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Adrian Peterson indicted for child abuse
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Quote:As a product of a child who came from a mother and father who got whippin's as early as 6 years old, I learned early on how not to break the rules, and always tell the truth. You know people who leave marks and bruises on their 4 year old?
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:As a product of a child who came from a mother and father who got whippin's as early as 6 years old, I learned early on how not to break the rules, and always tell the truth. They 'spanked' them hard enough to leave "cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands."? As someone who didn't get "whippin's" I learned to not break rules and always tell the truth by methods of discipline that didn't involve inflicting physical harm on a child. Shocking, right?
Quote:They 'spanked' them hard enough to leave "cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands."? You and I both learned how to not break the rules by a method I like to call parenting. Whippings (not open palm spanking) are a product of a person's lack of parenting skills and in my opinion a simple way for simple people to cope with the stressors of raising a child. Sure it also has a result of being a punishment for poor behavior but at what cost to the child both mentally and emotionally. Ask a person why they give whippings to their kids and 9/10 times it because they got them growing up. Dumb reason. Quote:Ask a person why they give whippings to their kids and 9/10 times it because they got them growing up. Dumb reason. "I got whippings when I was a kid and it didn't do me any harm." Yeah, except for turning you into the sort of person who physically abuses children. Quote:Those pictures break my heart. I have a 5 year old daughter, and just cannot fathom having to spank her like that. A stern talking to is all she needs from me. Good post anchorman. I like it when people dig a little deeper. The kids youth just need a good ole fashion [BLEEP] whoopin' to be succesful!!! We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:1. What AP did was sick. No excuses for that.I agree until that persons crosses the line. Again what AP did wasn't parenting. It was abuse. Quote:As a product of a child who came from a mother and father who got whippin's as early as 6 years old, I learned early on how not to break the rules, and always tell the truth. That's great, but theres a difference between spanking and what AP did. You don't have to abuse your child to teach them how to not lie, be responsible, do their homework, not back talk, etc... as a society we should strive to be better. It isn't the only difference that he is a public figure. Anyone who took their kid in to the Dr would probably have child services called on them with the marks that were left on that 4 year old. Public eye or spotlight is bigger sure, but to pretend a regular person wouldn't be in deep [BLEEP] is being disingenuous. Quote:Yup. A pretty cooky bunch. There are cooky people in every single party. I've seen Republicans say some unbelievably repulsive things and Democrats act like their [BLEEP] don't stink and teach tolerance but don't always walk the walk. Granted this isn't everyone. Quote:"I got whippings when I was a kid and it didn't do me any harm." This excuse is just wrong on so many levels. My dad was an alcoholic growing up and I turned out fine... I guess that means I should be an alcoholic! We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:"I got whippings when I was a kid and it didn't do me any harm." Cycle of violence is a real thing.
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First, let me say that what AP did was wrong and sickening.
Second, I'd like to ask if you all disagree with spankings, too. I'm not asking if you give spankings or not, but rather do you find parents that do give spankings repulsive? Third, what about other sorts of "physical punishment". My dad use to quickly and harmlessly pull the tiny little hairs on the back of my neck if I was extremely out of line. There was really no lasting effects, but it sure got the point across. It reminds me of how Caeser Millan and his "Tsst!" routine. Quote:First, let me say that what AP did was wrong and sickening.I'm not a spanker, but if done appropriately and more importantly not out of anger, it can be effective. I think there are more effective ways then spanking, but I don't think it should be outlawed. That's pretty funny about your dad. I don't see anything wrong with that. There will always be some grey areas, but hard to make a case for Peterson. It seems pretty black and white to me (which you agree).
Quote:I'm not a spanker, but if done appropriately and more importantly not out of anger, it can be effective. I think there are more effective ways then spanking, but I don't think it should be outlawed. Yup, definitely agree. I'm not a parent yet, so my questions were actually sincere and not meant to be combative. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:First, let me say that what AP did was wrong and sickening. I don't have an issue with spanking but what Peterson did is abuse. No place in society for that. Even worse was he seemed to show no remorse for what he did. It's like he doesn't even know its wrong.
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Quote:I don't have an issue with spanking but what Peterson did is abuse. No place in society for that. I'm with you.
I got spanked as a kid and I spank my 3. As many above have said, theres a difference between an open handed swat on the bottom and full on beating. As my father and drill instructors both told me, "Pain retains". A sore [BLEEP] always helped me remember what I did wrong, and made me not want to do it again. Physically cutting the skin of a 4 year old though? Sickening...
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Our four year old became a huge handfull recently, so my wife and I developed a system of consequences. He has a chart that goes from purple to red. Purple means he gets a reward for good behavior, and red means he gets a consequence. The first of these is a spanking with a short, ornate wooden spoon. We never spank him hard (we can't get power behind it even if we wanted to), but the psychological effect usually does the trick. He goes to the corner if he continues to misbehave, followed by what we call "totem poles" where he stands up straight with his arms out beside him for five minutes.
Boy, it straightened him up quick! He doesn't fear us, and we have a protection against disciplining in anger. Spanking isn't bad--it's how it's used. AP definitely crossed the line. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:You know people who leave marks and bruises on their 4 year old? Yep, and I had marks on me. I didnt call Child services, because it was explained to me that to avoid future whippings, just be respectful, behave, and be honest. Quote:They 'spanked' them hard enough to leave "cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands."? No its not shocking. Some people learn from both physical and verbal discipline.
Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.
Quote:That's great, but theres a difference between spanking and what AP did. You don't have to abuse your child to teach them how to not lie, be responsible, do their homework, not back talk, etc... as a society we should strive to be better. People get called on for spanking their child in the rear one time as well. When I think of child abuse, I think of children's bones, limbs being broken along with being starved to death and sexually assaulted.
Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.
09-14-2014, 09:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-14-2014, 09:21 PM by The Eleventh Doctor.)
Quote:Yep, and I had marks on me. So is it alright if I take a switch to my wife if she starts acting up? I can leave as many marks on her as I wish, as long as I don't break any limbs or starve her to death?
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