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Jaguars coaching candidates? (merged coaching threads)


(01-05-2021, 09:59 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 09:54 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: He should have told the truth.. my three best players opted out and we got spanked because athletes today are selfish and don't give a crap about their brothers on the field.
Why should these players risk their futures for a meaningless game? 

Indeed... why should any of the players agree to play in any bowl game that isn't the CFP, amirite?
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I still think Pete Carmichael Jr. would make a good coach. Surprised he hasn't been a coach yet tbh.
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(01-05-2021, 12:05 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: I still think Pete Carmichael Jr. would make a good coach.  Surprised he hasn't been a coach yet tbh.

He’s done all of his notable work under Sean Payton and with Drew Brees. I’m sure that plays into it. Jedd Fisch could win 9 games with Brees under center.
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(01-05-2021, 11:32 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 11:08 AM)Upper Wrote: I hope we hear about us being linked to Brady today. I have a hunch he is going to be the best of this bunch when all is said and done.

My fear with Brady is we'll take Fields over Lawrence
Why? Based on what?
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(01-05-2021, 11:47 AM)TJBender Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 05:33 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: If Khan plans to hire both at the same time, and have both report directly to him, that kind of kills the idea of Urban Meyer selecting the GM and having the GM report to him.  Right?  So that kills the idea of giving Meyer all the power.  Shad Khan has made it clear that he intends to keep all the power.

“So, Urban, if I were to hire a GM to work alongside you, who would you like that to be?”

(01-04-2021, 08:07 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Not head coaches, which is why I would rather an offensive guru

I want the best man for the job. If you get the right head coach and hit the right assistants, who cares what side of the ball he comes from?

(01-05-2021, 09:38 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Saleh gives me that Gus Bradley feeling. DC who made a name for himself with great personnel becomes HC.... You know the rest... Hard pass on him.

I think it’s a different scenario. Bradley rose to prominence under defensive coaches. Saleh is having success under an offensive head coach. Plus, his defense is just better than Bradley’s.

(01-05-2021, 11:08 AM)Upper Wrote: I hope we hear about us being linked to Brady today. I have a hunch he is going to be the best of this bunch when all is said and done.

I’m still hesitant to pick up Sean McVay types. McVay himself has stood up to the pressure, but the jury’s out on Kingsbury and Zac Taylor is in hopelessly over his head. It’s far from a hard no, especially with a very young team, but I’d still be kind of jittery about it.

(01-05-2021, 11:27 AM)Brett Wrote: Jaguars.com just updated the GM/Head Coach search tracker to include Jason Garrett as an interview. Um no.

I also saw a separate article saying that we've requested an interview with Falcons interim head coach, Raheem Morris.

I don’t think the Falcons are going to let Morris go. He did some great work after taking over for Quinn and is thought very highly of by ownership here.

I still want Anthony Lynn. The Chargers organization gave up on him, but his players never quit. Four straight wins at the end of the year, and the work he did with Justin Herbert was outstanding. That’s the type of HC you give a second chance to, not a guy like Gase or Garrett.

Anthony Lynn made a lot of really dumb clock management mistakes in games I saw.  Maybe he's learned, though.

(01-05-2021, 10:57 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 10:16 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Do you say the same thing about coaches who jump to a new school whenever they get a better deal?

Your logic is understandable. However, I find the comparison between a coach who has spent decades of his adulthood building a career and very young adult who is just emerging and is being compensated with a free ride scholarship worth over $100K, not to mention the top-notch athletic development and exposure, to be a little ridiculous. The coach has far more invested in his career than a college football player.

If by saying "The coach has far more invested in his career than a college football player." you mean he has already earned more in his career than that player, that is true.  But the player sometimes has a lot more money in front of him.  And the player is risking an enormous, life-changing amount of money by playing in a meaningless game.

But I wasn't talking so much about money as much as the concept of "loyalty" that people throw around when players opt out.  Coaches don't have any loyalty to the program or the players.  Offer them more money, and they're out the door without so much as a goodbye in many cases.
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(01-05-2021, 11:59 AM)Kane Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 09:59 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Why should these players risk their futures for a meaningless game? 

Indeed... why should any of the players agree to play in any bowl game that isn't the CFP, amirite?
Yes.... you’re right.

I’m not knocking any player who wants to play in the Mayonaise Bowl. However, I’m certainly not going knock a player who has money on the line and they sit out. Do what’s best for you because once you leave, that school won’t care at all about you until they come asking for money because you’re an alum.
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(01-05-2021, 01:01 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 11:32 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: My fear with Brady is we'll take Fields over Lawrence
Why? Based on what?

I had a complete brain fart and was thinking Ryan Day for some reason. Carry on.
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i would like to see Brian daboll from the bills. look what he did with Allen now he will have a even more talented QB coming into the league

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(01-05-2021, 02:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/...23361?s=19

This is definitely a Rooney Rule interview.  The dude was GM for 1 year and drafted the following players in 2015 .   These dudes aren't even on the Browns anymore.
  • 1st Round (#12): NT Danny Shelton

  • 1st Round (#19): OL Cameron Erving

  • 2nd Round (#51): OLB Nate Orchard

  • 3rd Round (#77): RB Duke Johnson

  • 3rd Round (#96): DT Xavier Cooper

  • 4th Round (#115): S Ibraheim Campbell

  • 4th Round (#123): WR Vince Mayle

  • 6th Round (#189): CB Charles Gaines

  • 6th Round (#195): FB Malcolm Johnson

  • 6th Round (#198): TE Randall Telfer

  • 7th Round (#219): ILB Hayes Pullard

  • 7th Round (#241): CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu

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(01-05-2021, 02:17 PM)Brett Wrote: https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/statu...7514988544

If this team was to do something as competent as hire Bienemy and draft Lawrence my head may explode
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Ray Farmer seems like a horrible choice. Here are some blurbs about his recent job in Cleveland:

"Farmer's track record leaves something to be desired. He used two first-round picks in each of his two seasons (2014-2016) as Browns general manager to select CB Justin Gilbert, QB Johnny Manziel, NT Danny Shelton, and OL Cam Erving. Jacksonville fans better hope Farmer is a long shot to land the team's GM job. "

"Kevin Costner would have made a better GM than Farmer. Since being hired as the head of the personnel department ahead of the 2014 season, the Browns have posted 7-9 and 3-13 seasons, seemingly getting far worse in year two. Armed with two first-round picks in each of his two seasons as GM, Farmer delivered CB Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel, NT Danny Shelton, and OL Cam Erving. Gilbert is a certified bust, and there were whispers he may even be moved to wide receiver before those talks went away. Manziel may never play another down for the Browns. Shelton and Erving each had rough rookie seasons. Farmer also got in trouble with the league for texting coaches on the sideline during games."
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(01-05-2021, 02:18 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 02:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/...23361?s=19

This is definitely a Rooney Rule interview.  The dude was GM for 1 year and drafted the following players in 2015 .   These dudes aren't even on the Browns anymore.
  • 1st Round (#12): NT Danny Shelton

  • 1st Round (#19): OL Cameron Erving

  • 2nd Round (#51): OLB Nate Orchard

  • 3rd Round (#77): RB Duke Johnson

  • 3rd Round (#96): DT Xavier Cooper

  • 4th Round (#115): S Ibraheim Campbell

  • 4th Round (#123): WR Vince Mayle

  • 6th Round (#189): CB Charles Gaines

  • 6th Round (#195): FB Malcolm Johnson

  • 6th Round (#198): TE Randall Telfer

  • 7th Round (#219): ILB Hayes Pullard

  • 7th Round (#241): CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu

if this is a rooney rule interview maybe he already has his guy and is just doing the needed interviews

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(01-05-2021, 02:25 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 02:17 PM)Brett Wrote: https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/statu...7514988544

If this team was to do something as competent as hire Bienemy and draft Lawrence my head may explode

Ok but do we think Bienemy would be a great head coach?  I wonder how much Andy Reid is involved with the offensive plays/decisions?  Do we have any idea how unleashed Bienemy was in KC?  Also, any offensive coordinator could look good with Mahomes, so it's not a slam dunk he would be a good coach here.
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(01-05-2021, 02:29 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 02:18 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: This is definitely a Rooney Rule interview.  The dude was GM for 1 year and drafted the following players in 2015 .   These dudes aren't even on the Browns anymore.
  • 1st Round (#12): NT Danny Shelton

  • 1st Round (#19): OL Cameron Erving

  • 2nd Round (#51): OLB Nate Orchard

  • 3rd Round (#77): RB Duke Johnson

  • 3rd Round (#96): DT Xavier Cooper

  • 4th Round (#115): S Ibraheim Campbell

  • 4th Round (#123): WR Vince Mayle

  • 6th Round (#189): CB Charles Gaines

  • 6th Round (#195): FB Malcolm Johnson

  • 6th Round (#198): TE Randall Telfer

  • 7th Round (#219): ILB Hayes Pullard

  • 7th Round (#241): CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu

if this is a rooney rule interview maybe he already has his guy and is just doing the needed interviews

We’ve already requested, scheduled or done interviews with 3 or more minority GM candidates. I think the RR requirements have been met.
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Lets just go with Arthur Smith. Then maybe we can atleast beat the Titans twice next year. I'd be satisfied with that...
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(This post was last modified: 01-05-2021, 02:49 PM by HURRICANE!!!.)

Bring Ozzie Newsome out of retirement.  The dude was incredible with the Ravens.  I think he had Gene Smith's phone number on speed dial as the Jags are personally responsible for a portion of their success.

OR

Pay Belichick $15m to be the GM and Head Coach.
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(01-05-2021, 02:32 PM)airjoeo Wrote:
(01-05-2021, 02:25 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: If this team was to do something as competent as hire Bienemy and draft Lawrence my head may explode

Ok but do we think Bienemy would be a great head coach?  I wonder how much Andy Reid is involved with the offensive plays/decisions?  Do we have any idea how unleashed Bienemy was in KC?  Also, any offensive coordinator could look good with Mahomes, so it's not a slam dunk he would be a good coach here.

I get yoir point and your right but this is the classic dilemma of great HC/OC and QB, whos the really the genius. The OC calls the play, the QB executes the play, the HC takes credit for practicing the play.

By no means am i saying hes a slam dunk but you can only judge his body of work and since he became OC, his record is very impressive. Just from a football knowledge perspective hes better than anything weve had the last few years and has experience with top level talent.

He has plenty of upside
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(01-05-2021, 02:32 PM)airjoeo Wrote: Ok but do we think Bienemy would be a great head coach?  I wonder how much Andy Reid is involved with the offensive plays/decisions?  Do we have any idea how unleashed Bienemy was in KC?  Also, any offensive coordinator could look good with Mahomes, so it's not a slam dunk he would be a good coach here.

my thoughts exactly.  andy reid is the brains behind everything as he also developed donovan mcnabb and also acquired mike vick and went to 3 nfc championship games with the eagles.
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