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Lawrence Critique (merged)
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(12-26-2021, 06:55 PM)IndyJagsFan Wrote: The mass delusion on this thread is to the point of absurd. The kid has shown exactly zero this whole season and objectively is playing at a "career backup" level. The excuses are fast and furious as the evidence just keeps mounting. ![]() We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-26-2021, 06:55 PM)IndyJagsFan Wrote: The mass delusion on this thread is to the point of absurd. The kid has shown exactly zero this whole season and objectively is playing at a "career backup" level. The excuses are fast and furious as the evidence just keeps mounting. Hey Man stop speaking truth. Lawrence is the golden boy and can't do any wrong. Every bad throw and bad decision is coaching or anybody else's fault. Get on the bandwagon and be a blind rah rah boy! I want Lawrence to be great but he is so far from that right now. Again with an average QB we win today, easily! ![]()
Trevor had some dang good throws today and very nearly pulled off the comeback. His defense and special teams let him down big time.
The facts are of course that he still a rookie and learning, while in a cesspool of a roster. I will refer back to bullseyes post as he hit the nail on the head as to why the trolls in this thread are so off base it’s not even amusing. (12-22-2021, 01:57 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(12-22-2021, 04:53 AM)Bullseye Wrote: (Emphasis added) Requoting as not one of these single trolls and idiots has come even close to mounting a cogent argument to counter this post, or even overcome the simple fact that Trevor is a god dang rookie (12-26-2021, 07:40 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Trevor had some dang good throws today and very nearly pulled off the comeback. His defense and special teams let him down big time. Dude you are a serious Lawrence Jock rider. You come off as a total blind fanboy and fail to see the product on the field. In the last 2 weeks alone he should of had 3 passing TD's but he flat out misses receivers. Yes he is a rookie but with a rookie you want to see growth. All I see is regression. He looked mediocre against a bad jets team missing lots of starters. There is a lot more evidence that supports my argument he is an overated player who may not be a good QB vs your everything wrong is a rookie excuse agenda. Open your eyes! ![]()
I know I sure did hate when Lawrence gave up that 52 yard TD run to Wilson, as well as that 102 yard kick off return TD... What the hell was he thinking?
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-26-2021, 07:47 PM)Eric1 Wrote: I know I sure did hate when Lawrence gave up that 52 yard TD run to Wilson, as well as that 102 yard kick off return TD... What the hell was he thinking? He was too busy missing open receivers in the endzone (the announcers were calling him out on it) or running backwards and fumbling the fall deep in his own territory. Aside the fumble he lost in the redzone that our player luckily fell on or the should of been pick 6 he threw towards the end of the game. Lawrence makes many more bad plays then good ones. It's not even close. ![]()
(12-26-2021, 06:55 PM)IndyJagsFan Wrote: The mass delusion on this thread is to the point of absurd. The kid has shown exactly zero this whole season and objectively is playing at a "career backup" level. The excuses are fast and furious as the evidence just keeps mounting. This has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read, and man, there are some doozies to be had on this thread
First and goal on the five and can't punch it in to win the game. Pretty sad.
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(12-26-2021, 07:50 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: First and goal on the five and can't punch it in to win the game. Pretty sad. Not only that, he literally threw it into a jets defenders hand but the bum dropped it. Lawrence has a mountain to climb this off-season to be a good QB. We shall see if he can do it. ![]() We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(12-26-2021, 07:46 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:(12-26-2021, 07:40 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Trevor had some dang good throws today and very nearly pulled off the comeback. His defense and special teams let him down big time. He threw a 40 yard TD that was dropped in the end zone today bruh. Open yours. (12-26-2021, 07:52 PM)Khan Artist Wrote:(12-26-2021, 07:46 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Dude you are a serious Lawrence Jock rider. You come off as a total blind fanboy and fail to see the product on the field. He under threw it. The receiver had to wait on the ball for a split second and was enough for the defender to get there. You want and insane stat! Lawrence may not break 10 passing TD's in a 17 game season. Simply outrageous this is a possibility in week 16 ![]() (12-26-2021, 07:50 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:(12-26-2021, 07:47 PM)Eric1 Wrote: I know I sure did hate when Lawrence gave up that 52 yard TD run to Wilson, as well as that 102 yard kick off return TD... What the hell was he thinking? Entirely false, but you keep doing you bud.
Lawrence could have made more of an effort to score on his long run. I'm personally glad he didn't, but he could have. Bortles would have given his body up.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-26-2021, 07:55 PM)Eric1 Wrote:(12-26-2021, 07:50 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: He was too busy missing open receivers in the endzone (the announcers were calling him out on it) or running backwards and fumbling the fall deep in his own territory. Aside the fumble he lost in the redzone that our player luckily fell on or the should of been pick 6 he threw towards the end of the game. He has 9 passing TD's on the year vs all his fumbles and ints. Lets not count the bad completion percentage or how often he misses easy throws. If keep doing me means speaking the truth, I will do that buddy. Good luck with your blind homerism! ![]()
Going to take a herculean effort to fix this [BLEEP] show. Cap space helps. But, only if you're aggressive enough and good enough to get players to join in.
Lawrence, much like the grand majority of this team, has been up and down, and then, down some more, a little up, then majorly down, etc. I expected it to be bad with even mediocre talent and average coaching in 2021. The team ended up with abysmal talent, riddled with injuries, then it was further compounded with an unconventional, out of touch, lame [BLEEP] duck of a coach instead. 2021 has to be THE bottom for this franchise. Next staff in two and a half months time better come out the [BLEEP] gates swinging. Leave no doubt that it was Meyer and lack of talent all along in 2022. If Lawrence stinks it up next year they need to be looking for a bargain deal in 2023. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk (12-26-2021, 07:55 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Lawrence could have made more of an effort to score on his long run. I'm personally glad he didn't, but he could have. Bortles would have given his body up.Agreed. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (12-26-2021, 07:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: .Thats the million dollar question. Many have blind loyalty to Lawrence and just assume he is going to be the franchise QB. I am getting serious Joe Flacco vibes from Lawrence. This pass off-season is going to be a huge crossroads for Lawrence. Just like meyer, if he continues to struggle to hit easy passes it's time to admit the mistake and cur our losses just like Meyer. It would not be the first time the media hyped up a "can't miss" prospect only for him to fail in the NFL. My Jaguar motto: Hope for the best but expect the worst. It's words to live by as a Jags fan. ![]()
(12-26-2021, 08:05 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:(12-26-2021, 07:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: .Thats the million dollar question. Many have blind loyalty to Lawrence and just assume he is going to be the franchise QB. I am getting serious Joe Flacco vibes from Lawrence. This pass off-season is going to be a huge crossroads for Lawrence. Just like meyer, if he continues to struggle to hit easy passes it's time to admit the mistake and cur our losses just like Meyer. It would not be the first time the media hyped up a "can't miss" prospect only for him to fail in the NFL. So really all you see is what you expect to see. Pity. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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(12-26-2021, 07:57 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:(12-26-2021, 07:55 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Entirely false, but you keep doing you bud. Cool, Josh Allen had 10 TD and 20 Turnovers his rookie year, I really couldn't careless. You really gotta stop looking at the box score and look at the full situation, but I know that doesn't fit your narrative when it comes to Lawrence, so you just ignore everything else going on around him. There's no homerism here. Lawrence has a footwork issue at times that he needs to correct this off season. Too many times he isn't getting his feet set before he throws and that's why there's accuracy issues at times. He also needs to quit doing that stupid turn and run backwards [BLEEP]. That might have worked in college, but you aren't out running those guys in the NFL. The bigger issues are the lack of talent he has to work with and the amount of drops this team has had this season. But I know you just love to dwell on the handful of rookie mistakes Lawrence makes every game, while ignoring (his good plays) the rest of the [BLEEP] show that's going on around him. Lawrence isn't perfect and has things to correct, but he has had all but absolutely zero help around him and nobody can deny that. (12-26-2021, 08:05 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:I think it depends on the staff and general manager. If Caldwell, McDaniels or Pederson can't fix him then nobody can. This year he got fed to the wolves and he was not prepared thanks to the lack of support from his coach and the controveries and drama circulating him.(12-26-2021, 07:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote: .Thats the million dollar question. Many have blind loyalty to Lawrence and just assume he is going to be the franchise QB. I am getting serious Joe Flacco vibes from Lawrence. This pass off-season is going to be a huge crossroads for Lawrence. Just like meyer, if he continues to struggle to hit easy passes it's time to admit the mistake and cur our losses just like Meyer. It would not be the first time the media hyped up a "can't miss" prospect only for him to fail in the NFL. Year two with him I expect to see consistency between getting rid of the ball timely, not running backwards when a play breaks down and better accuracy in the short passing game. The deep ball accuracy should improve with an actual deep threat. I think he's a fan of the TE's in the passing game. He liked Arnold before he got hurt. O'Shaughnessy was getting a ton of looks already when he got back. I think my patience with QBs is boiled down to two and a half years now. Can't let a guy hold you back and pass up on a good one. We saw that happen with Leftwich, Gabbert and Bortles. Year one? Hit or miss. Fine. Give you a pass. Year two? Better be finishing drives, protecting the football and making routine pitch and catch plays that keep you alive. Year three? Better be lighting it the [BLEEP] up by week eight, nine or I am already looking at your back up. At this point. I can't grade him fairly. High end? He's maybe Matt Ryan with a lot more athleticism. Low end? He's maybe Alex Smith that blooms later on down the road elsewhere. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (12-26-2021, 07:53 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:Man. You really have no idea what you’re talking about.(12-26-2021, 07:52 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: He threw a 40 yard TD that was dropped in the end zone today bruh. Open yours. That was a TD that was dropped. Not the one that was called for PI but the one that was literally dropped into the belly of the WR and he dropped it. You love to call people fan boys for defending a rookie QB who has had an uphill battle all season with the worst HC in NFL history and absolutely no playmakers. However, you can’t see good throws or good plays when they actually happen. When Trevor ends up being really good, do us all a favor and don’t post. Because I for sure won’t forget and will remind you…. Just like when Ronster boycotted. Loser. |
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