iowa

2nd round : Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama

3rd round : Jordyn Brooks, ILB, Texas Tech

4th round : Albert Okwuegbunam,TE, Missouri

4th round : Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC

5th round : Lamical Perine, RB, Florida

In my book, this would be close to the perfect draft for the Jaguars. Brown and Espinosa would be the ideal 1st round picks. While everyone loves Brown as the best guy to improve their run defense, Espenesa and Brooks would also help in this area. Espinesa could turn out to be a great replacement for Yannick; he may not be the natural pass-rusher that Ngakwoe has brought to the table, but he is much better against the run. His skill-set has brought comparisons to Cam Jordan and he is big enough to move inside on passing downs. He is definitely my first choice if he makes it to pick 20.

As far as the other picks, Pittman and Perine would be very good value picks and both could earn sigificant playing time next season. The selection of Brooks enables Jack to move outside where he belongs. Diggs would likely become a starter from day 1 and he has the size to cover bigger receivers (which Herndon does not).
Okwuegbunam's stock has dropped some since last season although he fared pretty well at the recent combine. I'd still try to trade for Hurst (one of their 2 4th round picks should get this done) since rookie tight ends rarely do great. 

To put this draft totally over the top, I would love to see the Jags get a late 1st rounder for Yannick (Seattle or Miami most likely) and get another playmaker at receiver. Justin Jefferson would be a great addition since Ruggs, Lamb and Jeudy will likely be gone. He and Pittman would help Minshew greatly.

I would sign up for your draft tomorrow and it would actually bring some hope to an otherwise depressing off-season.
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(03-08-2020, 07:05 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:
(03-08-2020, 03:27 PM)MikePete54 Wrote: 5 rounds draft with https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-drafts


1st round : Derrick Brown , IDL, Auburn

1 st round : A.J. Epenesa , EDGE, Iowa

2nd round : Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama

3rd round : Jordyn Brooks, ILB, Texas Tech

4th round : Albert Okwuegbunam,TE, Missouri

4th round : Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC

5th round : Lamical Perine, RB, Florida

In my book, this would be close to the perfect draft for the Jaguars. Brown and Espinosa would be the ideal 1st round picks. While everyone loves Brown as the best guy to improve their run defense, Espenesa and Brooks would also help in this area. Espinesa could turn out to be a great replacement for Yannick; he may not be the natural pass-rusher that Ngakwoe has brought to the table, but he is much better against the run. His skill-set has brought comparisons to Cam Jordan and he is big enough to move inside on passing downs. He is definitely my first choice if he makes it to pick 20.

As far as the other picks, Pittman and Perine would be very good value picks and both could earn sigificant playing time next season. The selection of Brooks enables Jack to move outside where he belongs. Diggs would likely become a starter from day 1 and he has the size to cover bigger receivers (which Herndon does not).
Okwuegbunam's stock has dropped some since last season although he fared pretty well at the recent combine. I'd still try to trade for Hurst (one of their 2 4th round picks should get this done) since rookie tight ends rarely do great. 

To put this draft totally over the top, I would love to see the Jags get a late 1st rounder for Yannick (Seattle or Miami most likely) and get another playmaker at receiver. Justin Jefferson would be a great addition since Ruggs, Lamb and Jeudy will likely be gone. He and Pittman would help Minshew greatly.

I would sign up for your draft tomorrow and it would actually bring some hope to an otherwise depressing off-season.

I failed to mention that no offensive linemen were taken. This need would have to be addressed through free agency. There are too many needs on this team and no draft can address them all.
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1: R1P9
DL JAVON KINLAW
SOUTH CAROLINA
2: R1P20
CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU
3: R2P10
LB MALIK HARRISON
OHIO STATE
4: R3P9
WR K.J. HAMLER
PENN STATE
5: R4P10
TE THADDEUS MOSS
LSU
6: R4P31
C KEITH ISMAEL
SAN DIEGO STATE
7: R5P19
DL BENITO JONES
MISSISSIPPI
8: R6P10
CB AMIK ROBERTSON
LOUISIANA TECH
9: R6P27
S ALOHI GILMAN
NOTRE DAME
10: R7P9
EDGE TREVIS GIPSON
TULSA

My attempt at something realistic-ish
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9. LB SIMMONS
20. CB HENDERSON
42. DT GILLMORE
73. RB EDWARDS-HELAIRE
113. WR COLLIN JOHNSON
134. CB PRIDE JR
165. G KINDLEY
189. S DAVID DOWELL
206. TE STEPHEN SULLIVAN
223. DT BENITO JONES
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9: R1P9
OT TRISTAN WIRFS
IOWA
20: R1P20
OT MEKHI BECTON
LOUISVILLE
42: R2P10
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA
73: R3P9
TE HARRISON BRYANT
FLORIDA ATLANTIC
113: R4P10
LB JORDYN BROOKS
TEXAS TECH
134: R4P31
TE THADDEUS MOSS
LSU
165: R5P19
RB ANTONIO GIBSON
MEMPHIS
189: R6P10
OT TREY ADAMS
WASHINGTON
206: R6P27
CB AMIK ROBERTSON
LOUISIANA TECH
223: R7P9
DL BENITO JONES
MISSISSIPPI
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If we could wind up with Wirfs and Becton with our 1st 2 picks it would probably be a dream come true for Minshew
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First time using The Draft Networks mock drafter...
Using their predictive board.

9 Jeffrey Okudah CB Ohio State
20 A.J. Epenesa EDGE Iowa
42 Patrick Queen LB LSU
73 Antoine Winfield Jr. S Minnesota
116 Chase Claypool WR Notre Dame
165 Yasir Durant IOL Missouri
189 Benito Jones IDL Ole Miss
206 Joshua Kelley RB UCLA
223 Mitchell Wilcox TE South Florida
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