Nobody has a problem with you not labeling him.  You have a problem with people putting a label on him.

 

People do have a problem with me not labeling Martin as a thug because ive stated ad nauseum on here he made mistakes but people keep interpreting that as me painting him in a different light. I dont have a problem with people labeling Martin, they are just using the incorrect term.

 

That's like people labeling me as the angry black man or divisive. That would be totally incorrect.

 

You aren't taking all sides JFC and that is the point.  You aren't taking all sides when you have to ask another person what skin color they are because they think differently than you.

 

I am taking all sides.

 

I been understood he thinks differently from me, but when he categorized (all) Black people as the problem with Black America, the question of me asking him what skin color he was was a challenge to him on what he describes as the "problem with Black America".

 

He chose to point fingers at Black America, but yet when pressed with what can he do to help, he offered nothing stating he dosent want to help which at the end of the day is his choice, but he comes across as a hypocrite which is sad.

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People do have a problem with me not labeling Martin as a thug because ive stated ad nauseum on here he made mistakes but people keep interpreting that as me painting him in a different light. I dont have a problem with people labeling Martin, they are just using the incorrect term.

 

That's like people labeling me as the angry black man or divisive. That would be totally incorrect.

 


 

I am taking all sides.

 

I been understood he thinks differently from me, but when he categorized (all) Black people as the problem with Black America, the question of me asking him what skin color he was was a challenge to him on what he describes as the "problem with Black America".

 

He chose to point fingers at Black America, but yet when pressed with what can he do to help, he offered nothing stating he dosent want to help which at the end of the day is his choice, but he comes across as a hypocrite which is sad.

You asked him if he was black before he made the comment about what was wrong with black America.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

So you think Trayvon was a thug right?

 

What about Jordan Davis?

 

Correct me if im wrong, but didnt you say you were black?

 

 

Yes, I do think he was a thug. There is pictures of him holding and pointing a gun. There is texts of him selling weed.

 

Just because I'm black, I'm supposed to agree that he did nothing wrong? LOL. THAT, is what's wrong with Black America. And with this post, I'm done.

 

 

I am taking all sides.

 

I been understood he thinks differently from me, but when he categorized (all) Black people as the problem with Black America, the question of me asking him what skin color he was was a challenge to him on what he describes as the "problem with Black America".

 

He chose to point fingers at Black America, but yet when pressed with what can he do to help, he offered nothing stating he dosent want to help which at the end of the day is his choice, but he comes across as a hypocrite which is sad.

 

And this is the problem with lying.  Can't keep things straight.

 

He didn't state the problem with black america until AFTER you asked him if he was black (time in quotes for reference).  Not to mentioned he did not categorize all black people as being the problem with black america.  He was basically stating that the problem or a problem with black america is defending someone who is black regardless of the facts.  Jessie Jackson comes to mind.

 

As I've said before, you aren't on all sides or viewing it from different angles.  You are looking at life through a pair of binoculars. 

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I'm not upset that you aren't labeling him...you are upset that I am.


I don't remember what the thread was about, but you said something about not having cheered so much (about whatever it was) since the OJ verdict was read.

 

Im not upset either.

 

I tried a quick search and couldnt find anything. The only threads I could think of is the Jags first win, Stanford's win vs Oregon to put FSU #2, or Gabbert's benching..I honestly dont remember, and cant find the link.

 

The OJ comment was a joke. For the record, I do believe he killed his wife.

 

If you (or someone else) could produce a link I would be glad to elaborate.

 

While you at it, do you have anymore "racists" comments I made that I need to clarify?

JFC, if that is true, than that would honestly explain a lot especially in regards to Trayvon.  I mean, you honestly think like this?  Pretty much destroys your credibility in regards to race and racism.  

 

Nope, I already stated I believe OJ killed his wife.

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I don't care who you are or what color you are.. If you act like a thug, you're a thug.. Kids are going to act this way in this generation because their heroes are thugs or wanna be thugs.. Want to change that? Be a better parent..


Trying to downplay what the kid is considered because of his age and what not is idiotic and ill informed..

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And this is the problem with lying.  Can't keep things straight.

 

He didn't state the problem with black america until AFTER you asked him if he was black (time in quotes for reference).  Not to mentioned he did not categorize all black people as being the problem with black america.  He was basically stating that the problem or a problem with black america is defending someone who is black regardless of the facts.  Jessie Jackson comes to mind.

 

As I've said before, you aren't on all sides or viewing it from different angles.  You are looking at life through a pair of binoculars. 

 

Who was lying, get your facts right.

 

He stated his "issues" with Black America  ie bringing up race in other threads ie Richard Sherman thread.

 

I took note, and pressed him on it in this thread.

 

You dont know how I am looking at things.

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None of this would have happened is Zimmerman wasent playing Cowboy. He saw a Black kid with a hoodie and took it from there. THATS THE REAL PROBLEM. He does what the cop says and niether one of them would be labeled nothing.

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Im not upset either.

 

I tried a quick search and couldnt find anything. The only threads I could think of is the Jags first win, Stanford's win vs Oregon to put FSU #2, or Gabbert's benching..I honestly dont remember, and cant find the link.

 

The OJ comment was a joke. For the record, I do believe he killed his wife.

 

If you (or someone else) could produce a link I would be glad to elaborate.

 

While you at it, do you have anymore "racists" comments I made that I need to clarify?


 

Nope, I already stated I believe OJ killed his wife.

I went through your posts and I couldn't find it either, but with the switch to the new board we lost all of our old posts. If you want to deny saying it...I won't argue with you about it since we can't find it now.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

Who was lying, get your facts right.

 

He stated his "issues" with Black America  ie bringing up race in other threads ie Richard Sherman thread.

 

You dont know how I am looking at things.

 

You referred to a post in this thread which again was said after you asked him his skin color.  Honestly, I don't think you are trying to lie to us, I think you are just lying to yourself.

 

I can't observe based on your posts how I "think" you look at things.  And based on those posts, you have a very narrow way of viewing things.  Which I am not the only person to say that.  

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None of this would have happened is Zimmerman wasent playing Cowboy. He saw a Black kid with a hoodie and took it from there. THATS THE REAL PROBLEM. He does what the cop says and niether one of them would be labeled nothing.

 

This plus 1000.

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I went through your posts and I couldn't find it either, but with the switch to the new board we lost all of our old posts. If you want to deny saying it...I won't argue with you about it since we can't find it now.

 

Well you brought it up, and I vaguely remember it so there was no denying anything.

 

I clarified my stance on OJ, do you care to acknowledge that, or will you cherrypick it?

 

You referred to a post in this thread which again was said after you asked him his skin color.  Honestly, I don't think you are trying to lie to us, I think you are just lying to yourself.

 

I can't observe based on your posts how I "think" you look at things.  And based on those posts, you have a very narrow way of viewing things.  Which I am not the only person to say that.  

 

When all else fails, you resort to calling someone a "liar"?

 

Thanks for the debate while it lasted.

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None of this would have happened is Zimmerman wasent playing Cowboy. He saw a Black kid with a hoodie and took it from there. THATS THE REAL PROBLEM. He does what the cop says and niether one of them would be labeled nothing.

 

Agreed.  But it was also preventable even after Zimmerman played Cowboy if the events as we know them based on the evidence we have is correct.  

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Well you brought it up, and I vaguely remember it so there was no denying anything.

 

I clarified my stance on OJ, do you care to acknowledge that, or will you cherrypick it?

 

 

When all else fails, you resort to calling someone a "liar"?

 

Thanks for the debate while it lasted.

 

I did so based on you lying or as I said lying to yourself.  It is there for all to see.  I even have times as I mentioned.  Lol, it isn't like I said you were lying because it was my opinion.  Don't be mad at me because you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

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Agreed.  But it was also preventable even after Zimmerman played Cowboy if the events as we know them based on the evidence we have is correct.  

Why is this part disregarded so heavily?

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Why is this part disregarded so heavily?

 

Well, it doesn't fit the narrative/agenda.

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Well, it doesn't fit the narrative/agenda.

It is obvious if the two never crossed paths that night nothing would have happened. But the trial showed there was more to it then a guy chasing a "child" down. Witnesses back that up.

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Why is this part disregarded so heavily?

Because that goes against the agenda of the crusade..

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None of this would have happened is Zimmerman wasent playing Cowboy. He saw a Black kid with a hoodie and took it from there. THATS THE REAL PROBLEM. He does what the cop says and niether one of them would be labeled nothing.

 

The cop didnt say anything.  It was the 911 caller, and per the law he did nothing illegal.

 

I'm not saying its right, but thats the fact.  If the prosecutor would have just charged him with a different crime, I'd believe he would be in jail.  They were worried about perception and thats why he got the charge he did.

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I did so based on you lying or as I said lying to yourself.  It is there for all to see.  I even have times as I mentioned.  Lol, it isn't like I said you were lying because it was my opinion.  Don't be mad at me because you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

 

Lying about what? What tactic are you trying to use?

 

You see that I have my beliefs and you are trying to pigeonhole someone by using the "narrow may of me viewing things" narrative. 

 

All of a sudden, you want to take the "lying" angle.

 

What's next, im divisive, im an angry black man, im militant. Go ahead take your best shot.

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Lying about what? What tactic are you trying to use?


You see that I have my beliefs and you are trying to pigeonhole someone by using the "narrow may of me viewing things" narrative.


All of a sudden, you want to take the "lying" angle.


What's next, im divisive, im an angry black man, im militant. Go ahead take your best shot.

You may not look like any of those things, but I'm questioning you being culturally biased.

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