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(This post was last modified: 05-31-2024, 10:05 AM by snarkyguy_he_him_his.)

(05-31-2024, 09:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: New polls come out next month.. I'm expecting a huge jump in support

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Anecdotal at best but when I had a memorial day celebration at my community pool and invited just one other couple (they are interracial, gasps, but since I'm a republican I should hate that) soon everyone was part of my ribs feast.. every black person there supported Trump over who they called an old racist [BLEEP] lol

(05-31-2024, 10:00 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 09:35 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: We need more of this. This isn't the time for tough talk. We need consensus building. We need overwhelming support at the ballot box this November. Build bridges, people. The establishment has got to go. Wake up, Marty. Wake up, Mikey.

For the love of everything decent, consider the level of conspiracy It took to orchestrate this conviction and extrapolate the possibilities. This is not We The People. This is an establishment that is doing everything in its power to keep hold of its power. We are seeing unprecedented abuse.

There is no conspiracy.  This is a New York legal system that even prior to 1776 was built on patronage.  That system is exacting its revenge on a man who infuriated its big city liberal voters and who refused to contribute to the campaigns of its politicians.

Now, should voter outrage be sufficient to bring criminal complaints? No. Should a celebrity be expected to contribute his way out of legal problems? No.  Both are corrupt.

However 

Trump is not actually fighting this corruption! He has proposed literally nothing to root it out. Even now.  Nothing.  US Congress has the power to "ensure a Republican form of government" in every state, and they could pass all sorts of laws to root out corruption in places like NY.  But that has never been discussed. Why not? Trump is only mad because he is the target.  He doesn't see this as a problem for anyone but him.  He doesn't care about you or anyone else.

Do you think anyone in politics cares about anyone other than themselves?

There's a reason they get rich only when they get into politics.
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The overreaction theater to this thing is hilarious. This stupid little case isn't breaking our country or any of our systems. It'll just make the right more dogged in trying to manufacture some charges against whichever leftist politician they can reasonably target. Buckle up for more attempts to prosecute Biden and random members of his family.

Why is anyone surprised in the slightest by this?

The orange clown has a history of fraudulent mis-dealings in his businesses going back decades. That's been public knowledge for a long, long time. So now that he has spent 8 years or so bashing the state of New York and its prosecutors in front of a hundred different microphones - why is anyone surprised that the state of NY handed him a very basic "law and order" pastrami sandwich? He set himself up for this in every imaginable way.

Literally the only twist in this thing of any note whatsoever is that they managed to get to "felony" with the election interference aspect of his clearcut and obvious crime of trying to hide the hush money payment.

Bit of a stretch there on the election interference even though it is accurate by basic definition, but I wholeheartedly applaud the effort to go after it even if overturned.

I hope this is merely a new precedent showing that our nation's justice systems, on every level, will hold these politicians' feet to the fire. I'm sick and tired of all these horrible candidates being shoved down our throats by a bunch of bought and sold idiots.

Left, Right, Independent - I don't give a damn. If they force a candidate on us that is even half the [BLEEP] show this clown is, I hope they all get this treatment.
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(05-31-2024, 10:05 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: The overreaction theater to this thing is hilarious.  This stupid little case isn't breaking our country or any of our systems. It'll just make the right more dogged in trying to manufacture some charges against whichever leftist politician they can reasonably target. Buckle up for more attempts to prosecute Biden and random members of his family. 

Why is anyone surprised in the slightest by this?

The orange clown has a history of fraudulent mis-dealings in his businesses going back decades.  That's been public knowledge for a long, long time. So now that he has spent 8 years or so bashing the state of New York and its prosecutors in front of a hundred different microphones - why is anyone surprised that the state of NY handed him a very basic "law and order" pastrami sandwich?  He set himself up for this in every imaginable way.

Literally the only twist in this thing of any note whatsoever is that they managed to get to "felony" with the election interference aspect of his clearcut and obvious crime of trying to hide the hush money payment.

Bit of a stretch there on the election interference even though it is accurate by basic definition, but I wholeheartedly applaud the effort to go after it even if overturned.

I hope this is merely a new precedent showing that our nation's justice systems, on every level, will hold these politicians' feet to the fire. I'm sick and tired of all these horrible candidates being shoved down our throats by a bunch of bought and sold idiots.

Left, Right, Independent - I don't give a damn. If they force a candidate on us that is even half the [BLEEP] show this clown is, I hope they all get this treatment.

Your opinion is [BLEEP] irrelevant until you admit the Bidens are just as if not moreso corrupt as the Trumps.

Your inability to place any blame on the left is just... let's be real.. stupid
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(05-31-2024, 10:07 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 10:05 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: The overreaction theater to this thing is hilarious.  This stupid little case isn't breaking our country or any of our systems. It'll just make the right more dogged in trying to manufacture some charges against whichever leftist politician they can reasonably target. Buckle up for more attempts to prosecute Biden and random members of his family. 

Why is anyone surprised in the slightest by this?

The orange clown has a history of fraudulent mis-dealings in his businesses going back decades.  That's been public knowledge for a long, long time. So now that he has spent 8 years or so bashing the state of New York and its prosecutors in front of a hundred different microphones - why is anyone surprised that the state of NY handed him a very basic "law and order" pastrami sandwich?  He set himself up for this in every imaginable way.

Literally the only twist in this thing of any note whatsoever is that they managed to get to "felony" with the election interference aspect of his clearcut and obvious crime of trying to hide the hush money payment.

Bit of a stretch there on the election interference even though it is accurate by basic definition, but I wholeheartedly applaud the effort to go after it even if overturned.

I hope this is merely a new precedent showing that our nation's justice systems, on every level, will hold these politicians' feet to the fire. I'm sick and tired of all these horrible candidates being shoved down our throats by a bunch of bought and sold idiots.

Left, Right, Independent - I don't give a damn. If they force a candidate on us that is even half the [BLEEP] show this clown is, I hope they all get this treatment.

Your opinion is [BLEEP] irrelevant until you admit the Bidens are just as if not moreso corrupt as the Trumps.

Your inability to place any blame on the left is just... let's be real.. stupid

Your inability to read and comprehend is special. I want them all rooted out if they are committing crimes. 
Do I need to define "ALL" for you? 

Have you not been conscious for the past four years while the Biden family has been the target of multiple investigations? I they find something real on him, get him out too. I'm almost tired of typing it, LOL. 

Sounds like you're too far down your own little special rabbit hole of conspiracy to have any relevant discourse. 
Common amongst your cult.  

Hey, but enjoy the whataboutisms.
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Can we halt this conversation while we wait idly by while Mike figures out who was killed on January 6th.
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(05-31-2024, 10:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Can we halt this conversation while we wait idly by while Mike figures out who was killed on January 6th.

NO

stop derailing the thread

There are 78 pages on this in the thread about it
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I think there's a few on here that's going to disappear into the woods after this election cycle lolol

We won't see em for a while and then they'll pop back up after 6 months with new antidepressant medication lolol
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(05-31-2024, 10:22 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: I think there's a few on here that's going to disappear into the woods after this election cycle lolol

We won't see em for a while and then they'll pop back up after 6 months with new antidepressant medication lolol

100%

Funny how they disappear so often
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(05-31-2024, 10:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Can we halt this conversation while we wait idly by while Mike figures out who was killed on January 6th.

He'll figure it out.. Might be a few years too late, could be never. Depends on what NPR reports lolol
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(05-31-2024, 10:22 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 10:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Can we halt this conversation while we wait idly by while Mike figures out who was killed on January 6th.

NO

stop derailing the thread

There are 78 pages on this in the thread about it

I was kidding. I have never met a liberal with any semblance of a sense of humor or common sense. Why are you guys wired so different?
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(05-31-2024, 10:25 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 10:22 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: NO

stop derailing the thread

There are 78 pages on this in the thread about it

I was kidding. I have never met a liberal with any semblance of a sense of humor or common sense. Why are you guys wired so different?

That's what happens when you lob off your penis

(05-31-2024, 10:27 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 10:22 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: I think there's a few on here that's going to disappear into the woods after this election cycle lolol

We won't see em for a while and then they'll pop back up after 6 months with new antidepressant medication lolol

I think, if one decides not to follow the news, and just goes about his life, plays golf, mows his lawn, watches the Jags, etc., he wouldn't notice much different no matter who wins the election.  I really think we'd all be a lot happier if we ignore the news media.

Very true, but also very little practiced.
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(05-31-2024, 09:49 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: This Trump conviction is exactly what we needed as a country. A reason to pull together with conviction to take our country back from corruption. I used to vote based purely based on policy. Now I vote Trump for his policies and to help give him retribution.

Lots of people will fry for this, and I got my popcorn ready!!

There's a reckoning coming lololol

That is my biggest fear.  Should Trump win will he go on a retribution tour?  Don’t get me wrong there needs to be justice but it has to be measured and done in a manner that unifies the common folk.  I fear that Trump does not have the temperament to unify.  His VP and AG would have to fulfill that role but his ego would not allow it to happen. 

On the other hand should Biden win it will embolden the establishment and you will see similar persecutions against anyone that speaks out against that establishment.

This country is in for a rough go the next coming decade, I just hope we can survive it.  Regardless the common folk are going to bear the brunt of it, but that is nothing new.
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(05-31-2024, 10:39 AM)copycat Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 09:49 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: This Trump conviction is exactly what we needed as a country. A reason to pull together with conviction to take our country back from corruption. I used to vote based purely based on policy. Now I vote Trump for his policies and to help give him retribution.

Lots of people will fry for this, and I got my popcorn ready!!

There's a reckoning coming lololol

That is my biggest fear.  Should Trump win will he go on a retribution tour?  Don’t get me wrong there needs to be justice but it has to be measured and done in a manner that unifies the common folk.  I fear that Trump does not have the temperament to unify.  His VP and AG would have to fulfill that role but his ego would not allow it to happen. 

On the other hand should Biden win it will embolden the establishment and you will see similar persecutions against anyone that speaks out against that establishment.

This country is in for a rough go the next coming decade, I just hope we can survive it.  Regardless the common folk are going to bear the brunt of it, but that is nothing new.

Trump actually proved himself to be pretty level headed during his Presidency for anyone who bothered to pay attention. I can't really see a retribution tour because I don't think the GOP has the spine for it.
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500,000 casualties in the Ukraine.. instigated by Obama, mitigated by Trump, exploded by Biden.

Silence from the left. Stop claiming to care about human life
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There's going to be a massive, massive red wave this year.

Wouldn't surprise me if Trump gets 85M or more in total votes this time around.

And the left can thank themselves for that. I have not seen this many independent voters speak out like this before.

The great blunder of 2020 will be the great redemption of 2024. Too many mistakes were made, Biden has lost the majority of his support.

Still feels like something else is potentially coming, because, some of the decisions that have been made by this administration borders on swan song like behavior.

Could be a major derailment coming up. Hear me now, believe me later. This is just the surface of their desperation we're witnessing.

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(05-31-2024, 10:52 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: 500,000 casualties in the Ukraine.. instigated by Obama, mitigated by Trump, exploded by Biden.

Silence from the left. Stop claiming to care about human life

Obama did not invade Ukraine.  Putin did.  

Maybe you think we should let Putin do whatever he wants to do.  Conquer and subjugate neighboring countries.  We've seen what happens when we sit back and allow that.  The perpetrator gets way too bold.  And then we have to take action to stop it.  And that's when American boys start dying by the hundreds of thousands.   No, it's better to stop it now, before it gets way out of control.
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(05-31-2024, 10:39 AM)copycat Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 09:49 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: This Trump conviction is exactly what we needed as a country. A reason to pull together with conviction to take our country back from corruption. I used to vote based purely based on policy. Now I vote Trump for his policies and to help give him retribution.

Lots of people will fry for this, and I got my popcorn ready!!

There's a reckoning coming lololol

That is my biggest fear.  Should Trump win will he go on a retribution tour?  Don’t get me wrong there needs to be justice but it has to be measured and done in a manner that unifies the common folk.  I fear that Trump does not have the temperament to unify.  His VP and AG would have to fulfill that role but his ego would not allow it to happen. 

On the other hand should Biden win it will embolden the establishment and you will see similar persecutions against anyone that speaks out against that establishment.

This country is in for a rough go the next coming decade, I just hope we can survive it.  Regardless the common folk are going to bear the brunt of it, but that is nothing new.

As far as I'm concerned, the libs and democrats spat on the Constitution and infringed on Trump's rights as an American.

I'm all for retribution.
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(05-31-2024, 10:58 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 10:52 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: 500,000 casualties in the Ukraine.. instigated by Obama, mitigated by Trump, exploded by Biden.

Silence from the left. Stop claiming to care about human life

Obama did not invade Ukraine.  Putin did.  

Maybe you think we should let Putin do whatever he wants to do.  Conquer and subjugate neighboring countries.  We've seen what happens when we sit back and allow that.  The perpetrator gets way too bold.  And then we have to take action to stop it.  And that's when American boys start dying by the hundreds of thousands.   No, it's better to stop it now, before it gets way out of control.

2014... did Obama instigate a coup that made Zelensky leader for life? In a country we promised Russia we wouldn't interfere with?

Then with an agreement on the table did the Obama administration FORCE Ukraine to say no?

To say that Putin unilaterally invaded Ukraine with no pretext is just disingenuous
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(05-31-2024, 10:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(05-31-2024, 10:39 AM)copycat Wrote: That is my biggest fear.  Should Trump win will he go on a retribution tour?  Don’t get me wrong there needs to be justice but it has to be measured and done in a manner that unifies the common folk.  I fear that Trump does not have the temperament to unify.  His VP and AG would have to fulfill that role but his ego would not allow it to happen. 

On the other hand should Biden win it will embolden the establishment and you will see similar persecutions against anyone that speaks out against that establishment.

This country is in for a rough go the next coming decade, I just hope we can survive it.  Regardless the common folk are going to bear the brunt of it, but that is nothing new.

As far as I'm concerned, the libs and democrats spat on the Constitution and infringed on Trump's rights as an American.

I'm all for retribution.
Agreed. [BLEEP] them. You asked for it. It's one thing to have a loud mouth and show bravado. It's another to create laws on the fly mid election year to [BLEEP] with someone.

I hope he rebuilds the economy with one hand and [BLEEP] drowns these [BLEEP] in court on a weekly basis with his other.

The amount of [BLEEP] that they went through to derail him is insane. It's all I needed to see the truth of it. Eight [BLEEP] years of a bloodlust witch hunt while failing to provide a viable candidate to consider on the left?

You lost me there. People are tired of the [BLEEP]. Sending out billions of dollars to corrupt countries to act as a front in the middle east and east to carry out the Globalist Expansion agenda instead of making it work like a true Diplomat.

People scraping by barely, lawless activities in major cities underfunded due to damaging rhetoric under falsehood's and then you have the balls to bus these illegals in, unvetted, unvaccinated and with better benefits than our veterans and tax payers receive?

Get. The. [BLEEP]. Out. Of. Here. With. That. Bull. [BLEEP].

Enough is enough.

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