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When Do the Jags Pick Up a Center


Quote:Hoping the rookie center will beat out Brewster - or Brewster seriously steps up his game.


The memories I have of him flailing at the guard position are haunting.


Is it really fair to down a guy who was obviously playing out of position? As others have mentioned Meester was a flop at Guard as well but he turned out to be a pretty good Center.
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(This post was last modified: 03-26-2014, 08:50 AM by Deacon.)

I read a report from the NFP on Notre Dame Guard Chris Watt that suggests that he may be better at Center due to him not being able to pull very well. I don't have a very high opinion of Greg Gabriel's write ups though, so I was wondering if anyone on here was a Golden Dome fan that has any first hand knowledge of the guy. Does Watt have the smarts to play Center or will the team need to rely on Beadles to assist with the calls?

 

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<p style="margin-left:40px;">"...Watt is a strong tough guy who overachieves. He has some athletic limitations, but he is a competitor who plays hard every down. The more I watch him, the more I feel his best position in the NFL may be at center. He has a center's frame and with his power, would match up well against the bigger nose tackles in the league
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Well Bradley did say Brewster was really working this offseason and you can see that he got bigger. Plus his natural position is center so I'm hoping he can surprise us this year.
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Quote:Well Bradley did say Brewster was really working this offseason and you can see that he got bigger. Plus his natural position is center so I'm hoping he can surprise us this year.
 

1010xl just replayed the interview and I caught something that wasn't reported the first time around.

 

Brewster and Joeckel are rehabbing together.  Tied at the hip, so to speak.  Gus suggested that they are working well together, pushing one another, which is the context behind his comment on Brewster gaining mass.  I like to hear this kind of story, teammates supporting and pushing one another to be better.

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Quote:1010xl just replayed the interview and I caught something that wasn't reported the first time around.


Brewster and Joeckel are rehabbing together. Tied at the hip, so to speak. Gus suggested that they are working well together, pushing one another, which is the context behind his comment on Brewster gaining mass. I like to hear this kind of story, teammates supporting and pushing one another to be better.


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Quote:Is it really fair to down a guy who was obviously playing out of position? As others have mentioned Meester was a flop at Guard as well but he turned out to be a pretty good Center.
I hope I'm being unfair. However  -  The reason I don't feel it's an "out of position thing"  is because Brewster was so frequently flatly overpowered playing guard. Just plain out-muscled. 

I don't see a shift to center changing that aspect of blocking.   Bradley said the other day that he "looks stronger."  He'll absolutely have to be if he's the starter. 

 

I don't often bash Jaguars players - and that's not my intention here. I just don't have much confidence in this one starting at center. Would love him to make my concerns appear foolish.

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Quote:I hope I'm being unfair. However  -  The reason I don't feel it's an "out of position thing"  is because Brewster was so frequently flatly overpowered playing guard. Just plain out-muscled. 

I don't see a shift to center changing that aspect of blocking.   Bradley said the other day that he "looks stronger."  He'll absolutely have to be if he's the starter. 

 

I don't often bash Jaguars players - and that's not my intention here. I just don't have much confidence in this one starting at center. Would love him to make my concerns appear foolish.
 

It is easy to have your view because Brewster was so highly touted, well as much as a UDFA could be.  I think if you reel in your expectations, and he gets bigger and stronger this year, then he has the smarts to be a good backup and swing guy on the line.

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Quote:It is easy to have your view because Brewster was so highly touted, well as much as a UDFA could be.  I think if you reel in your expectations, and he gets bigger and stronger this year, then he has the smarts to be a good backup and swing guy on the line.
True.  All of my comments on Brewster in this thread are in the context of him as a suggested starting center, though.  

 

He has also had two injuries since joining the Jags -  that certainly hasn't helped him acclimate to NFL standards. So... one more glimmer of hope for the kid. I'd love to see him succeed. Even if we draft a center that supplants him. 

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Quote:True.  All of my comments on Brewster in this thread are in the context of him as a suggested starting center, though.  

 

He has also had two injuries since joining the Jags -  that certainly hasn't helped him acclimate to NFL standards. So... one more glimmer of hope for the kid. I'd love to see him succeed. Even if we draft a center that supplants him. 
 

Not to dismiss Brewster, but I wouldn't rule out another veteran possibly beating him out, either.

 

Will Rackley, Matt Stankiewitch, Patrick Lewis, and Jacques McClendon are all veteran candidates at the position in addition to Brewster.

 

So, I wouldn't necessarily expect a rookie to win the job with as much veteran competition we already have at the position.  It will certainly have to be earned, that's for sure.  Let's just hope the best of the best emerge, and not the best of the worst.

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Quote:Not to dismiss Brewster, but I wouldn't rule out another veteran possibly beating him out, either.

 

Will Rackley, Matt Stankiewitch, Patrick Lewis, and Jacques McClendon are all veteran candidates at the position in addition to Brewster.

 

So, I wouldn't necessarily expect a rookie to win the job with as much veteran competition we already have at the position.  It will certainly have to be earned, that's for sure.  Let's just hope the best of the best emerge, and not the best of the worst.
Yes. I think I mentioned McClendon and Lewis earlier in the thread actually. I would have thought them more likely candidates, but  Bradley's comments at the owners meetings would suggest that Brewster has the holeshot. It is only March, after all - so much can change.

 

Center and right guard remain looming question marks.   

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Quote:Yes. I think I mentioned McClendon and Lewis earlier in the thread actually. I would have thought them more likely candidates, but  Bradley's comments at the owners meetings would suggest that Brewster has the holeshot. It is only March, after all - so much can change.

 

Center and right guard remain looming question marks.   
 

With the deep OT crop, I wouldn't be surprised or upset if we find a RT and move Paztor back in to RG.  I think we may find more talent there than in the interior in the draft.

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Quote:With the deep OT crop, I wouldn't be surprised or upset if we find a RT and move Paztor back in to RG. I think we may find more talent there than in the interior in the draft.
It's possible- but I doubt it. I think Pasztor deserves a good look at RT. He played notably better on the outside. Caldwell, Bradley and Pasztor all commented that he's better suited at tackle. Dude is 6'7". He's too top heavy to play guard and his length aids him at tackle.

If they upgrade him - fine- but I don't see him as an answer at guard.
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With 11 draft picks, I wouldnt be surprised if the team drafted a couple of interior offensive linemen.


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Quote:It is easy to have your view because Brewster was so highly touted, well as much as a UDFA could be.  I think if you reel in your expectations, and he gets bigger and stronger this year, then he has the smarts to be a good backup and swing guy on the line.
 

 

He sure was highly touted. By and large he was considered the top UDFA after the draft, and his falling undrafted was a shock to everyone. Many draftniks and draft sites had Brewster rated among the top few Centers with several projecting him to go as early as the start of round two. At Ohio State he was considered among his peers as one of the elite offensive linemen in the game, however, clearly NFL scouts realized his game needed some work. He fell harder than anyone expected, and we had a first-hand look since watching him struggle while out of position at LG. That said, he's had time to build mass and to improve his game, and this offseason he's working harder than ever to be a starting Center in the NFL. Bradley appears 100 percent behind Brewster so I think we all owe it to him to give him a look before dissing the man. 



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