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DEBATE -- Trump v Harris
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(09-11-2024, 07:27 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:(09-11-2024, 06:48 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: You may be right, but it's also justification for my very low opinion of Trump. Believe me, if the Republicans had nominated almost anyone else, I would not be voting for her. I think the debate exposed him for what he is, which is- not mentally qualified to be President of the United States, which, by the way, dozens of former high-ranking Trump staffers agree with, including many former cabinet members. Valid point, but there's no way I could give you such an example because I couldn't possibly be in the room when or if it happened. And I won't be in the room when Putin tells Trump he's the greatest President the US has ever had, and he's so handsome it's no wonder he beds so many women, and by the way, why not let me have Ukraine. This person you call an empty suit, and not smart, played him like a fiddle last night. You say she did that because she was groomed and coached, but if it's that easy to take this "empty suit" and "not smart" person and do that to him, what do you think a smart person would do? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
09-11-2024, 07:53 AM
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(09-11-2024, 07:44 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:(09-11-2024, 07:35 AM)mikesez Wrote: You post evidence that people saw them take geese from the park. Say that's true. They wouldn't go to jail for that. They would get a citation and get fined. The first response to that post alleges that the woman is not Haitian but was born in Ohio. And then there's this: Ohio woman facing charges after allegedly killing cat, eating in front of witnesses | Fox News
(09-11-2024, 07:53 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-11-2024, 07:44 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: So you want video of people eating our pets? Then it would most likely fall under their grocery bill being too high.
(09-11-2024, 07:57 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:(09-11-2024, 07:53 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: The first response to that post alleges that the woman is not Haitian but was born in Ohio. Not a Haitian. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
How people with a functioning brain saw the debate.
https://twitter.com/MaxEvansUMP/status/1...baqhQ&s=19
09-11-2024, 07:59 AM
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https://twitter.com/DanielTurnerPTF/stat...XehQg&s=19
Roll the tape... Kamala Harris: "There’s no question I’m in favor of banning fracking." Hundreds of thousands of Pennsylvanians would lose their jobs. #Debate2024
Pretty terrible debate all around. So many counter punches left out there because Trump just couldn't stop taking the weak bait from Harris and the moderators.
What people with a functioning brain came away with last night
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/...BTDZA&s=19 We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(09-11-2024, 08:01 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: What people with a functioning brain came away with last night I do wish debates would shift back to policy instead of spending the 2 minutes debunking lies.
This is also interesting.. So did ABC flat out lie about late term abortions?
https://x.com/CrossPolitic/status/183368...w9UvA&s=19 ![]()
(09-11-2024, 08:15 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: This is also interesting.. So did ABC flat out lie about late term abortions? Trump said Democrats support abortions after birth, and one of the moderators said there is no state in the country where killing a baby is legal after it is born. (09-11-2024, 06:48 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-11-2024, 06:41 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I didn’t watch the debate and in no way am I excusing Trump’s performance, but the Democrat’s own PR machine, the MSM, took part themselves in exposing Harris’s own deficiencies over the last 3 and a half years. If Trump loses this election, I have to think the GOP is done with the MAGA movement and goes through a makeover. Youngkin and DeSantis will be extremely popular in 2028. As someone who lives in Virginia, I really like Youngkin. 60% approval in a blue state. I've always said Trump should have made him his VP pick. He is kind of like Trump, I guess, in that he doesn't have a political background but he's very good at being a governor and leading. And if our economy continues to fall apart, why not choose someone who actually has a surplus in his state? I am like you...not a huge Trump guy but still I am voting for him because I think she is just a terrible candidate and is only going to make inflation and the economy worse. This country is in trouble if her and Walz end up in the WH. The only saving grace is the GOP wins the Senate and keeps a lot of her radical ideas from getting through. But I do not trust her on foreign policy at all. That's one area I do think Trump blew her away on last night. I wish like hell the ABC mods would have pressed her more on Afghanistan, but God forbid they do that. That was a 3-on-1 last night. I do hope they have another debate and it's on Fox. I think fair is fair. He's done two debates on liberal networks. It's only fair the other side does one on a more right-wing network. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(09-11-2024, 08:25 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-11-2024, 08:15 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: This is also interesting.. So did ABC flat out lie about late term abortions? Currently, no.. But let's not try to erase history to fit a narrative. Ralph Northam says hi..
09-11-2024, 08:32 AM
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(09-11-2024, 08:29 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:(09-11-2024, 08:25 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Trump said Democrats support abortions after birth, and one of the moderators said there is no state in the country where killing a baby is legal after it is born. Ralph Northam is a Democrat. He is not "Democrats." If you want to take one statement made by one person and act like it's the official position of the party, that can go either way. I'm sure a lot of Republicans have said things that most Republicans would disavow. But back to your original point that ABC was lying. What they said was that there is no state where it is legal to kill a baby after it is born. That statement is not a lie.
09-11-2024, 08:34 AM
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(09-11-2024, 08:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-11-2024, 08:29 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Currently, no.. But let's not try to erase history to fit a narrative. Ralph Northam says hi.. Once one goes off the cliff, the rest follow. That's proven. Especially as a Governor..
(09-11-2024, 08:34 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:(09-11-2024, 08:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Ralph Northam is a Democrat. He is not "Democrats." Like I said, you can dig up statements made by Republicans that the Republican Party would strongly disavow. I don't even know exactly what Northam said, but just because Northam says something, that does not make it the official position of the Democratic Party. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(09-11-2024, 08:36 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-11-2024, 08:34 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Once one goes off the cliff, the rest follow. That's proven. As a current Governor of a state, his opinion held no value?.. Is that what you're trying to pass off? (09-11-2024, 06:48 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(09-11-2024, 06:41 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I didn’t watch the debate and in no way am I excusing Trump’s performance, but the Democrat’s own PR machine, the MSM, took part themselves in exposing Harris’s own deficiencies over the last 3 and a half years. The President doesn't debate other people on an open stage. Phone calls and one-on-one meetings are in a completely different environment and decisions made in the Oval Office can be considered with the input and benefit of staff, advisers, etc. Trump is far from eloquent, but he can deliver a prepared speech reasonably well. In a debate, or Q & A session, he's terrible. He simply can't stop talking about himself and insulting others, which is his greatest flaw in my opinion. He could have, and should have, hit the ball out of the park on immigration and he got a weak single at best. Overall, neither candidate was smart enough to give a quick and concise answer to any question and stop there. Just because you have two minutes to respond doesn't mean it's in your best interest to do so, especially when it's a subject in your favor. Score the hit and get out and make your opponent play defense. If you make the point, then ramble on about some none-related issue, you're minimizing the impact of your own primary point.
When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.
Personally, I agree with kicking RvW down to the states and letting them decide. I used to be staunch on the subject, but now I don't believe in a "one size fits all" stance. I'm seeing more and more Republicans agree with this stance as well.
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