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Poll: How do you feel about the Baalke hire?
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Official Baalke Confirmed as GM (merged)

#61

So we go from Coughlin to now Urban having full control with a lame yes man gm? Is this much better? IDK
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#62

(01-20-2021, 12:46 PM)nhiverson Wrote: So we go from Coughlin to now Urban having full control with a lame yes man gm? Is this much better? IDK

It's kind-of like that. Aside from Khan repeatedly saying he'd be more involved than he was during Coughlin's tenure. 

Nonetheless, Khan is rolling the dice that Meyer (along with additional checks and balances) will be better than Coughlin was in a similar role. 

Another key difference is the fact that the "czar" in this scenario is the HC and not an executive. 
It's a more streamlined approach as the "czar" won't be potentially in disagreement w/ the coach on roster moves.
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#63

If Baalke gets all the "blame" for "ruining" the 49ers, then he also deserves credit for their early 2010's run. Which was a good run and one play away from a championship.

I am not incredibly thrilled about being in-house, but in his defense, he was only here a few months. So he was not here long enough to absorb the "stink".

Let's see how it plays out.
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#64

(01-20-2021, 11:30 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I'd imagine Balke will be there to crunch numbers related to salary cap and duration of contracts.  His drafts in SF are less than stellar

Trent Baalke’s Draft Picks
Draft Year Player Round Taken Departure Result Current Status
2011 Aldon Smith 1 Released FA
2011 Colin Kaepernick 2 Opted out FA

2011 Chris Culliver 3 FA FA
2011 Kendall Hunter 4 Released FA
2011 Daniel Kilgore 5 Trade (7th) Miami Dolphins
2011 Ronald Johnson 6 Released FA
2011 Colin Joines 6 Trade (7th) Carolina Panthers
2011 Bruce Miller 7 Released FA
2011 Mike Person 7 Released On 49ers 90-man roster
2011 Curtis Holcomb 7 Released Jacksonville Jaguars
2012 A.J. Jenkins 1 Trade (player) FA
2012 LaMichael James 2 Released FA
2012 Joe Looney 4 Released Dallas Cowboys
2012 Darius Fleming 5 Released FA
2012 Trenton Robinson 6 Released FA
2012 Jason Slowey 6 Released FA
2012 Cam Johnson 7 Trade (7th) Detroit Lions
2013 Eric Reid 1 FA FA
2013 Tank Carradine 2 FA Oakland Raiders
2013 Vance McDonald 2 Trade (4th) Pittsburgh Steelers
2013 Corey Lemonier 3 Released Free Agent
2013 Quinton Paton 4 FA FA
2013 Marcus Lattimore 4 Retired Retired
2013 Quinton Dial 5 Released Green Bay Packers
2013 Nick Moody 6 Released FA
2013 B.J. Daniels 7 Released FA
2013 Carter Bykowski 7 Released (practice squad) Retired
2013 Marcus Cooper 7 Released Chicago Bears
2014 Jimmie Ward 1 On Team On Team
2014 Carlos Hyde 2 FA Cleveland Browns
2014 Marcus Martin 3 Released Dallas Cowboys
2014 Chris Borland 3 Retired Retired
2014 Brandon Thomas 3 Trade (Player) FA
2014 Bruce Ellington 4 Released Houston Texans
2014 Dontae Johnson 4 FA Seattle Seahawks
2014 Aaron Lynch 5 FA Chicago Bears
2014 Keith Reaser 5 Released Kansas City Chiefs
2014 Kenneth Acker 6 Traded (7th) Jacksonville Jaguars
2014 Kaleb Ramsey 7 Retired Retired
2014 Trey Millard 7 Released Kansas City Chiefs
2015 Arik Armstead 1 On Team On Team
2015 Jaquiski Tartt 2 On Team On Team
2015 Eli Harold 3 Traded (7th) Detroit Lions
2015 Blake Bell 4 Released FA
2015 Mike Davis 4 Released Seattle Seahawks
2015 DeAndre Smelter 4 Released Jacksonville Jaguars
2015 Bradley Pinion 5 On Team FS
2015 Ian Silberman 6 Released Oakland Raiders
2015 Trenton Brown 7 Traded (3rd) New England Patriots
2015 Rory Anderson 7 Released FA
2015 DeForest Buckner 1 On Team On Team
2016 Joshua Garnett 1 On Team On Team
2016 Will Redmond 3 Released Kansas City Chiefs
2016 Rashard Robinson 4 Traded(5th) New York Jets
2016 Ronald Blair 5 On Team On Team
2016 John Theus 5 Released Retired
2016 Fahn Cooper 5 Released FA
2016 Jeff Driskel 6 Released Cincinnati Bengals
2016 Kelvin Taylor 6 Released FA
2016 Aaron Burbridge 6 On Team On Team
2016 Prince Charles Iworah 7 Released Washington

To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams.

Yes he had misses.

But considering he added to two Super Bowl teams, I'm not getting the hostility here.  Not completely.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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#65

(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 11:30 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I'd imagine Balke will be there to crunch numbers related to salary cap and duration of contracts.  His drafts in SF are less than stellar

Trent Baalke’s Draft Picks
Draft Year Player Round Taken Departure Result Current Status
2011 Aldon Smith 1 Released FA
2011 Colin Kaepernick 2 Opted out FA

2011 Chris Culliver 3 FA FA
2011 Kendall Hunter 4 Released FA
2011 Daniel Kilgore 5 Trade (7th) Miami Dolphins
2011 Ronald Johnson 6 Released FA
2011 Colin Joines 6 Trade (7th) Carolina Panthers
2011 Bruce Miller 7 Released FA
2011 Mike Person 7 Released On 49ers 90-man roster
2011 Curtis Holcomb 7 Released Jacksonville Jaguars
2012 A.J. Jenkins 1 Trade (player) FA
2012 LaMichael James 2 Released FA
2012 Joe Looney 4 Released Dallas Cowboys
2012 Darius Fleming 5 Released FA
2012 Trenton Robinson 6 Released FA
2012 Jason Slowey 6 Released FA
2012 Cam Johnson 7 Trade (7th) Detroit Lions
2013 Eric Reid 1 FA FA
2013 Tank Carradine 2 FA Oakland Raiders
2013 Vance McDonald 2 Trade (4th) Pittsburgh Steelers
2013 Corey Lemonier 3 Released Free Agent
2013 Quinton Paton 4 FA FA
2013 Marcus Lattimore 4 Retired Retired
2013 Quinton Dial 5 Released Green Bay Packers
2013 Nick Moody 6 Released FA
2013 B.J. Daniels 7 Released FA
2013 Carter Bykowski 7 Released (practice squad) Retired
2013 Marcus Cooper 7 Released Chicago Bears
2014 Jimmie Ward 1 On Team On Team
2014 Carlos Hyde 2 FA Cleveland Browns
2014 Marcus Martin 3 Released Dallas Cowboys
2014 Chris Borland 3 Retired Retired
2014 Brandon Thomas 3 Trade (Player) FA
2014 Bruce Ellington 4 Released Houston Texans
2014 Dontae Johnson 4 FA Seattle Seahawks
2014 Aaron Lynch 5 FA Chicago Bears
2014 Keith Reaser 5 Released Kansas City Chiefs
2014 Kenneth Acker 6 Traded (7th) Jacksonville Jaguars
2014 Kaleb Ramsey 7 Retired Retired
2014 Trey Millard 7 Released Kansas City Chiefs
2015 Arik Armstead 1 On Team On Team
2015 Jaquiski Tartt 2 On Team On Team
2015 Eli Harold 3 Traded (7th) Detroit Lions
2015 Blake Bell 4 Released FA
2015 Mike Davis 4 Released Seattle Seahawks
2015 DeAndre Smelter 4 Released Jacksonville Jaguars
2015 Bradley Pinion 5 On Team FS
2015 Ian Silberman 6 Released Oakland Raiders
2015 Trenton Brown 7 Traded (3rd) New England Patriots
2015 Rory Anderson 7 Released FA
2015 DeForest Buckner 1 On Team On Team
2016 Joshua Garnett 1 On Team On Team
2016 Will Redmond 3 Released Kansas City Chiefs
2016 Rashard Robinson 4 Traded(5th) New York Jets
2016 Ronald Blair 5 On Team On Team
2016 John Theus 5 Released Retired
2016 Fahn Cooper 5 Released FA
2016 Jeff Driskel 6 Released Cincinnati Bengals
2016 Kelvin Taylor 6 Released FA
2016 Aaron Burbridge 6 On Team On Team
2016 Prince Charles Iworah 7 Released Washington

To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams.

Yes he had misses.

But considering he added to two Super Bowl teams, I'm not getting the hostility here.  Not completely.

Look at his entire 2012 Draft.  Yikes.
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#66

(01-20-2021, 01:37 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams.

Yes he had misses.

But considering he added to two Super Bowl teams, I'm not getting the hostility here.  Not completely.

Look at his entire 2012 Draft.  Yikes.

To be fair, most of his misses came between the 5th-7th rounds.. Lots of them to be honest, with some 3rds-4ths sprinkled in there. I know everyone wants a GM who can find hidden talent in the deeper rounds, but his drafts look pretty average.
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#67

(01-20-2021, 10:54 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(01-19-2021, 10:24 PM)Tank Commander Wrote: That wasn't Baalke. He only ruined the 49ers.
See, this is what I'm not getting.

How could he have singularly ruined the 49ers if he has those accolades-besides from maybe driving away Harbaugh?

The critics would argue that the early success was due to players mostly acquired prior to him being GM and the team just got worse the longer Baalke ran things.  Let's just take the record of 51-44-1.  It doesn't sound that bad.  Hypothetically, if it went as follows, I think most people would be pleased:

Season 1:  2-14
Season 2:  5-11
Season 3:  8-8
Season 4:  12-4
Season 5:  11-4-1
Season 6:  13-3

However, that's not what happened.  The reality is reversed.  His actual records went as follows:

Season 1:  13-3
Season 2:  11-4-1
Season 3:  12-4
Season 4:  8-8
Season 5:  5-11
Season 6:  2-14

That's the concern.
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#68

Some of you guys just want big name guys. Would you rather have Caldwell back ? Geez

I’m fine with it. We’re getting Lawrence and another 1st round pick. Oh no we got Trent at GM....we’re gonna go 1-15 again
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#69

(01-20-2021, 01:44 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 01:37 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: Look at his entire 2012 Draft.  Yikes.

To be fair, most of his misses came between the 5th-7th rounds.. Lots of them to be honest, with some 3rds-4ths sprinkled in there. I know everyone wants a GM who can find hidden talent in the deeper rounds, but his drafts look pretty average.

AJ Jenkins and LaMichael James were concerning reaches, considered such even at the time by most (and considered even worse in hindsight).  I think most considered Jenkins a 3rd rounder, and James a 4th.  Yet those were their first and second picks of a draft where they didn't have a lot of draft capital to begin with.
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#70

(01-20-2021, 08:35 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: He does have a leg up on all the other candidates when it comes to evaluating the roster, since he has been here for a year already.  That'll give UM a big head start on roster evaluation.

Evaluating the roster?   Let me see .... 1-15  Most Players Suck

There's my evaluation.
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#71

I love the panic from everyone. No one can give it a chance. Let's see what happens before we obviously go winless for the next 2-3 years. (According to you couch GM's)
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#72

I'm still convinced that Baalke appointed as GM is a pure formality..

This is strictly Meyer's team and I'm pretty sure he'll have the final say in the drafts..
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#73

(01-20-2021, 01:37 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams.

Yes he had misses.

But considering he added to two Super Bowl teams, I'm not getting the hostility here.  Not completely.

Look at his entire 2012 Draft.  Yikes.

That happens, for any number of reasons.

If a GM is hitting about 40% of his picks, he's doing exceptionally well.

Hopefully for us, there won't be any versions of that 2012 draft.

For me, those Super bowl appearances shape my perspective of Baalke.

I am, however, soliciting the input of some 49ers fans.  I know they are less than enthused about his stay there.  I would like some details from them as to why that is.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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#74

Hey guys let’s see what Baalk can do ? All the negativity is making my head hurt.
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#75

(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams.

Yes he had misses.

But considering he added to two Super Bowl teams, I'm not getting the hostility here.  Not completely.

Much like Caldwell, he averaged about one good player a draft. And also much like Caldwell you kind of have to stretch what is considered a good player to count. Not nearly good enough.
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#76

Patriots drafted Brady in the 6th round. Every GM in the league should be ashamed. It’s a crap shoot. Some of you guys want to hire guys that have hit the draft lottery and it doesn’t work like that.

We got the QB now, the rest will be a lot easier.
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#77

(01-20-2021, 02:14 PM)Upper Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams.

Yes he had misses.

But considering he added to two Super Bowl teams, I'm not getting the hostility here.  Not completely.

Much like Caldwell, he averaged about one good player a draft. And also much like Caldwell you kind of have to stretch what is considered a good player to count. Not nearly good enough.

Then how are the contributors to the Super Bowl teams explained?

Were Aldon Smith, Eric Reid, and DeForest Buckner NOT good players?
 

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#78

The guy made 3 Super Bowls and was voted excecutive of the year. Geez...
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#79
(This post was last modified: 01-20-2021, 02:25 PM by The Real Marty.)

I really think he's the interim GM.  There's just not enough time to hire a coaching staff, evaluate the roster, and get into free agency and the draft PLUS go through day after day of interviewing GM candidates.

I think he'll be evaluated after one year and if he doesn't measure up, let go at that time.
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#80

He did draft for the Niners in 2010 as well which was probably his best draft. I am not estatic at all about the move, but i can”t imagine there were a lot of potential Gm’s chomping at the bit to play 3rd fiddle to Urban and Khan.
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