If football was what I hungered for I'd keep concentrating on that and waiting for these guys to get fired so I can finally soar.

You're being ridiculous here. 

 

There's ONE QB in the entire league that dedicates himself to the extent you suggested earlier, and in the history of the league, that percentage is even smaller.  You have no idea what the level of intensity is or the desire he has to become a better player.  You're simply projecting in an effort to use this as another thing to bash Bortles over.  Nothing surprising coming from you.

 

All indications are that he is very dedicated to getting better.  The problem is that once he took over as the starter, the time he has to do anything other than prepare for the next game is extremely limited.  This is still a rookie QB learning the NFL game. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I do agree that blitz pickup and proper blocking assignments are the elephant in the room.  This is by far the biggest contributing factor as to why our offense is struggling.  Our linemen struggle enough as it is with 1 on 1 blocking, compounded by there always being a defender with a free run.

Agreed.  The problem here is that if you recognize there are multiple factors causing our offensive struggles, you're deemed an excuse maker.  Folks here need one target they can tar and feather. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Bradfield's play at RT was much worse than Joeckle's is currently at LT.  

 

However, Bradfield had a decent showing at LT last season for 5 or 6 games. Decent. Not good. So - one could make a flimsy case for keeping him, but I think his abysmal play at RT this year made that a tough call. 

 

My point is that saying the OL is the problem doesn't wash if it's better than last year's OL. 


 

If it's not better ... well Gus chose to start Joeckel at LT ahead of Bradley, he (or maybe Caldwell) chose to get rid of Nwaneri. With good coaching Pasztor should be better, at least since his finger healed. He's not. Bowanko may be a downgrade, but the Beadles/Bowanko combo has played better than Rackley/Meester (and Nwaneri could also play center). The OL is playing better than last year. The starting QB and WRs from the four wins last year are still on the team. The coaches chose to play rookies instead of them.


The failure of the offense is not the players.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

You're being ridiculous here. 

 

There's ONE QB in the entire league that dedicates himself to the extent you suggested earlier, and in the history of the league, that percentage is even smaller.  You have no idea what the level of intensity is or the desire he has to become a better player.  You're simply projecting in an effort to use this as another thing to bash Bortles over.  Nothing surprising coming from you.

 

All indications are that he is very dedicated to getting better.  The problem is that once he took over as the starter, the time he has to do anything other than prepare for the next game is extremely limited.  This is still a rookie QB learning the NFL game. 

Good thing we got a great HC and OC to help this rookie QB out....

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Good post by OP.  I do agree that there's a lot of issues happening and there isn't just one or two people to blame.  I think we need a new OC regardless, but things should be better next year with all of these guys having actual NFL experience.  Robinson will be back and maybe Blackmon.

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Good post by OP.  I do agree that there's a lot of issues happening and there isn't just one or two people to blame.  I think we need a new OC regardless, but things should be better next year with all of these guys having actual NFL experience.  Robinson will be back and maybe Blackmon.

The Jags motto....

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The Jags motto....

What happens when we are in the same spot next year? Will people say "next year?"

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My point is that saying the OL is the problem doesn't wash if it's better than last year's OL. 
It's been better than last year's line in 4 of the 11 games.  Not much difference.  And last year's line did a similar kiddie roller coaster thing by sucking - then playing OK - then sloping back down toward sucking again. 


 

If it's not better ... well Gus chose to start Joeckel at LT ahead of Bradley, he (or maybe Caldwell) chose to get rid of Nwaneri.


 

With good coaching Pasztor should be better, at least since his finger healed. He's not.
He broke his hand. Not his finger.  It's kind-of a big deal for someone that uses their hand to get  leverage under the pads of a 300 lb pass rusher.  Besides - even when healthy - solid, with flashes of good - was his ceiling. 


 

Bowanko may be a downgrade, but the Beadles/Bowanko combo has played better than Rackley/Meester (and Nwaneri could also play center). The OL is playing better than last year.  
Again - I think it's only been moderately better in a few games.  


 

The starting QB and WRs from the four wins last year are still on the team. The coaches chose to play rookies instead of them.


The failure of the offense is not the players. 
I think it's shared.  And I think youth and bad execution by players is mostly to blame. If you want to turn that toward Caldwell or Bradley that's fine.  It's hard to watch this much ineptitude by an offense - and I'm sure this isn't how they envisioned it when Caldwell committed to building through the draft. 

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The Jags motto....

If we didn't just get a new GM/HC last year and have a crap ton of rookies on our offense I'd agree, but we can't let different regime's failures make our patience go out the window.

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I've started to notice a pattern.   Opposing defenses just blitz, blitz, blitz.   And we can't do anything about it.    We have a rookie QB who is responsible for audibling at the LOS, a rookie C who is supposed to make the line calls, and rookie WRs who are supposed to break off their routes and make an adjustment when they are wide wide open because of a heavy blitz.  

 

Call it a lack of experience, or bad coaching, but I saw it time after time yesterday.  For example, on one play I think all 3 linebackers blitzed, and the corner was way off Marqise Lee, but instead of changing to a slant, as all experienced WRs would do, in which case no one would have been within 10 yards of him, be ran straight down the field where the CB was waiting to pick him up very easily.   So Blake got sacked.   He had nowhere to go with the ball.  

 

Call it inexperience, or bad coaching, or whatever, but our offensive line and running backs cannot pick up a blitz, our WRs cannot make sight adjustments, and our QB is left with nowhere to go with the ball.   Game after game.   Our opponents leave a single high safety, and they send 7 guys on a blitz.   And we cannot do anything about it. 

 

The coaches and the players better figure this out or we'll not win another game for the rest of this decade.

@ryanohalloran: Colts blitzed Bortles on 17 of 31 drop-backs (54.8 percent) -- highest percentage by #Jaguars opponent this year.

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@ryanohalloran: Colts blitzed Bortles on 17 of 31 drop-backs (54.8 percent) -- highest percentage by #Jaguars opponent this year.

To me, this is on the coaching staff. 

 

Rookie QBs are going to get blitzed a ton.  They should have done something to combat that. 

 

I was extremely disappointed in this coaching staff for the Colts game.  So much so I am on the verge of changing my mind on Gus Bradley and I have been one of his biggest supporters. 

 

Why do I get the feeling this week against the Giants they are going to blitz a ton and nothing will be done about it. 

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What happens when we are in the same spot next year? Will people say "next year?"

You will see FBT spewing the same excuses, just phrased a little differently.  

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To me, this is on the coaching staff. 

 

Rookie QBs are going to get blitzed a ton.  They should have done something to combat that. 

 

I was extremely disappointed in this coaching staff for the Colts game.  So much so I am on the verge of changing my mind on Gus Bradley and I have been one of his biggest supporters. 

 

Why do I get the feeling this week against the Giants they are going to blitz a ton and nothing will be done about it. 

The coaching staff is either incapable or refuses to make halftime adjustments.  They didn't make any adjustments after the bye week, why would they make any changes now?  

 

Keep doing the same thing week after week and you end up with the same result - three straight 1-9 records. 

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To me, this is on the coaching staff. 

 

Rookie QBs are going to get blitzed a ton.  They should have done something to combat that. 

 

I was extremely disappointed in this coaching staff for the Colts game.  So much so I am on the verge of changing my mind on Gus Bradley and I have been one of his biggest supporters. 

 

Why do I get the feeling this week against the Giants they are going to blitz a ton and nothing will be done about it.

I'm right there with you Trunt. Two weeks to prepare for what is ultimately a middle of the road defense. And we can't even protect long enough to throw the ball 10 yards?


I don't know the reason for this, but I do know no other offense I've seen looks like we do right now.

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To me, this is on the coaching staff. 

 

Rookie QBs are going to get blitzed a ton.  They should have done something to combat that. 

 

I was extremely disappointed in this coaching staff for the Colts game.  So much so I am on the verge of changing my mind on Gus Bradley and I have been one of his biggest supporters. 

 

Why do I get the feeling this week against the Giants they are going to blitz a ton and nothing will be done about it. 

Screen plays a draws are pretty much what the OC can call to combat a pass rush but people hate that.

 

A team doesn't blitz the same way every play. Different players coming with different stunts.

 

The line and the RB have to be on the same page to give proper protection. The QB and receivers have to see the same things correctly in order to attack the defense and make them pay for blitzing. If any of these players make a mistake then it falls apart and looks ugly.

 

The only way to get all the players on the same page is experience. They have to face these situations before the can learn how to react to them.

 

The way the colts blitzed them got ugly, but in reality seeing those plays are the fastest way for them to learn how to respond to those plays.

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Screen plays a draws are pretty much what the OC can call to combat a pass rush but people hate that.

 

A team doesn't blitz the same way every play. Different players coming with different stunts.

 

The line and the RB have to be on the same page to give proper protection. The QB and receivers have to see the same things correctly in order to attack the defense and make them pay for blitzing. If any of these players make a mistake then it falls apart and looks ugly.

 

The only way to get all the players on the same page is experience. They have to face these situations before the can learn how to react to them.

 

The way the colts blitzed them got ugly, but in reality seeing those plays are the fastest way for them to learn how to respond to those plays.

 

We can only hope you are right.  Because if that is not the case, we have yet another bad situation on our hands and years more of rebuilding. 

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In most cases, the differences in the game from the college to the pro levels impact QBs and WRs far more than the transition does in other areas. 

 

In college, many of these WRs thrive because of sheer athletic ability because they're better athletes than the guy on the other side of the line in many instances.  That's not the same in the NFL where the guy on the other side of the ball may be equally or even more athletic.  Then it comes down to nuance and making the necessary adjustments.  Rookie receivers tend to struggle more often than not, and this is where you tend to see difficulty.  It's a pretty significant learning curve, especially when you're looking at far more complex playbooks than they've seen in college.  

Exactly.

 

This is why a guy like Reggie Wayne can only put up 27 receptions in his rookie year, despite coming from a college with a history of producing NFL caliber WRs, playing with Peyton Manning, opposite Marvin Harrison.

 

This is why a guy like Victor Cruz, could go from ZERO receptions in his rookie year, to 82 in his second year.

 

This is how Cecil Shorts can go from 2 receptions in his rookie year to 55 his second year desite going from David Garrard to Blaine Gabbert at QB.

 

Larry Fitzgerald is known as a great WR.  For a while, he was considered one of the best two or three WRs in the game.  But the lowest output of his career (58 catches 780 yards *TDs), despite starting all sixteen games, was his rookie year.

 

The man known as Megatron is quite possibly the best and most feared WR in football today.  Think a bigger Randy moss but without the attitude.  His lowest career output occurred in his rookie year.

 

NFL history is replete with receivers who struggled to make the adjustment to the pro game in their early years.  The evidence is there.  I don't see why people miss the point so often.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

I'm right there with you Trunt. Two weeks to prepare for what is ultimately a middle of the road defense. And we can't even protect long enough to throw the ball 10 yards?


I don't know the reason for this, but I do know no other offense I've seen looks like we do right now.

 

The disturbing part is the Jaguars inability in spite of dealing with the rush and pocket presence are Bortles strongest traits.

 

The o-line has been abysmal as has the scheming. Watching Lageman's film segment last night it was disturbing to repeatedly see two offensive linemen blocking one defender while blitzers came free up the middle.

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The decision to teach the QB to avoid mistakes and not check out of plays was a turning point.

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

What happens when we are in the same spot next year? Will people say "next year?"

No. Next year is the deadline. I expect some major action in the offseason in terms of FA acquisitions, another solid draft and continued development of our current roster.


If that isn't enough for us to start winning games next year, then everyone will be calling for heads.

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