Just to prove how big a pile of [BLEEP] the whole Trump family is......celebrating the riots.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-amer...5a4a1435de

This is the most critical point in this whole debacle...  It is also a LIE! 

Donald Trump bears zero responsibility for what happened @ the capitol.

Whelp, chalk another one up to BDS.

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For all those watching. Yes....   that just happened!

"I've thought about blowing up the whitehouse but it won't change anything" 
vs
"We're going to go to the Capitol and show those Republican members how to be strong and vote the right way."

So she thought about it? Did she have a bomb? No. If anyone there had a bomb would they have felt her encouraging them to use it? No.  The opposite.

Meanwhile, Trump literally told those people to do exactly what they did. He even lied and saying he would go there with them.  That lie matters, it's further encouragement.  Made them feel more legitimate in what they were about to do.

Again, cockroaches vs godzilla.  I'm not defending Madonna.  I'm telling you she is a speck when you have a log in your eye.

Who needs the nutmeg now, brother?

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"I've thought about blowing up the whitehouse but it won't change anything" 
vs
"We're going to go to the Capitol and show those Republican members how to be strong and vote the right way."

So she thought about it? Did she have a bomb? No. If anyone there had a bomb would they have felt her encouraging them to use it? No.  The opposite.

Meanwhile, Trump literally told those people to do exactly what they did. He even lied and saying he would go there with them.  That lie matters, it's further encouragement.  Made them feel more legitimate in what they were about to do.

Again, cockroaches vs godzilla.  I'm not defending Madonna.  I'm telling you she is a speck when you have a log in your eye.

Read your bolded comment, then "read" his response. Your inability to ever admit you are wrong is your worst quality.

Ok.
My memory was wrong.
She was near Pennsylvania Ave.
So I watched the video and refreshed my memory.
My memory was still accurate that Madonna's statement was a cockroach and Trump's statement was Godzilla.
But why should I admit this to you? You're only going to use it against me. You're not trying to learn.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

"I've thought about blowing up the whitehouse but it won't change anything" 
vs
"We're going to go to the Capitol and show those Republican members how to be strong and vote the right way."

So she thought about it? Did she have a bomb? No. If anyone there had a bomb would they have felt her encouraging them to use it? No.  The opposite.

Meanwhile, Trump literally told those people to do exactly what they did. He even lied and saying he would go there with them.  That lie matters, it's further encouragement.  Made them feel more legitimate in what they were about to do.

Again, cockroaches vs godzilla.  I'm not defending Madonna.  I'm telling you she is a speck when you have a log in your eye.

Who needs the nutmeg now, brother?

Explain why you think I'm hiding the sins of a hypocritical philanderer while you're somehow following a true religion.
Trump is literally a hypocritical philanderer, not very different from Elijah Muhammad!  That's your guy!
I'm the wanderer in the desert trying to create unity out of disunity. 
You're the one stoking the old divisions.
Nutmeg indeed.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Is TDS fatal?

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Is TDS fatal?

It certainly was for Ashli Babbitt.

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Is TDS fatal?

It certainly was for Ashli Babbitt.

You clearly missed the meaning of TDS.

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It certainly was for Ashli Babbitt.

You clearly missed the meaning of TDS.

She was deranged enough to get herself shot over Trump's blatant and baseless lies. 

Seems to fit perfectly. 

Suits you as well. Clearly deranged.

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This is rich.

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This is rich.

It's true. That's what it is.

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That's fine. Jacob Blake got himself shot, too. Do you remember the conservatives on this board posting his image as a lesson to others? Or falsely memorializing him to support their positions. The willingness of posters on this board to utilize a person's unfortunate death to emphasize their point is over-the-top. That lady made a choice. A bad choice. What's that got to do with the posters here?

In anticipation of your response, I will say this: Trump is not responsible for her death in the same way Bernie Sanders wasn't when one of his supporters shot up an RNC softball game, or when a BLM supporter shot 4 police officers after Barrack Obama wouldn't tamp down his rhetoric. This stuff happens all the time, but people are responsible for their own anger. Politicians should, as a general rule, not stoke the flames. For this, I think Trump pushed too far, and he's being held accountable. But, there's a difference between directly calling for violence and stoking flames. 

Let's look at what Trump actually said:

"And after this, we're going to walk down there, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down ... to the Capitol and we are going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women," Trump told the crowd. "And we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that congress do the right thing, and only count the electors that have been lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see if Republicans stand strong for the integrity of our elections."

Like all things Trump, this is a poorly designed choice of words, that sends mixed messages and allows people to hear what they want to hear. He definitely stoked the flames and the people's animosity, but he did SPECIFICALLY call for a peaceful protest. He also deployed the national guard and condemned any violence once it occurred. You can think he dog whistled if you want, but, in truth, I think he was just trying to pressure Republicans to do what he felt was right, by showing them how many of their supporters thought fraud took place (I believe it would have been unconstitutional for Republicans to try to circumvent the electoral process, for the record). However, it backfired. This is Trump at his worst.

But, I think the posters here using this lady's death to shame Trump supporters is them at their worst. So, take that however you want to take it.

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That's fine. Jacob Blake got himself shot, too. Do you remember the conservatives on this board posting his image as a lesson to others? Or falsely memorializing him to support their positions. The willingness of posters on this board to utilize a person's unfortunate death to emphasize their point is over-the-top. That lady made a choice. A bad choice. What's that got to do with the posters here?

In anticipation of your response, I will say this: Trump is not responsible for her death in the same way Bernie Sanders wasn't when one of his supporters shot up an RNC softball game, or when a BLM supporter shot 4 police officers after Barrack Obama wouldn't tamp down his rhetoric. This stuff happens all the time, but people are responsible for their own anger. Politicians should, as a general rule, not stoke the flames. For this, I think Trump pushed too far, and he's being held accountable. But, there's a difference between directly calling for violence and stoking flames. 

Let's look at what Trump actually said:

"And after this, we're going to walk down there, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down ... to the Capitol and we are going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women," Trump told the crowd. "And we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that congress do the right thing, and only count the electors that have been lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see if Republicans stand strong for the integrity of our elections."

Like all things Trump, this is a poorly designed choice of words, that sends mixed messages and allows people to hear what they want to hear. He definitely stoked the flames and the people's animosity, but he did SPECIFICALLY call for a peaceful protest. He also deployed the national guard and condemned any violence once it occurred. You can think he dog whistled if you want, but, in truth, I think he was just trying to pressure Republicans to do what he felt was right, by showing them how many of their supporters thought fraud took place (I believe it would have been unconstitutional for Republicans to try to circumvent the electoral process, for the record). However, it backfired. This is Trump at his worst.

But, I think the posters here using this lady's death to shame Trump supporters is them at their worst. So, take that however you want to take it.

I blame Trump because he had a motive!
Bernie Sanders' time in office wouldn't have been extended if there were more victims at that softball practice.
Barack Obama's time in office wasn't extended when those four officers in Dallas were gunned down.  It wouldn't have been extended if that man had shot more police.  It wouldn't have been extended if that man led a mob of 1000 men through Dallas and made the cops retreat.
If those insurrectionists at the Capitol had succeeded in capturing or killing members of Congress, it could have extended Trump's time in office 


Your examples don't work.
No examples from this country work.  You have to look at Russia or Ukraine or Serbia or the Phillippines or Egypt to understand what happened on Wednesday, to understand what Trump was trying to do and why he is to blame.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

1) What Madonna wrote on Twitter was very bad, yes, but she didn't say it in front of thousands of people anywhere near Pennsylvania Ave.  It's not a valid comparison.

2) Just because you're a black man doesn't mean that you alone get to decide if a protest about racism is legitimate.  And bailing someone out of jail doesn't get that person out of trouble.  They still have a court date, where they'll have to show a judge and jury that they were protesting and not rioting.

3) Stacey Abrams didn't concede, and that's unfortunate, but it didn't matter because she was the challenger.  It's easier to keep a bad challenger out of the office than it is to get a bad incumbent out.  Abrams had no ability to bend the police forces to extend her time in office.  Do you see the difference? Other than that, yes, you should imitate the example she set after losing her election!  Register more voters.  Clarify your party's message. Find better candidates.

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For all those watching. Yes....   that just happened!

Bet nothing happened to any of these people either...



https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/134...45536?s=20

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

Really? It seems to be expediting his exit. You love to assign motive like you know.

It's plausible he had some nefarious plot to Hitler this thing, but he sure was a [BLEEP] about it.... conceding the next day.

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That's fine. Jacob Blake got himself shot, too. Do you remember the conservatives on this board posting his image as a lesson to others? Or falsely memorializing him to support their positions. The willingness of posters on this board to utilize a person's unfortunate death to emphasize their point is over-the-top. That lady made a choice. A bad choice. What's that got to do with the posters here?

In anticipation of your response, I will say this: Trump is not responsible for her death in the same way Bernie Sanders wasn't when one of his supporters shot up an RNC softball game, or when a BLM supporter shot 4 police officers after Barrack Obama wouldn't tamp down his rhetoric. This stuff happens all the time, but people are responsible for their own anger. Politicians should, as a general rule, not stoke the flames. For this, I think Trump pushed too far, and he's being held accountable. But, there's a difference between directly calling for violence and stoking flames. 

Let's look at what Trump actually said:

"And after this, we're going to walk down there, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down ... to the Capitol and we are going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women," Trump told the crowd. "And we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that congress do the right thing, and only count the electors that have been lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see if Republicans stand strong for the integrity of our elections."

Like all things Trump, this is a poorly designed choice of words, that sends mixed messages and allows people to hear what they want to hear. He definitely stoked the flames and the people's animosity, but he did SPECIFICALLY call for a peaceful protest. He also deployed the national guard and condemned any violence once it occurred. You can think he dog whistled if you want, but, in truth, I think he was just trying to pressure Republicans to do what he felt was right, by showing them how many of their supporters thought fraud took place (I believe it would have been unconstitutional for Republicans to try to circumvent the electoral process, for the record). However, it backfired. This is Trump at his worst.

But, I think the posters here using this lady's death to shame Trump supporters is them at their worst. So, take that however you want to take it.

Very well put.  I agree.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Really? It seems to be expediting his exit. You love to assign motive like you know.

It's plausible he had some nefarious plot to Hitler this thing, but he sure was a [BLEEP] about it.... conceding the next day.

He had to concede.
He thought if he didn't call the national guard, the national guard wouldn't come.
If the national guard didn't come, the whole melee keeps going and going and maybe members of Congress vote his way out of fear.
But the VP called the national guard, even though he's not supposed to be able to do that ...
Unless...
Pence has confirmation from half the cabinet that they're onboard for invoking the 25th when Pence sees fit. Now Pence can hold that over Trump's head for the next 12 days and the SecDef knows where the real orders come from.
No wonder Trump is suddenly acting like a kept man. He probably is one.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Lol. Maybe your right. He's the wimpiest dictator of all time. This is what everyone feared?

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Lol. Maybe your right. He's the wimpiest dictator of all time. This is what everyone feared?

Yes.
We should be afraid.  He may have wimped out at this chance, but he had way to many chances to not be wimpy.
Plus, he has set some precedents that the next President, a man less wimpy than Trump but with a similar tendency to dictatorship, can stretch further.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Really? It seems to be expediting his exit. You love to assign motive like you know.

It's plausible he had some nefarious plot to Hitler this thing, but he sure was a [BLEEP] about it.... conceding the next day.

He had to concede.
He thought if he didn't call the national guard, the national guard wouldn't come.
If the national guard didn't come, the whole melee keeps going and going and maybe members of Congress vote his way out of fear.
But the VP called the national guard, even though he's not supposed to be able to do that ...
Unless...
Pence has confirmation from half the cabinet that they're onboard for invoking the 25th when Pence sees fit.  Now Pence can hold that over Trump's head for the next 12 days and the SecDef knows where the real orders come from.
No wonder Trump is suddenly acting like a kept man.  He probably is one.

What a total bunch of bull [BLEEP].

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1346918582832168964

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

But the media said something else. The honest, non-partisan media....

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