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Lawrence Critique (merged)


(05-05-2022, 02:49 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: You know what else is going to be great? Not giving first team reps to a backup like Minshew. Lawrence getting every single first team rep is going to be so sweet.


Every team thinking about trading for Baker should trade for Gardner instead. Similar skills, except Minshew has a +10 personality.


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(05-05-2022, 05:17 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:
(05-05-2022, 02:49 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: You know what else is going to be great? Not giving first team reps to a backup like Minshew. Lawrence getting every single first team rep is going to be so sweet.


Every team thinking about trading for Baker should trade for Gardner instead. Similar skills, except Minshew has a +10 personality.


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(05-03-2022, 06:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://twitter.com/brickwallblitz/statu...6aw4IiL1_w

In for a big year boys.
Nice highlights in that thread. Should be a good year with him under Pederson's wing and play calling. Should see a lot of nickel and dime with the RPO and then a handful of splash plays down the seam. He has a [BLEEP] arm though. It's undeniable.

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They were asking on 1010XL today what everybody's stat line prediction was for Lawrence on the year. I am going with the below.

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Former NFL safety on Lawrence:

https://twitter.com/GAlexander21/status/..._FXL_tnRKw

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(This post was last modified: 05-11-2022, 02:45 PM by Cleatwood. Edited 1 time in total.)

https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/152...x4gY06DbUg

I could watch cut ups of these all day long.

His stats aren't great but the tape is the tape and he was way better than his stats.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/152...x4gY06DbUg

There are lots of plays like this. Just really poor design.



Top 25 under 25 List from PFF

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-top-25-play...nfl-season


I tell you what, Lawrence does have it. He has the leadership, the poise, and the physical tools to be special. He never cracked last year despite the circumstances. He was almost always throwing into tight windows under pressure. This year will be his year.

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(05-17-2022, 04:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Top 25 under 25 List from PFF

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-top-25-play...nfl-season
Really interesting that he made this list without having a great rookie year.


(05-17-2022, 05:34 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(05-17-2022, 04:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Top 25 under 25 List from PFF

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-top-25-play...nfl-season
Really interesting that he made this list without having a great rookie year.

Also 1 of only 2 QBs on the list.

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(05-17-2022, 04:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Top 25 under 25 List from PFF

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-top-25-play...nfl-season

This list disgust me because if I had been the jaguars GM 

Wirfs and Justin Jefferson woulda been on this team in place of Chaisson and Henderson. Metcalf woulda been on our team in place of Josh Allen (i'm sure some wouldn't agree with this, but I stand by it) Even if we did pass on him we coulda had him in the 2nd instead of that booty RT we got.

(05-18-2022, 03:45 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote:
(05-17-2022, 05:34 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Really interesting that he made this list without having a great rookie year.

Also 1 of only 2 QBs on the list.

I know people gonna just say i'm hating on mr Lawrence but.. how do they have him ahead of Devin White.. also why is Devin White that far down.. kinda weird to me.


(05-18-2022, 05:44 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(05-17-2022, 04:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Top 25 under 25 List from PFF

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-top-25-play...nfl-season

This list disgust me because if I had been the jaguars GM 

Wirfs and Justin Jefferson woulda been on this team in place of Chaisson and Henderson. Metcalf woulda been on our team in place of Josh Allen (i'm sure some wouldn't agree with this, but I stand by it) Even if we did pass on him we coulda had him in the 2nd instead of that booty RT we got.

(05-18-2022, 03:45 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Also 1 of only 2 QBs on the list.

I know people gonna just say i'm hating on mr Lawrence but.. how do they have him ahead of Devin White.. also why is Devin White that far down.. kinda weird to me.

Pff not a big fan of White either. 
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/devin-white/43089

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(05-17-2022, 04:21 PM)Newton Wrote: I tell you what, Lawrence does have it. He has the leadership, the poise, and the physical tools to be special. He never cracked last year despite the circumstances. He was almost always throwing into tight windows under pressure. This year will be his year.

I think you are right.  And I think most people see that, which is why most people are still very optimistic about him, in spite of his stats last year.  I also think last year was not entirely a waste for him.  He got to see NFL speed and NFL defenses for 17 games.  That makes a solid foundation for a big jump in production in 2022.


Interesting thread here on Lawrence's INTs happening primarily when in 'hero-ball" mode down big on the scoreboard.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/152...nh0x0Brltw


(05-25-2022, 12:33 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Interesting thread here on Lawrence's INTs happening primarily when in 'hero-ball" mode down big on the scoreboard.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/152...nh0x0Brltw
Love reading Nates twitter threads. He always does a great job of breaking things down.


(05-25-2022, 12:46 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(05-25-2022, 12:33 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Interesting thread here on Lawrence's INTs happening primarily when in 'hero-ball" mode down big on the scoreboard.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/152...nh0x0Brltw
Love reading Nates twitter threads. He always does a great job of breaking things down.

Perhaps, but he should have also presented Trevor's TD numbers when the Jags were behind as well.

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(05-25-2022, 01:21 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(05-25-2022, 12:46 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Love reading Nates twitter threads. He always does a great job of breaking things down.

Perhaps, but he should have also presented Trevor's TD numbers when the Jags were behind as well.

For what?

The people that are rooting against him will call them garbage time, anyway.

In the rare cases when the team wasn't imploding around him he played well for a rookie. Hopefully having a coach that isn't constantly amazed at how hard coaching in the NFL is will contribute even further to his success.


(05-25-2022, 01:21 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(05-25-2022, 12:46 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Love reading Nates twitter threads. He always does a great job of breaking things down.

Perhaps, but he should have also presented Trevor's TD numbers when the Jags were behind as well.

That's easy, it's just his total TDs number for the year.
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(05-25-2022, 01:21 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(05-25-2022, 12:46 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Love reading Nates twitter threads. He always does a great job of breaking things down.

Perhaps, but he should have also presented Trevor's TD numbers when the Jags were behind as well.
It's not "perhaps". He DOES do a good job of breaking down QBs.

It has nothing to do with his perception of Trevor. Watch his breakdowns of Herbert and even Lamar with Lamars runs.

Now on the topic of Trevor, he has done numerous Twitter threads breaking down Trevors excellent footwork and his ability to maneuver in the pocket at a young age.




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