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Lawrence Critique (merged)


(01-08-2022, 07:53 PM)RicoTx Wrote:
(01-08-2022, 07:45 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Oooooo you got me Rolleyes

Mac is accurate and can lob a pass into receivers hands

VS

Lawrence who throws every pass 300 mph.

I absolutely 'got you'.  If you're (notice) going to call somebody slow, have somewhat a grasp of the English language.  Dumb [BLEEP].

Wow that is so pathetic. Dude it's auto text on the phone and don't care about the difference between your and you're. At the end of the day you Lawrence nut huggers dodge facts and hurl insults.

I have numbers to show how bad Lawrence has been to prove my point.

You nut huggers have nothing but excuses and insults. Ok forest?
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(01-08-2022, 08:04 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-08-2022, 07:53 PM)RicoTx Wrote: I absolutely 'got you'.  If you're (notice) going to call somebody slow, have somewhat a grasp of the English language.  Dumb [BLEEP].

Wow that is so pathetic. Dude it's auto text on the phone and don't care about the difference between your and you're. At the end of the day you Lawrence nut huggers dodge facts and hurl insults.

I have numbers to show how bad Lawrence has been to prove my point.

You nut huggers have nothing but excuses and insults. Ok forest?

You seem to know a lot about nut-hugging.  Apparently you have a lot of experience.
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Lawrence has thrown just 10 touchdowns against 17 interceptions. ProFootballFocus grades him out as the 37th-best quarterbackin the league. His six yards per attempt rank 31st among qualified starters. His 58.9 completion percentage is 29th. He’s taken 31 sacks and fumbled five times. He’s second in the league in turnover-worthy plays, per PFF.
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(This post was last modified: 01-09-2022, 12:16 AM by SamusAranX. Edited 1 time in total.)

Dang, we shoulda kept Minshew


(01-08-2022, 11:24 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Lawrence has thrown just 10 touchdowns against 17 interceptions. ProFootballFocus grades him out as the 37th-best quarterbackin the league. His six yards per attempt rank 31st among qualified starters. His 58.9 completion percentage is 29th. He’s taken 31 sacks and fumbled five times. He’s second in the league in turnover-worthy plays, per PFF.
We get you think QB1 is a bust, or looks like one who never does enough good each game, and want to keep trying to prove you're right by posting everything you think supports your claim. The other side of the fence sees it too, as well as everything else around it and choose to see positive and what it means. Guess we have to see whose right at the end of the day; and with week 18 here, lets see what happens between now and next year.

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(01-09-2022, 12:05 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:
(01-08-2022, 11:24 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Lawrence has thrown just 10 touchdowns against 17 interceptions. ProFootballFocus grades him out as the 37th-best quarterbackin the league. His six yards per attempt rank 31st among qualified starters. His 58.9 completion percentage is 29th. He’s taken 31 sacks and fumbled five times. He’s second in the league in turnover-worthy plays, per PFF.
We get you think QB1 is a bust, or looks like one who never does enough good each game, and want to keep trying to prove you're right by posting everything you think supports your claim.  The other side of the fence sees it too, as well as everything else around it and choose to see positive and what it means.  Guess we have to see whose right at the end of the day; and with week 18 here, lets see what happens between now and next year. 

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I am not saying he can't turn it around. He has a massive mountain to climb but can be done. His mechanics need a ton of work.  Golf looked horrible for the rams,  Mcvay turned him around. 

I'm just pointing to this year Lawrence has been very bad at times this year. I'm like Morpheous from the Matrix and trying to free your mind. He may not be the answer and many need to entertain that thought. 

Lawrence has traits you love : Big/strong, Strong Arm, Athletic, tough, looks/talks like a franchise guy 

Lawrence has traits one hates : Short /medium /Long game accuracy is very bad. Absolutely no touch on the football, bad decision making, no growth this whole season.
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(01-09-2022, 12:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-09-2022, 12:05 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: We get you think QB1 is a bust, or looks like one who never does enough good each game, and want to keep trying to prove you're right by posting everything you think supports your claim.  The other side of the fence sees it too, as well as everything else around it and choose to see positive and what it means.  Guess we have to see whose right at the end of the day; and with week 18 here, lets see what happens between now and next year. 

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I am not saying he can't turn it around. He has a massive mountain to climb but can be done. His mechanics need a ton of work.  Golf looked horrible for the rams,  Mcvay turned him around. 

I'm just pointing to this year Lawrence has been very bad at times this year. I'm like Morpheous from the Matrix and trying to free your mind. He may not be the answer and many need to entertain that thought. 

Lawrence has traits you love : Big/strong, Strong Arm, Athletic, tough, looks/talks like a franchise guy 

Lawrence has traits one hates : Short /medium /Long game accuracy is very bad. Absolutely no touch on the football, bad decision making, no growth this whole season.

You are indeed a character from that film

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(This post was last modified: 01-09-2022, 01:37 PM by JagsFansince1995.)

(01-09-2022, 12:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-09-2022, 12:05 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: We get you think QB1 is a bust, or looks like one who never does enough good each game, and want to keep trying to prove you're right by posting everything you think supports your claim.  The other side of the fence sees it too, as well as everything else around it and choose to see positive and what it means.  Guess we have to see whose right at the end of the day; and with week 18 here, lets see what happens between now and next year. 

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I am not saying he can't turn it around. He has a massive mountain to climb but can be done. His mechanics need a ton of work.  Golf looked horrible for the rams,  Mcvay turned him around. 

I'm just pointing to this year Lawrence has been very bad at times this year. I'm like Morpheous from the Matrix and trying to free your mind. He may not be the answer and many need to entertain that thought. 

Lawrence has traits you love : Big/strong, Strong Arm, Athletic, tough, looks/talks like a franchise guy 

Lawrence has traits one hates : Short /medium /Long game accuracy is very bad. Absolutely no touch on the football, bad decision making, no growth this whole season.
I hear you. I will not include others with"my side" so apologies from previous post. All in all, i understand his issues and evaluate a 1st Yr QB on what good to great traits he has, and how bad are his bad ones an can they be fixed. I wouldnt even flirt with the term bust at all, without also evaluating everything around him and looking at what happens over the course of the year.

Yr 2....I look at what has changed around him as far as addition and any subtractions and how he performs under said new circumstances; and if he's grown and/or is growing more positive with less negative n so on till yr 3 while evaluating still. I do find humor in your way of showing optimism through more openly negative statements than positive tho. Only question would be, do you evaluate every player in the same manner or is this something special?

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(01-09-2022, 12:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-09-2022, 12:05 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: We get you think QB1 is a bust, or looks like one who never does enough good each game, and want to keep trying to prove you're right by posting everything you think supports your claim.  The other side of the fence sees it too, as well as everything else around it and choose to see positive and what it means.  Guess we have to see whose right at the end of the day; and with week 18 here, lets see what happens between now and next year. 

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I am not saying he can't turn it around. He has a massive mountain to climb but can be done. His mechanics need a ton of work.  Golf looked horrible for the rams,  Mcvay turned him around. 

I'm just pointing to this year Lawrence has been very bad at times this year. I'm like Morpheous from the Matrix and trying to free your mind. He may not be the answer and many need to entertain that thought. 

Lawrence has traits you love : Big/strong, Strong Arm, Athletic, tough, looks/talks like a franchise guy 

Lawrence has traits one hates : Short /medium /Long game accuracy is very bad. Absolutely no touch on the football, bad decision making, no growth this whole season.
For someone who is wrong plenty of times, you sure are smug.

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(01-09-2022, 12:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-09-2022, 12:05 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: We get you think QB1 is a bust, or looks like one who never does enough good each game, and want to keep trying to prove you're right by posting everything you think supports your claim.  The other side of the fence sees it too, as well as everything else around it and choose to see positive and what it means.  Guess we have to see whose right at the end of the day; and with week 18 here, lets see what happens between now and next year. 

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I am not saying he can't turn it around. He has a massive mountain to climb but can be done. His mechanics need a ton of work.  Golf looked horrible for the rams,  Mcvay turned him around. 

I'm just pointing to this year Lawrence has been very bad at times this year. I'm like Morpheous from the Matrix and trying to free your mind. He may not be the answer and many need to entertain that thought. 

Lawrence has traits you love : Big/strong, Strong Arm, Athletic, tough, looks/talks like a franchise guy 

Lawrence has traits one hates : Short /medium /Long game accuracy is very bad. Absolutely no touch on the football, bad decision making, no growth this whole season.

This post aged well lolololol


We saw today what Lawrence can do with good protection. He also finally got some decent play from his receivers. That said Shenault dropped a TD and Treadwell dropped a beautiful deep pass. Let’s get to work in the off-season


Lawrence far and away had his best game of the season today. He actually had a hand full of touch passes and was on the money most of the day. I don't know where this version of Lawrence has been but played fantastic today. It's great he ended the season on a high note but I am personally going to remain cautious.

As stated in another thread, juding Lawrence on this one game is equivalent of judging Baalke for the teams performance today.

The biggest positive I took from this is Lawrence had a complete game for 4 quarters. He was accurate and didn't turn the ball over. Lets hope we can see more from this version of Lawrence.
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(01-09-2022, 05:25 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: We saw today what Lawrence can do with good protection. He also finally got some decent play from his receivers. That said Shenault dropped a TD and Treadwell dropped a beautiful deep pass. Let’s get to work in the off-season
Yep! Build back better. The new motto.

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(01-09-2022, 05:25 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: We saw today what Lawrence can do with good protection. He also finally got some decent play from his receivers. That said Shenault dropped a TD and Treadwell dropped a beautiful deep pass. Let’s get to work in the off-season

Lawrence has 10 incomplete passes, at least half of them were bad drops.


Just imagine the stat line today if Treadwell catches that 50 yard bomb and shenault holds onto the touchdown.


(01-09-2022, 05:31 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Lawrence far and away had his best game of the season today. He actually had a hand full of touch passes and was on the money most of the day. I don't know where this version of Lawrence has been but played fantastic today. It's great he ended the season on a high note but I am personally going to remain cautious.

As stated in another thread, juding Lawrence on this one game is equivalent of judging Baalke for the teams performance today.

The biggest positive I took from this is Lawrence had a complete game for 4 quarters. He was accurate and didn't turn the ball over. Lets hope we can see more from this version of Lawrence.
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(01-09-2022, 05:32 PM)Newton Wrote: Just imagine the stat line today if Treadwell catches that 50 yard bomb and shenault holds onto the touchdown.

Shh… you’re destroying mvp’s personal crusade to claim Lawrence is a bust.

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Third and twelve on the first drive, I knew today was going to be different. Velocity, decisiveness and by far his most accurate game so far. So many times receivers got the ball in front of the #s so they could catch and run. The dropped pass by Treadwell was perfect. The td to Jones after the bad snap was special. If 16 is who we think he is them nothing else matters!


And Mac Jones just threw a terrible pick 6 hahahaha

BEST SUNDAY EVER


Jones will be exposed in the play offs




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