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2014 World Cup Discussion Thread


Quote:Yeah, that's what I was asking is about adding the time being normal. The US coach post game interview came across as if he thinks there are some signs of favoritism to the supposed teams that are predicted to do well.
Klinsman was referring to Germany and how they played a day before them, so they have an extra day of prep. They also had a much shorter distance to their next city and that the US is going from the hot amazon game on a long trip for next game.

 

Some of the media are jumping on him a bit for it, but he is 100% correct. FIFA's scheduling (among many, many, many, many, many x 1,000 other things is senseless). Teams that are going to play the last game on the same day should have the same amount of time to prepare for each other. It only makes sense in a tournament like this.

 

The media is also jumping him now, but he said some of the same exact things 3-4 weeks before the tournament started.

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Quote:Glass half full approach. Nice.
 

my predictions are rarely correct, so whatever I say will happen is less likely to happen

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Quote:my predictions are rarely correct, so whatever I say will happen is less likely to happen
That is good then :thumbsup:

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Quote:Yeah, that's what I was asking is about adding the time being normal. The US coach post game interview came across as if he thinks there are some signs of favoritism to the supposed teams that are predicted to do well.
 

it doesn't make sense for USA to not be one of those teams.  FIFA absolutely wants the US to do well.  TV ratings are much better if the US is playing.

 

So if any team would be shown favoritism, the US would be one of those teams.


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Quote:it doesn't make sense for USA to not be one of those teams.  FIFA absolutely wants the US to do well.  TV ratings are much better if the US is playing.

 

So if any team would be shown favoritism, the US would be one of those teams.
 

The US also would have brought in more money to host a World Cup, except they chose Qatar....because of bribes.  Money changes things with FIFA.

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I keep reading articles on various pages that if US and Germany made a deal to draw they would both advance, are they allowed to do that? seems pretty crappy if their allowed to just play kick ball back and forth and both advance.


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Quote:I keep reading articles on various pages that if US and Germany made a deal to draw they would both advance, are they allowed to do that? seems pretty crappy if their allowed to just play kick ball back and forth and both advance.
Allowed? No. Happen, pretty sure. Happened with West Germany and I want to say Austria in the 80's. WG scored in first 10 minutes and after that not one shot was taken. Both WG and Austria advanced.

 

That is when the group stage last game was switched to same time (or shortly there after)


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Quote:The US also would have brought in more money to host a World Cup, except they chose Qatar....because of bribes.  Money changes things with FIFA.
 

Middle East oil money > US corporate money

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Quote:Allowed? No. Happen, pretty sure. Happened with West Germany and I want to say Austria in the 80's. WG scored in first 10 minutes and after that not one shot was taken. Both WG and Austria advanced.

 

That is when the group stage last game was switched to same time (or shortly there after)
 

gotcha, was just curious if they where allowed to play for a draw, imagine it would be impossible to make a rule against it, unless they have a sudden death someone has to win situation? pretty stupid all the articles about both teams denying it in that case. Of course they would deny it.


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I'm just glad that elimination rounds are almost here. Play until there's a winner (OTs and penalty shootouts).


I understand group play there's not much sense in running each team into the ground, I guess. But, playing to "hold on" for a Draw and a point, is different than the urgency of pushing for the win. I can't wait.


Regarding the US, it's going to be tough to get a desired result over Germany. I don't really see any "wink-wink,, nod-nod" playing for a draw from theses sides. I could be wrong, but I just don't believe it.

IMO, Germany will look to get back into top form after their match with Ghana. Extra day rest, and having played in more favorable conditions certainly helps.

I hope I'm dead wrong, but I see most likely outcome is a US loss on Thursday. If not,, I'll be jumping and cheering in adulation. But, US fate will be greatly determined by Portugal/Ghana match. I hope it works out well.


BTW: someone compared that last Portuguese goal to the "USA having won a playoff spot, only to lose it back at the end to a Hail Mary."


Spot on, it was heartbreaking. I know the defense was terrible, but Bradley carelessly giving up possession for that had me upset at that moment. I told my friend, "he gave it up, watch out, here it comes." Had that bad feeling,, and it happened. Ugh.
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Quote:There probably is. FIFA is as corrupt as any organization in the world. 
 


Dude, FIFA is way more corrupt than that.

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Quote:Middle East oil money > US corporate money
Its been said that these 4 year big events like the world cup and the olympics acctually generate more debt than revenue... I was reading an article saying how most contries who fight to get these events are generaly new to the super power spot light and countries who have recent,y hosted events have withdrwn from any further events because of this.
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Quote:Its been said that these 4 year big events like the world cup and the olympics acctually generate more debt than revenue... I was reading an article saying how most contries who fight to get these events are generaly new to the super power spot light and countries who have recent,y hosted events have withdrwn from any further events because of this.


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Quote:Its been said that these 4 year big events like the world cup and the olympics acctually generate more debt than revenue... I was reading an article saying how most contries who fight to get these events are generaly new to the super power spot light and countries who have recent,y hosted events have withdrwn from any further events because of this.
 

It's why many countries now wont even put in to get an Olympics.   They have to build the athletes village so people can live in it for a few weeks, and then move on with no use for it.

 

Countries put millions into the events with arenas, stadiums, etc...with not enough return after the Olympics are over.

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Quote:Is that normal? The announcers acted like everybody does that when protecting a lead.
 

Yes it's normal, but the timing of it was too soon. You want to make the last substitution after the amount of extra time is announced, not before it. Although, the ref can allow the game to continue beyond the announced extra time to counter it, that usually doesn't happen.

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Quote:I'm just glad that elimination rounds are almost here. Play until there's a winner (OTs and penalty shootouts).


I understand group play there's not much sense in running each team into the ground, I guess. But, playing to "hold on" for a Draw and a point, is different than the urgency of pushing for the win. I can't wait.


Regarding the US, it's going to be tough to get a desired result over Germany. I don't really see any "wink-wink,, nod-nod" playing for a draw from theses sides. I could be wrong, but I just don't believe it.

IMO, Germany will look to get back into top form after their match with Ghana. Extra day rest, and having played in more favorable conditions certainly helps.

I hope I'm dead wrong, but I see most likely outcome is a US loss on Thursday. If not,, I'll be jumping and cheering in adulation. But, US fate will be greatly determined by Portugal/Ghana match. I hope it works out well.


BTW: someone compared that last Portuguese goal to the "USA having won a playoff spot, only to lose it back at the end to a Hail Mary."


Spot on, it was heartbreaking. I know the defense was terrible, but Bradley carelessly giving up possession for that had me upset at that moment. I told my friend, "he gave it up, watch out, here it comes." Had that bad feeling,, and it happened. Ugh.
I think you'd get even more teams looking for draws in group stages if you played to pk's there. The teams who are clearly outclassed know they have a shot if they can pack it in and defend and get to pk's.

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Well another match and another victory for the Dutch who were the first to qualify for the knock out stage and the first group winner.


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Quote:Well another match and another victory for the Dutch who were the first to qualify for the knock out stage and the first group winner.
There are others who are already qualified, first to win it, but first group to play all three games too, so.....

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Quote:Well another match and another victory for the Dutch who were the first to qualify for the knock out stage and the first group winner.
 

They should win it all.  France, Brazil and Germany are the only teams I think have a chance of challenging them for the title. 

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Quote:There are others who are already qualified, first to win it, but first group to play all three games too, so.....
And the Dutch qualified before them, at the same time as Chile did.

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