I would love for someone to show me a QB that has over come the 30tn ranked oline, WRs who can't catch or run correct routes, a running back averaging 3.7 yards, a defense giving up 25+ points, and two injured legs.

Overcoming it is one thing. Looking competent is another. Don't conflate the two bro.

Nice word soup. Could have just said I don't have one.

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I would love for someone to show me a QB that has over come the 30tn ranked oline, WRs who can't catch or run correct routes, a running back averaging 3.7 yards, a defense giving up 25+ points, and two injured legs.

How is it that this team is doing these things in week [BLEEP] 16 man?

It's a coaching issue.  And stop pretending like Trevor overthrowing WRs or throwing bad INTs or fumbling every time someone breathes on him (or without being touched at all!) is someone else's fault.

The team sucks.  But Trevor absolutely sucks too.

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Well it is an opinion but it's informed by having seen both players play in their good times and their bad. I can't help that you have a hard time wrapping your head around it.

Best Bortles day > best TLaw day

Worst Bortles day = worst TLaw day

so now we dump Trevor, we dump Doug Pederson, cancel the stadium, move the team to London. 

we save ourselves $1 billion and further heartache.

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I would love for someone to show me a QB that has over come the 30tn ranked oline, WRs who can't catch or run correct routes, a running back averaging 3.7 yards, a defense giving up 25+ points, and two injured legs.

Overcoming it is one thing. Looking competent is another. Don't conflate the two bro.

Naw I think he has a point, Trevor just looks physically and mentally destroyed - hard to look sane or competent with this roster underperforming

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Lawrence is playing badly, but I think he can get things right again. We shouldn't have played him against the Ravens or Browns. Give him time to rest up and recover. We have a lot of work to do on both sides of the ball, though.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Tampa has yet to punt

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Agnew may be concussed.

NH3...

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"AZANE"

Damn. The halftime report from Bucky Brooks in the locker room...... it sounds pretty bad. It sounds downright awful. Sad Doug couldn't get the players to come together in a circle. Players lollygagging and not interested. So evidently Doug has lost the locker room.

Wow.  That happened so quickly. At 8-3, everyone loves Doug and a month later nobody loves Doug anymore? Hard to believe.

I don't know, a combination of things I think.

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Lol now anton hurt..’great

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Well it is an opinion but it's informed by having seen both players play in their good times and their bad. I can't help that you have a hard time wrapping your head around it.

Best Bortles day > best TLaw day

Worst Bortles day = worst TLaw day

I think you nailed it. But TLaw has more theoretical potential and throws a prettier ball. I wouldn't give up on him yet. I do still think he can be a franchise caliber QB with the right team around him.

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There's some rushing yards. And is that our last starting OL?

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The engram pick floated over his head, what was turning going to do

the angle of the turn. Ingram ran to the opposite corner instead of a skinny post to the FG.

Brother... The guys name is Engram.

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The offseason can’t get here fast enough for this team. I suspect that there’s some strife among the players in the locker room that needs to be addressed. 2 weeks in a row that the offense has been shut out at halftime and that’s a coaching problem. The defense allowing teams to run and score at will is also a coaching issue. Making luxury picks in the second and third rounds of last year’s draft have added to the problems this team is currently having.

They need a reset and an offseason of reflection on what kind of team they’re going to be moving forward.

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And the plot thickens.

NH3...

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"AZANE"

Harrison down. Geezus.

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And yet more injuries

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Get the golfcart??? Seriously, cursed gifts. Lawrence was a fool gifting those

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Sure he makes mistakes but I'm smart enough to realize when it isn't his fault unlike fans like you.... And I'm smart enough to realize when you have zero running game a poor offensive line and when the quarterback is trying to literally do everything himself he's going to make mistakes.... Are you trying to tell me he had time on that throw... that the offensive line doesn't completely suck

If you are smart enough to know when its his fault you should be aware he was 100% at fault for both ints and the fumble. But you are not that bright

So having one second to throw is his fault bawaaaha.... And if you watch it again He throws the ball It goes forward and then gets ricocheted back They called it a fumble It should have been an incomplete pass but the refs are horrible.... And do you know what the routes are what they should be running and what Trevor thinks they should be running I'm not taking the blame off of him I'm just realistic and not putting all the blame on him

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Best Bortles day > best TLaw day

Worst Bortles day = worst TLaw day

so now we dump Trevor, we dump Doug Pederson, cancel the stadium, move the team to London. 

we save ourselves $1 billion and further heartache.

Don't know what you're trying to project.

It's a simple observation comparing what we've seen from Bortles' career and Trevor's thus far.

This entire team has to be better, including Trevor.

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Overcoming it is one thing. Looking competent is another. Don't conflate the two bro.

Naw I think he has a point, Trevor just looks physically and mentally destroyed - hard to look sane or competent with this roster underperforming

Well the roster was underperforming in the Cleveland and Cincy games too and he looked pretty competent in those games. Concussion may be a big part of the issue.

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