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So, what's going to happen with Minshew?
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I'd rather have 2.5m dead money and cut bethard than have bethard as our backup over Minshew who is better imo. But i'd trade minshew for a 3rd or higher to anyone who wanted him for sure.
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(06-03-2021, 02:17 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(06-03-2021, 01:27 PM)anonymous2112 Wrote: Rare agreement with FSG, New England would be a good landing spot for Minshew. If he hits the market as a backup, he'd be in the upper half at the position in the NFL. So I don't think he should be allowed to hit the market. The Jags will keep him as the backup, start him if he is the best option coming out of camp, or trade him for a worthy pick. I think all those teams would be good fits, but I just don't see any of them offering a 3rd round pick for him in a trade. Maybe conditional, like 5th round, becomes 4th with number of starts and 3rd with more starts. (06-03-2021, 02:34 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:(06-03-2021, 02:17 PM)Bullseye Wrote: I don't see the good fit in New England. Agreed. Truth is, there aren't too many teams at this point with a dire need at starting QB. A conditional 5th sounds about right for Minshew. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(06-03-2021, 02:38 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(06-03-2021, 02:34 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I think all those teams would be good fits, but I just don't see any of them offering a 3rd round pick for him in a trade. Maybe conditional, like 5th round, becomes 4th with number of starts and 3rd with more starts. mmmm.... we are still in OTA's. wait until the preseason hits, then we will see a much bigger demand for ol Mustache
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-03-2021, 02:39 PM)Ronster Wrote:(06-03-2021, 02:38 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Agreed. I'm kinda thinking the same thing. It will take an injury like with Foles to spur demand for Minshew. But I think that would be predicated in part on Minshew. If he holds out or otherwise proved to be a malcontent/pain in the butt to force a trade, it possibly drives his price down. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(06-03-2021, 02:42 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(06-03-2021, 02:39 PM)Ronster Wrote: mmmm.... we are still in OTA's. wait until the preseason hits, then we will see a much bigger demand for ol Mustache He would be stupid to hold out. He is not special like that. lol
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(06-03-2021, 02:39 PM)Ronster Wrote:(06-03-2021, 02:38 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Agreed. I know we have said and "hoped for this" but what QB injury in camp/preseason really forces a team to trade a 3rd for Minshew. If the current starting QB of Denver, Pittsburgh, Washington gets hurt, they are more likely to just tank the season to draft a QB next year. Patriots are tied Jones, Carolina to Stafford, GB to Love. None would introduce the drama of a competitor for the starter role for those guys. Eagles are loosely tied to Hunt, but probably secretly tanking like the Jags did last year. Texans appear to planning to tank, and more like to throw just ride with Mills given they had no picks this year. Even Seattle would probably be better off tanking to get some good picks for a influx of talent on the offensive line, edge rusher, or secondary in the situation that RW gets hurt given how tough their division is. Heck, even with RW they could be the worst team in their division. Only chance would a team that is basically "all-in" for this season facing a major QB injury like Tampa, Buffalo or LA Rams. And that would only play out if that injury happened during the season and they realize they cannot trust their current back ups to navigate 1-2 months. I'm not saying the Jags should cut bait right now. But I don't anticipate the market getting that much better. (06-03-2021, 01:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(06-03-2021, 12:57 PM)Dewboy01 Wrote: Beathard isn't getting cut after they guaranteed him 2.5 Million. You don't guarantee $$ for a camp arm. He's on the roster, and if he isn't the back-up QB, than that's a bad look for Meyer & Co. - so that means he'll be the back-up QB, no matter that Minshew has more experience and better numbers.... If he doesn't win the back-up spot, I'd be perfectly fine with cutting Beathard also - I just don't have faith that Meyer will feel the same. The fact that we've already had multiple "bad look" decisions makes me afraid that Meyer will make another one in this case. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Regarding other teams Gardner could go to, I think that the Eagles could be an option. They still don't seem completely sold on Jalen Hurts and a little while ago was hesitant to name him the starter. As far as I know they still haven't named him as the starter for sure. Another team that he might have a shot at might be the Lions. They have Jared Goff, but I question if that combo of Jared/Dan Campbell will work together. We saw how much Jared struggled pre Sean McVay, and how much Sean helped him out as a QB. I wonder if he might struggle again in Detroit opening up the door for some competition.
And for teams that just need QB's period, the Cowboys were very recently looking for backup QB's. They don't really have anybody solid behind Dak. And some other teams could be interested as well. Also, the local reporters said that Gardner took a "personal" day off and this was a "light" day for the veterans. For what it's worth Norwell didn't show up either and these OTA's are voluntary. But this doesn't sound right to me and it doesn't really sound like Gardner. Hmmm..., lol. (06-03-2021, 02:52 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:That's a lot of tanking teams... They all can't be in last place. I think Philly, Texans or Washington are likely teams. Perhaps even GB would be a good fit.(06-03-2021, 02:39 PM)Ronster Wrote: mmmm.... we are still in OTA's. wait until the preseason hits, then we will see a much bigger demand for ol Mustache
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He's more valuable to the Jags than even a third-round pick. He's the second-best QB on the roster and that means a lot. I'd keep Minshew here for the duration of his contract.
(06-03-2021, 02:54 PM)Ronster Wrote:(06-03-2021, 02:52 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I know we have said and "hoped for this" but what QB injury in camp/preseason really forces a team to trade a 3rd for Minshew.That's a lot of tanking teams... They all can't be in last place. I think Philly, Texans or Washington are likely teams. Perhaps even GB would be a good fit. Those were If __, then __ situations. I doubt all those teams will have QB injuries. And in the case they don't have injuries, they have no reason to trade for Minshew at that price. (06-03-2021, 02:56 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: He's more valuable to the Jags than even a third-round pick. He's the second-best QB on the roster and that means a lot. I'd keep Minshew here for the duration of his contract. Another question about Minshew as the back up is can he run a playbook designed for T-Law. We all saw his limitations last season, albeit with a worse staff. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-03-2021, 02:52 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:Makes sense.(06-03-2021, 02:39 PM)Ronster Wrote: mmmm.... we are still in OTA's. wait until the preseason hits, then we will see a much bigger demand for ol Mustache Unless somehow Pittsburgh still sees itself as a contender. An early injury to Big Ben is the only thing that would cause Pittsburgh to even consider a trade for Minshew, but they are patient enough as an organization to just endure that sort of season and just start anew. On the other hand, they have made some trades recently (Minkah Fitzpatrick and the move up for Bush).. But it's doubtful they would make a deal for Minshew. Like I said, there aren't too many teams with a dire need at QB at this point. The guys on 1010 speculated Philadelphia might be interested, but I don't see that rither. While I am no fan of Jalen Hurts, they have too much invested in him in terms of the whole QB controversy, they will go with Hurts as the starter for at least this year in the attenpt to justify themselves. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
And keeping 3 QBs is such a bad idea because....????
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(06-03-2021, 02:54 PM)mal234 Wrote: Regarding other teams Gardner could go to, I think that the Eagles could be an option. They still don't seem completely sold on Jalen Hurts and a little while ago was hesitant to name him the starter. As far as I know they still haven't named him as the starter for sure. Another team that he might have a shot at might be the Lions. They have Jared Goff, but I question if that combo of Jared/Dan Campbell will work together. We saw how much Jared struggled pre Sean McVay, and how much Sean helped him out as a QB. I wonder if he might struggle again in Detroit opening up the door for some competition. Did not see this reply when I posted on Hurts and the Eagles earlier. Apologies. As for the Cowboys, from Minshwe's perspective, a trade to Dallas makes no sense. They have a ton of surrounding talent, sure, but they just committed a ton of money to Prescott. Minshew would have no shot to start over him at this stage. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(06-03-2021, 03:02 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: And keeping 3 QBs is such a bad idea because....???? How much dead weight do want them to carry? I mean if they keep Tebow and now three QB's.... That's a lot of dead weight for a team that went 1-15 last year.
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(06-03-2021, 03:05 PM)Ronster Wrote:(06-03-2021, 03:02 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: And keeping 3 QBs is such a bad idea because....???? And because we have so much talent on this roster.... I wonder what the Broncos will do after what happened to them last year.
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I think you all know where I stand on Minshew. Solid backup we are paying peanuts for. Hes won games for us. He was treated so bad by Marrone last year with Glennon and Luton playing over him no matter how much they stunk.
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