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What do you expect out of Bortles?
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What I'd like to see from Bortles this year (assuming no major injuries, and no missed playing time):
3400 yards 20 TDs Under 16 INTs
I was wrong about Trent Baalke.
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My expectation is to improve mechanics. Improve deep ball connects consistently and accuracy overall. Improve reads and blitz identifications.
Statistically, I would expect something around 26 TD's 3800 yards 61% completion 7 ypa 8-12 ints I feel most of his trouble came from the team as a whole being too young rather than just his ability alone. I think his natural progression coupled with the progression of the other young players will have an exponential increase on his production. Plus with the additions on offense such as Thomas and Parnell should improve 2 spots better than anything we've have in the last 15 years. The line gave up 70 sacks last year. If we can get that number down to 35-40 which is still too to high but a dramatic decrease from what we gave up last year; i think we can compete offensively much more often. On thing I do expect to see from Bortles is to run the ball much more this year as well. A have no problem with him relying on his athletic ability to help him succeed in his young career. Even Rodger being 31 will still tuck and run. His mobility is a major part of his game and I expect him to incorporate that more into his playing style to help him succeed.
I expect Bortles to cut back on the INTs. That's first and foremost. Realistically, with him and the same receivers heading into year two with a new coordinator already bothers me a bit. Caldwell is going to have to find a RB in this year's draft, possibly two as I am not sold on Robinson yet. Otherwise he's going to struggle again. Pass protection should be better. I think that's a given. But I expect Bortles to finish with a 2:1 TD/INT ratio, maybe close out the year with 20 passing TD's on the dot. Flirt with 3800 - 4100 yards passing to be completely honest as well in that department. I still think he's going to run a bit here and there. Probably get 300 or more yards on the ground. Few TD's.
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Quote:28Lol. So playoffs then? You're going to be disappointed. Bottles will get a few hundred rushing yards which will come off the passing total that u expect. He will be vastly improved, but still... We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
If you scroll down 11 threads below this you will see a Bortles expectation thread! Smh! But we should expect 20td and 10 ints imo at min..
Well I think 2:1 TD:INT has no chance of happening, so I will give my realistic improvement:
1.5:1 TD:INT - this would be a pretty big leap from a guy who had way more INT than TD last year (17:11 is above a 1.5 INT:1 TD Ratio). Less Pick 6's- below 2 would be good for the season IMO 20 TD's - I think in a pass oriented league and with our weak sauce rushing game this is a more than reasonable expectation. 60%+ completion - He was doing this easily early on, but then his completion percentage took a nose dive the last 8 games. 3600 + Yards 6.8 + YPA (he was down to 6.12 YPA last year, that's getting dangerously close to Gabbert level (i.e. <6) So here is my goals summarized Thrilled level: 20:13 TD:INT ratio, 60%+ completion, 6.8+ YPA, 3600 yards. Satisfied/okay level: Anything over 3000 yards with a positive TD:INT ratio and a higher completion percentage. Worried/need to move on: Similar or worse performance to last year Blake didn't set the bar too high last season, so I see no reason he can't have improvement pretty easily. He is thankfully, a much better prospect than Gabbert, but I will not anoint him the franchise savior till he does a whole lot better than last year. Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster The Home Hypnotist! Media on the Brain Link! Quote:Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.
Looking for 3400 yards, 23 TDs and 17 picks.
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03-29-2015, 10:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-29-2015, 11:00 AM by jagfanthrutherottenyears.)
Just for comparison:
Age GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT Sacks Sacks per GP 23 Carr 16 348 599 58.1 3270 5.46 21 77 12 4 76.6 24 1.5 22 Bortles 14 280 475 58.9 2908 6.12 11 63 17 4 69.5 55 3.93 22 Bridgewater 13 259 402 64.4 2919 7.26 14 87 12 3 85.2 39 3 The Jags O-line was the worst in league in pass protection last year by far. They gave up the most sacks at 71, with Washington in second place at 58. That's 13 more sacks than the second worst line, which is just under 1 extra sack per game. Minnesota was 5th with 51 sacks given up and Oakland was 27th with 28 sacks given up. By comparison, Gabbert was sacked 40 times his rookie year (2011 in 15 games for 2.67 sacks per game) and Henne/Gabbert combined for 50 sacks over the entire season in 2012.
“It just shows what kind of team we are. We’re a tough team. We like contact. We’re very physical. We want the issue to be brought to us so we can show people we can stand up to it and overcome it. Seeing that’s just a symbol of our team and who we are.” - Jaguars DT Malik Jackson
To be fair, Bortles didn't take all 71 sacks. He did take most of them though, and it was hard to watch. Pretty upsetting to me that Dave and Gus didn't stick to their guns and play henne all year, especially since Bortles took a beating AND the OC was fired at the end.
Hopefully the experience will help Blake, but we damn near David Carr'd him last year I thought.
Quote:To be fair, Bortles didn't take all 71 sacks. He did take most of them though, and it was hard to watch. Pretty upsetting to me that Dave and Gus didn't stick to their guns and play henne all year, especially since Bortles took a beating AND the OC was fired at the end. I didn't say he took all 71. In my post, it actually says he took 55, which is almost 1 sack per game more than Bridgewater and 2.5 sacks per game more than Carr. I just don't think all the handwringing over Bortles is timely yet, especially given the record-setting horribleness of our o-line. If Bortles doesn't really improve, then this time next year, I'll join line for the Modis Semi-Monthly Leap.
“It just shows what kind of team we are. We’re a tough team. We like contact. We’re very physical. We want the issue to be brought to us so we can show people we can stand up to it and overcome it. Seeing that’s just a symbol of our team and who we are.” - Jaguars DT Malik Jackson
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<p class="" style="font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Rooster, on 28 Mar 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:<a class="" href='http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?app=forums&module=forums§ion=findpost&pid=461550'>
![]() Quote:I think it depends on the line more than it depends on Bortles. He has the talent to do big things but not if he's on his back 60 times a game. If the receivers stay healthy (which they didn't do last year) with the addition of Julius Thomas I think 20+ TDs should be expected. But I really think it comes down to the line's ability to protect Bortles more than anything else. You watch playoff games and the top QBs have all day to figure out what they want to do with the ball."This is key. Without the offensive line doing a good job, I would expect much of the same. I believe Bortles has the ability to be a great quarterback in the NFL. The real question should be what are the expectations for the offensive line. Honestly I was hoping that we would have pickled up at least 1 more quality OL in free agency. I'm not sure that we have adequately addressed the need there, and what is the strategy of the draft, if we are going to go after a lineman. If the current regime doesn't significantly improve as a whole, we will still be in the bottom 5 teams record-wise at the end of the season. " I have to roll with these two opinions. I think he has the 'X' factor that we've been missing in our quarterbacks since Brunell, but he also has the issues with his mechanics. I think that a lot of that problem would be solved with better play from our o-line. He does have a little experience under his belt now, along with our receiver corps. The addition of Julius Thomas will hopefully add a dimension to the offensive attack that has been all but missing for years now. Still... so much of our hope for BB2 rides with the improvement of our o-line, and I'm another one who isn't positive that the need there has been adequately addressed during the off season. Considering that careers are at stake, I would've thought that the o-line would be the absolute top priority. One things for certain; there will be no more excuses if our offensive LT gets pushed around again this season.
I y'ams who I y'ams and thats all I y'ams...
Quote:If you scroll down 11 threads below this you will see a Bortles expectation thread! Smh! But we should expect 20td and 10 ints imo at min..If you bothered to read the thread you are referring to, you would know that there is very little discussion in it about Bortles.
Quote:I expect 27 TDs, 15 interceptions, 3,745 PYDS, And 3 rushing touchdowns. What does the "P" stand for?
I survived the Gus Bradley Error.
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Better decision making. Become the dynamic guy he was when he first came in for Henne last year, but with less TOs
Quote:That's a poor excuse. The Jags have had plenty of garbage time over the years and still never had a guy throw for 21 TDs.That's not a poor excuse, it's a stupid comment. But he's the same idiot that said Khalil Mack wasn't good. Bortles had plenty of garbage time and still flamed out. If this guy can't throw for over 20 touchdowns this season then he's a problem. People make excuses for him but any other quarterback is supposed to make everyone around him better except for a #3 picked quarterback in the draft who's in his 2nd year. That goes for the line, receivers, and tight ends. I hope Bortles kills it because he comes from UCF but I'm not going in expecting nothing until he does it. |
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