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2022 NFL draft order


(11-28-2021, 05:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Picking 2nd after today
Actually 3rd.
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(11-28-2021, 08:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-28-2021, 05:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Picking 2nd after today
Actually 3rd.

We have the tougher SOS and they beat us.  How does Houston pick before us?
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(11-28-2021, 08:44 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-28-2021, 08:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Actually 3rd.

We have the tougher SOS and they beat us.  How does Houston pick before us?
Head to head record is irrelevant.

And if you have an easier SOS, with the same losses, that means you’re worse.

https://twitter.com/_john_shipley/status...41634?s=21
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(11-28-2021, 08:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-28-2021, 08:44 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: We have the tougher SOS and they beat us.  How does Houston pick before us?
Head to head record is irrelevant.

And if you have an easier SOS, with the same losses, that means you’re worse.

https://twitter.com/_john_shipley/status...41634?s=21

That's right, we still play them so that might be the game the will end up for picking 2nd
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Below is how we stand with the draft order based upon our remaining games:

  • If we win 0 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #2.  We would need Detroit to win a game for us to be drafting #1.  Their remaining schedule is Arizona (10-2), Atlanta (6-7), Seattle (5-8) and Green Bay (9-3).
  • If we win 1 game, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #4.  However, that assumes our lone win is against the Jets.  If our lone win is against Houston, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #3.
  • If we win 2 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #5.
  • If we win 3 games, our drinking water should be checked because we're suffering from group hallucinations.

The bottom line is that we're picking in the top 5 again.  The most likely scenario is that the Houston/Jacksonville game next week decides who picks #2 and who picks #3.
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(12-12-2021, 11:41 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: Below is how we stand with the draft order based upon our remaining games:

  • If we win 0 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #2.  We would need Detroit to win a game for us to be drafting #1.  Their remaining schedule is Arizona (10-2), Atlanta (6-7), Seattle (5-8) and Green Bay (9-3).
  • If we win 1 game, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #4.  However, that assumes our lone win is against the Jets.  If our lone win is against Houston, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #3.
  • If we win 2 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #5.
  • If we win 3 games, our drinking water should be checked because we're suffering from group hallucinations.

The bottom line is that we're picking in the top 5 again.  The most likely scenario is that the Houston/Jacksonville game next week decides who picks #2 and who picks #3.

I know its not gonna happen, but if DET gets a second tie and we lose out, we go to tiebreakers as W-L pct is the same. Ties count as half game in W-L %, so 1-14-2 would be 2/17 wins/games played as would 2-15.

This is why ties are great! Break up monotony!
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(12-13-2021, 12:57 PM)Mikey Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 11:41 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: Below is how we stand with the draft order based upon our remaining games:

  • If we win 0 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #2.  We would need Detroit to win a game for us to be drafting #1.  Their remaining schedule is Arizona (10-2), Atlanta (6-7), Seattle (5-8) and Green Bay (9-3).
  • If we win 1 game, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #4.  However, that assumes our lone win is against the Jets.  If our lone win is against Houston, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #3.
  • If we win 2 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #5.
  • If we win 3 games, our drinking water should be checked because we're suffering from group hallucinations.

The bottom line is that we're picking in the top 5 again.  The most likely scenario is that the Houston/Jacksonville game next week decides who picks #2 and who picks #3.

I know its not gonna happen, but if DET gets a second tie and we lose out, we go to tiebreakers as W-L pct is the same. Ties count as half game in W-L %, so 1-14-2 would be 2/17 wins/games played as would 2-15.

This is why ties are great! Break up monotony!

Because Det would have fewer losses in your scenario, I think we would pick first. Based solely on losses. 14 for Det and 15 for us but I could definitely be wrong on that
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(12-13-2021, 01:31 PM)DTWD4∞ Wrote:
(12-13-2021, 12:57 PM)Mikey Wrote: I know its not gonna happen, but if DET gets a second tie and we lose out, we go to tiebreakers as W-L pct is the same. Ties count as half game in W-L %, so 1-14-2 would be 2/17 wins/games played as would 2-15.

This is why ties are great! Break up monotony!

Because Det would have fewer losses in your scenario, I think we would pick first. Based solely on losses. 14 for Det and 15 for us but I could definitely be wrong on that

1st or 2nd, it doesn't really matter. We'll still end up with one of the two elite edge rushers in this draft.
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(12-13-2021, 12:57 PM)Mikey Wrote:
(12-12-2021, 11:41 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: Below is how we stand with the draft order based upon our remaining games:

  • If we win 0 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #2.  We would need Detroit to win a game for us to be drafting #1.  Their remaining schedule is Arizona (10-2), Atlanta (6-7), Seattle (5-8) and Green Bay (9-3).
  • If we win 1 game, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #4.  However, that assumes our lone win is against the Jets.  If our lone win is against Houston, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #3.
  • If we win 2 games, we're guaranteed to be drafting at least #5.
  • If we win 3 games, our drinking water should be checked because we're suffering from group hallucinations.

The bottom line is that we're picking in the top 5 again.  The most likely scenario is that the Houston/Jacksonville game next week decides who picks #2 and who picks #3.

I know its not gonna happen, but if DET gets a second tie and we lose out, we go to tiebreakers as W-L pct is the same. Ties count as half game in W-L %, so 1-14-2 would be 2/17 wins/games played as would 2-15.

This is why ties are great! Break up monotony!

In these types of analyses, I usually don't bother to mention ties because they are so rare.  However, I believe you are correct.  If Jacksonville loses out and Detroit has a tie, we would be considered to have the same winning percentage.  The tie breaker would be strength of schedule.  Jacksonville has a worse strength of schedule, and it is significant enough that it is likely to hold.  Jacksonville would pick #1.
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The firing of Meyer should light a spark against Houston. I expect them to win this game, but lose the remainder of games. This would secure the 3rd pick in the draft. The new G.M. will have a tough choice if the two pass rushers are gone. Ideally, someone will want to trade up and the Jaguars can still land Jameson Williams and another high pick either in 2022 or 2023.
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(12-16-2021, 01:53 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: The firing of Meyer should light a spark against Houston. I expect them to win this game, but lose the remainder of games. This would secure the 3rd pick in the draft. The new G.M. will have a tough choice if the two pass rushers are gone. Ideally, someone will want to trade up and the Jaguars can still land Jameson Williams and another high pick either in 2022 or 2023.

I don't think it will be that hard of a decision.  I think the sprint to the podium for Neal
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(12-16-2021, 01:53 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: The firing of Meyer should light a spark against Houston. I expect them to win this game, but lose the remainder of games. This would secure the 3rd pick in the draft. The new G.M. will have a tough choice if the two pass rushers are gone. Ideally, someone will want to trade up and the Jaguars can still land Jameson Williams and another high pick either in 2022 or 2023.

Even if we couldn't trade down and both pass rushers were gone. I'd be thrilled to get Jameson Williams. He's the only player in the draft I'd even consider at #3.
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We currently hold the #1 pick in the draft.  Below is the updated status with our remaining schedule:

  • If the Jaguars win 0 games, we are guaranteed to have the #1 pick in the draft.
  • If the Jaguars win 1 game, we are guaranteed to be picking no later than #4.  Although it could change, at the moment, we have the best strength of schedule of the other teams which means we would pick 4th.  
  • If the Jaguars win 2 games, we are guaranteed to be picking no later than #5.
  • If the Jaguars win 3 games, we are dreaming.  Speaking hypothetically, the Jaguars mathematically can't be picking later than #8.

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(This post was last modified: 12-19-2021, 10:31 PM by Eric1. Edited 1 time in total.)

(12-19-2021, 09:34 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: We currently hold the #1 pick in the draft.  Below is the updated status with our remaining schedule:

  • If the Jaguars win 0 games, we are guaranteed to have the #1 pick in the draft.
  • If the Jaguars win 1 game, we are guaranteed to be picking no later than #4.  Although it could change, at the moment, we have the best strength of schedule of the other teams which means we would pick 4th.  
  • If the Jaguars win 2 games, we are guaranteed to be picking no later than #5.
  • If the Jaguars win 3 games, we are dreaming.  Speaking hypothetically, the Jaguars mathematically can't be picking later than #8.

We got the Jets next weekend (in Jersey) which could be a win. Could easily be a loss also, it'll definitely be a toss up game.

I don't see us beating the Pats (in New England), or Colts to finish out the season.
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(12-19-2021, 10:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(12-19-2021, 09:34 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: We currently hold the #1 pick in the draft.  Below is the updated status with our remaining schedule:

  • If the Jaguars win 0 games, we are guaranteed to have the #1 pick in the draft.
  • If the Jaguars win 1 game, we are guaranteed to be picking no later than #4.  Although it could change, at the moment, we have the best strength of schedule of the other teams which means we would pick 4th.  
  • If the Jaguars win 2 games, we are guaranteed to be picking no later than #5.
  • If the Jaguars win 3 games, we are dreaming.  Speaking hypothetically, the Jaguars mathematically can't be picking later than #8.

We got the Jets next weekend (in Jersey) which could be a win. Could easily be a loss also, it'll definitely be a toss up game.

I don't see us beating the Pats (in New England), or Colts to finish out the season.

How good would beating the pats be tho lol
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(12-19-2021, 10:34 PM)StrayaJag Wrote:
(12-19-2021, 10:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote: We got the Jets next weekend (in Jersey) which could be a win. Could easily be a loss also, it'll definitely be a toss up game.

I don't see us beating the Pats (in New England), or Colts to finish out the season.

How good would beating the pats be tho lol

Oh it'd be great, but Belichick has a history of making rookie QBs look embarrassing. We're going to get molly whopped.
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(12-19-2021, 09:34 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: We currently hold the #1 pick in the draft.  Below is the updated status with our remaining schedule:
  • If the Jaguars win 0 games, we are guaranteed to have the #1 pick in the draft.

At this point in time, this should be our goal.
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With our loss to Jets we clinch no worse than #6. Right now Jags have .013 lead in SOS over Giants which would gives us ##5, ibut we face 2 good teams and they face two bad ones, so that could flip.
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(12-26-2021, 07:54 PM)newporttom Wrote: With our loss to Jets we clinch no worse than #6.  Right now Jags have .013 lead in SOS over Giants which would gives us ##5, ibut we face 2 good teams and they face two bad ones, so that could flip.

The Bears and the Giants still need to play each other.  As such, the Jaguars mathematically can't be picking any worse than #5 overall.  To even be there, we would need to win both games.  If we win only 1 game, we are guaranteed no worse than #2.  If we win none, we are guaranteed to have the #1 pick.
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(This post was last modified: 12-27-2021, 11:14 AM by jessepeck1213. Edited 1 time in total.)

Pretty much locking in one of thibs or hutchinson was the most exciting part about today. Can't wait to have one of them lined up.across from Josh Allen next year.
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