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Lawrence Critique (merged)

(This post was last modified: 01-11-2022, 07:09 AM by SeldomRite. Edited 1 time in total.)

(01-11-2022, 02:28 AM)Eric1 Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 12:30 AM)D6 Wrote: I came across the following tweet.

https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1480...40769?s=20

To add a little more context to this, here's the total Attempts for each of these QBs..

Brady - 719 (league leading)
Herbert - 672 (2nd)
Big Ben - 605 (6th)
Lawrence - 602 (7th)
Stafford - 601 (8th)

Lawrence had far and away the worst supporting cast out of all of these QBs and the worst in the league.

The QBs that were between the above in Attempts were Mahomes (3rd with 658), Allen (4th with 646) and Carr (5th with 626).

Which doesn't even account for all the times Trevor threw an "uncatchable" pass while the three stooges were running the wrong route, or just running directly into each other.

It's why anyone looking at just the stats (even the advanced metrics) didn't get any idea of how Trevor actually looked, and why so many people have the wrong idea about him.

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(01-11-2022, 07:06 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 02:28 AM)Eric1 Wrote: To add a little more context to this, here's the total Attempts for each of these QBs..

Brady - 719 (league leading)
Herbert - 672 (2nd)
Big Ben - 605 (6th)
Lawrence - 602 (7th)
Stafford - 601 (8th)

Lawrence had far and away the worst supporting cast out of all of these QBs and the worst in the league.

The QBs that were between the above in Attempts were Mahomes (3rd with 658), Allen (4th with 646) and Carr (5th with 626).

Which doesn't even account for all the times Trevor threw an "uncatchable" pass while the three stooges were running the wrong route, or just running directly into each other.

It's why anyone looking at just the stats (even the advanced metrics) didn't get any idea of how Trevor actually looked, and why so many people have the wrong idea about him.

Although he looked lost in a lot of games, and great in the last game, I don't think we can judge him at all yet, due to the lack of competence around him on and off the field.  

I am very very hopeful based on the Colts game, but I really think we have to wait for at least a couple of years to see how good he will become.  Assuming we surround him with good talented players.


(01-10-2022, 07:08 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-10-2022, 06:30 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: I didn't watch the game but that's the kind of throw I expect to see from a "generational talent" but not just once a season.

He had another great throw yesterday but don't remember which one.

Lawrence made a great play by the goal line. 

He got a botched snapped that went way too high,  He pulled it down, ran to the right and threw it to Marvin Jones who made a great catch,.

(01-10-2022, 05:57 PM)Doc Holliday904 Wrote:  

I’ve seen your post all season you were one of the few trolls on this board wanting to be the 1st to proclaim Lawrence a bust. I think you care more about being right than Lawrence being successful

Again making things up.   Lets say for sake of argument that were true,  has it been proven false?   Your lost little man fighting a losing argument.  Ignore list for another mindless troll.

eventually you will be left to talking to yourself. The way that you dismissed everything Trevor did to salvage a broken play tells everyone everything they need to know about you. The Doc is right, all you care about is being right in your premature diagnosis that he was horrendous.


(01-11-2022, 10:08 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(01-10-2022, 07:08 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Lawrence made a great play by the goal line. 

He got a botched snapped that went way too high,  He pulled it down, ran to the right and threw it to Marvin Jones who made a great catch,.


Again making things up.   Lets say for sake of argument that were true,  has it been proven false?   Your lost little man fighting a losing argument.  Ignore list for another mindless troll.

eventually you will be left to talking to yourself. The way that you dismissed everything Trevor did to salvage a broken play tells everyone everything they need to know about you. The Doc is right, all you care about is being right in your premature diagnosis that he was horrendous.

shame shame shame



(01-11-2022, 10:08 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(01-10-2022, 07:08 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Lawrence made a great play by the goal line. 

He got a botched snapped that went way too high,  He pulled it down, ran to the right and threw it to Marvin Jones who made a great catch,.


Again making things up.   Lets say for sake of argument that were true,  has it been proven false?   Your lost little man fighting a losing argument.  Ignore list for another mindless troll.

eventually you will be left to talking to yourself. The way that you dismissed everything Trevor did to salvage a broken play tells everyone everything they need to know about you. The Doc is right, all you care about is being right in your premature diagnosis that he was horrendous.

Yeah, dude really needs to check the mirror for the "mindless troll".
It's a brilliant plan though...  If and when Trevor turns it around and becomes the QB we all hope he will be, everyone that could potentially tell him he needs to eat his words will be on the block list, so he can continue to live in blissful ignorance.

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(01-11-2022, 01:41 PM)scottyg Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 10:08 AM)Mikey Wrote: eventually you will be left to talking to yourself. The way that you dismissed everything Trevor did to salvage a broken play tells everyone everything they need to know about you. The Doc is right, all you care about is being right in your premature diagnosis that he was horrendous.

Yeah, dude really needs to check the mirror for the "mindless troll".
It's a brilliant plan though...  If and when Trevor turns it around and becomes the QB we all hope he will be, everyone that could potentially tell him he needs to eat his words will be on the block list, so he can continue to live in blissful ignorance.
Another one. Lots of trolls. I rather Talk to a good few instead of a ton of idiots. Welcome to the idiot list troll
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(01-11-2022, 01:49 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:41 PM)scottyg Wrote: Yeah, dude really needs to check the mirror for the "mindless troll".
It's a brilliant plan though...  If and when Trevor turns it around and becomes the QB we all hope he will be, everyone that could potentially tell him he needs to eat his words will be on the block list, so he can continue to live in blissful ignorance.
Another one. Lots of trolls. I rather Talk to a good few instead of a ton of idiots. Welcome to the idiot list troll

Wow, you are so cool.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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(01-11-2022, 01:51 PM)RicoTx Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:49 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Another one. Lots of trolls. I rather Talk to a good few instead of a ton of idiots. Welcome to the idiot list troll

Wow, you are so cool.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
Another idiot who rarely has anything football related to say. Bye idiot
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(01-11-2022, 01:49 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:41 PM)scottyg Wrote: Yeah, dude really needs to check the mirror for the "mindless troll".
It's a brilliant plan though...  If and when Trevor turns it around and becomes the QB we all hope he will be, everyone that could potentially tell him he needs to eat his words will be on the block list, so he can continue to live in blissful ignorance.
Another one. Lots of trolls. I rather Talk to a good few instead of a ton of idiots. Welcome to the idiot list troll
OMG. I can't believe this is real!

Can a mod please check out how many people are on his ignore list?!

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(01-11-2022, 01:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:49 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Another one. Lots of trolls. I rather Talk to a good few instead of a ton of idiots. Welcome to the idiot list troll
OMG. I can't believe this is real!

Can a mod please check out how many people are on his ignore list?!

I'd look but I have you on ignore so I don't know what you said.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato



(01-11-2022, 01:52 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:51 PM)RicoTx Wrote: Wow, you are so cool.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
Another idiot who rarely has anything football related to say. Bye idiot

Another idiot who rarely has anything football related to say = somebody who doesn't agree with my slanted viewpoint so I'll stick my fingers in my ears and stamp my feet
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(01-11-2022, 01:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:49 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Another one. Lots of trolls. I rather Talk to a good few instead of a ton of idiots. Welcome to the idiot list troll
OMG. I can't believe this is real!

Can a mod please check out how many people are on his ignore list?!
I must be on ignore because he still hasnt told me the diff between the two colts games easy sample size. Just lawrence looked better. Nothing about the target to catch ratio being better even with 6 drops still, the defense playing better n getting turnovers, playcalling working an us playing with a lead, blocking was night and day, just nothing. All i see is trevor looked better. I wonder why although the rest of the team has little to nothing to do with his numbers in his opinion.

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(01-11-2022, 01:49 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:41 PM)scottyg Wrote: Yeah, dude really needs to check the mirror for the "mindless troll".
It's a brilliant plan though...  If and when Trevor turns it around and becomes the QB we all hope he will be, everyone that could potentially tell him he needs to eat his words will be on the block list, so he can continue to live in blissful ignorance.
Another one. Lots of trolls. I rather Talk to a good few instead of a ton of idiots. Welcome to the idiot list troll

Lol.

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(01-11-2022, 02:47 PM)RicoTx Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 01:52 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Another idiot who rarely has anything football related to say. Bye idiot

Another idiot who rarely has anything football related to say = somebody who doesn't agree with my slanted viewpoint so I'll stick my fingers in my ears and stamp my feet

Soooo, Stompy Feet? Asking for a friend  Cool


When mvp logs in: 


[Image: Hello-Anybody-out-therec880e99056daac5b.png]


[Image: dono-wall-talking-wall-bricks-gif-17741481]


(01-11-2022, 06:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: When mvp logs in: 


[Image: Hello-Anybody-out-therec880e99056daac5b.png]
Hahaha

Best post of 2022 so far.

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(This post was last modified: 01-11-2022, 09:49 PM by scottyg. Edited 1 time in total.)

(01-11-2022, 03:37 PM)DTWD4∞ Wrote:
(01-11-2022, 02:47 PM)RicoTx Wrote: Another idiot who rarely has anything football related to say = somebody who doesn't agree with my slanted viewpoint so I'll stick my fingers in my ears and stamp my feet

Soooo, Stompy Feet? Asking for a friend  Cool

Is your friend mvp?  You probably made the block list for making him read about stampy feet.
Unless you've already been blocked... then you're safe.

(01-11-2022, 06:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: When mvp logs in: 


[Image: Hello-Anybody-out-therec880e99056daac5b.png]

Any chance we can get a poll and officially vote mvp in as the message board king clown?


For anybody who wasn't able to watch the game on Sunday, here's every Trevor Lawrence play.

Just click the "Watch on Youtube" link down below.




(01-11-2022, 10:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: For anybody who wasn't able to watch the game on Sunday, here's every Trevor Lawrence play.

Just click the "Watch on Youtube" link down below.


That looks like perfect QB play to me.  Imagine if we manage to put a team around him.




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