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Let's Talk About- Political Edition


(11-21-2024, 06:10 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-21-2024, 06:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.

Or keep your pants on.

Whatevs.

I want them to cut half a billion dollars a year from the federal budget.  And a lot more.  Our survival as a country depends on it.  

I just think it's awfully easy to say we're going to cut the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and Planned Parenthood.  Whoop de doo.  

They need to cut things that are much much larger and actually painful.  I doubt they have the courage to do that.  Time will tell.

Doge can't do what you are looking for, that will have to come from other areas.

Doge is limited in its power. They can only remove funding for things that Congress has not done their job on and left funding details up to others. They may not be able to even remove the money from the budget and therefore from the agency's account.

Doge will be making recommendations but Trump and/or Congress will have to act on the larger things.

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(This post was last modified: 11-22-2024, 08:08 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 3 times in total.)

(11-21-2024, 07:01 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: Are we really complaining that it’s not enough??? Is the expectation that they get rid of the national debt and anything less is a failure???

Apologies for the rather lengthy answer, but I spent my whole career dealing with money, and I've had a couple of cups of coffee, so here goes my usual rant about the national debt.   

No, we can't get rid of the national debt.  What we have to do is make it sustainable.  Which means keep it from spiraling out of control to the point where the interest payments are so large that have to print money to pay the bond holders.  At which point we have hyperinflation and we are all much much poorer than we are now.  

The current federal debt is $35 trillion.  The annual federal budget is about $7 trillion.  Annual interest payments are about $1 trillion.  Annual deficits are approaching $2 trillion.  

Collect $5 trillion, spend $7 trillion, including a trillion just for interest payments.  Do that every year, and see what happens.  

We have to bend the curve.  The country won't go bankrupt, because we can print the money to pay the interest on the debt.  But that will put so much new money into the system that we will have inflation like Venezuela or Zimbabwe.  Or the Weimar Republic, where they took their money to the grocery store in a wheelbarrow and took their food home in their pocket. 

So in answer to your specific question, yes, I am complaining that it's not enough to say you're going to cut $500 billion from federal expenditures, and then say for example we will cut the CPB.  $300,000,000/$2,000,000,000,000 = .00015.
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Wow two really knowledgeable and neutral tone posts in a row. Keep it up guys! Let's start a trend!
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(11-22-2024, 08:38 AM)mikesez Wrote: Wow two really knowledgeable and neutral tone posts in a row. Keep it up guys! Let's start a trend!

And you destroyed it..
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(11-22-2024, 08:38 AM)mikesez Wrote: Wow two really knowledgeable and neutral tone posts in a row. Keep it up guys! Let's start a trend!

Shut up hoser.
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(This post was last modified: 11-22-2024, 09:55 AM by WingerDinger. Edited 2 times in total.)

20 houses were skipped because of Trump signage..

https://twitter.com/DogRightGirl/status/...RgGyQ&s=19

People need to be held accountable

I'm willing to bet that there's more.
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(11-22-2024, 09:53 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: 20 houses were skipped because of Trump signage..

https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/185936...RgGyQ&s=19

People need to be held accountable

I'm willing to bet that there's more.

My understanding is that those FEMA employees were fired.
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(11-22-2024, 10:43 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-22-2024, 09:53 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: 20 houses were skipped because of Trump signage..

https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/185936...RgGyQ&s=19

People need to be held accountable

I'm willing to bet that there's more.

My understanding is that those FEMA employees were fired.

I'm willing to bet that tap root of evil runs deep..
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16 year old calls out school board

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...BBHlg&s=19
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(11-22-2024, 10:44 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(11-22-2024, 10:43 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: My understanding is that those FEMA employees were fired.

I'm willing to bet that tap root of evil runs deep..

It started with all the false rumors about FEMA after Hurricane Helene.  There were people walking around with guns, telling FEMA employees they didn't want them there. The FEMA employees in question claim were told to avoid hostile people, and they were avoiding hostile people, the bulk of whom just happened to be Trump supporters.   That's their side of the story.
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(11-22-2024, 11:06 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-22-2024, 10:44 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: I'm willing to bet that tap root of evil runs deep..

It started with all the false rumors about FEMA after Hurricane Helene.  There were people walking around with guns, telling FEMA employees they didn't want them there. The FEMA employees in question claim were told to avoid hostile people, and they were avoiding hostile people, the bulk of whom just happened to be Trump supporters.   That's their side of the story.

Funny how many homes didn’t withstand the hurricane, but so many of those Trump flags did.
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(11-22-2024, 11:15 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(11-22-2024, 11:06 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: It started with all the false rumors about FEMA after Hurricane Helene.  There were people walking around with guns, telling FEMA employees they didn't want them there. The FEMA employees in question claim were told to avoid hostile people, and they were avoiding hostile people, the bulk of whom just happened to be Trump supporters.   That's their side of the story.

Funny how many homes didn’t withstand the hurricane, but so many of those Trump flags did.

I would be kind of irritated if I was told by Fema to get aid I had to remove my Trump flag. Could that be the reason for the aggression? The truth is somewhere in the middle of all this. What is pretty clear someone in FEMA took advantage of an altercation to make a decision.
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(11-22-2024, 11:43 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: https://x.com/greg_price11/status/185998...EieDw&s=19

They were so desperate to hang that “convicted felon” sign around his neck, and it came back to bite them in the [BLEEP].

Political consultants and pollsters informed the Democrats during the race that using that label was working against them because it highlighted the law fare tactics being used against Trump. Now the conviction might be overturned. 

Americans shouldn’t be afraid of a Trump presidency. They should be horrified about how government was turned against citizens who disagreed with them, including a former president, during the last four years. Thankfully, many are realizing it now
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(11-22-2024, 11:56 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(11-22-2024, 11:43 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: https://x.com/greg_price11/status/185998...EieDw&s=19

They were so desperate to hang that “convicted felon” sign around his neck, and it came back to bite them in the [BLEEP].

Political consultants and pollsters informed the Democrats during the race that using that label was working against them because it highlighted the law fare tactics being used against Trump. Now the conviction might be overturned. 

Americans shouldn’t be afraid of a Trump presidency. They should be horrified about how government was turned against citizens who disagreed with them, including a former president, during the last four years. Thankfully, many are realizing it now

Highly agreed..

Lawfare was almost the downfall of this country. All they wanted was a mug shot to wave around on the campaign trail.. Thank God we saw right through that garbage.
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$25 million a year to lie to her viewers..

Damn Mark Cuban..

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/18...dj3dQ&s=19
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I think Morning Joe and Mika are on a short leash too..
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This is what we let our education system become.. This [BLEEP] needs to stop..

https://twitter.com/DeAngelisCorey/statu...xSyKw&s=19
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(11-22-2024, 12:36 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: I think Morning Joe and Mika are on a short leash too..

Follow the money
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How it started..

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